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New Harry Potter TV adaptation: What details are you hoping get included?

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SirSamVimesCityWatch · 14/04/2023 17:07

Things that weren't in the film adaptations, either due to technology not being available to show it on film, budget, or cutting due to run time.

Little detail: in the Philosopher's Stone, one of the ways the Hogwarts letters are delivered to the Dursley house is rolled up inside a dozen eggs, passed through the window to Aunt Petunia (as the door is already nailed shut). I would love to see Aunt Petunia cracking open eggs and finding a Hogwarts letter inside each one.

Big detail: The whole scene in which the Weasley family attempt to come get Harry from Privet Drive ahead of the Quidditch World Cup, by connecting their fireplace to the Floo network, then can't get out as it's an electric fire, end up blasting half the living room apart and Fred & George "accidentally" let Dudley eat a Ton Tongue Toffee.

What's yours? One big detail and one little detail allowed each!

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FearlessSwiftie · 18/05/2023 11:18

As much as I love the existing movies, I could do a smartshow 3d presentation about all the things they wronged with them, haha! I really want to see Peeves, the actual obstacles the Triwizard maze had and more of the marauders, including the fact that Harry's parents should be much younger when shown through the Mirror of erised! Also don't get me started on the whole storyline of Hermione fighting for the elves rights, they better include it or else Grin

JohnLikesChickenSoup · 18/05/2023 12:34

I’d like Ron to get his moment in the Shrieking Shack, where he stands on his broken leg and defends Harry. It says so much about him as a character, and I was fuming when they gave that line to Hermione.

Just Ron and Ginny in general. The movies shafted them.

bryceQ · 18/05/2023 17:41

Bill and Charlie were poorly done and not at all done!

I imagined Bill so much cooler!

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SirSamVimesCityWatch · 18/05/2023 20:12

Yeah Bill was definitely not cool enough. And poor Charlie, totally cut out! I want to see him, with all his cool dragon-handling burns.

Would love to see the de-gnoming of the burrow too. Just ordinary life in the wizarding world.

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JohnLikesChickenSoup · 20/05/2023 20:51

Also the Molly vs Bellatrix fight. It was over so quickly in the film, so I hope they expand it a bit.

REP22 · 26/05/2023 00:02

And a bit more of this https://youtube.com/shorts/eBvmWIVUKq4?feature=share, insightful and moving, including "I don't think you're a waste of space" - plus more of what I think were happy times for the adolescent Harry, Christmas at Grimmauld Place. x

ReginaTheEvilQueen · 11/07/2023 07:51

Little detail - The Parvati twins being in separate houses, it always bugged me as an unnecessary change when the films put them both in Gryffindor

Medium detail - The little fight between Lucius & Arthur in florish & blotts, would have been so fun to see!

Big detail - The whole winky storyline, poor thing didn't exist in the films!

An absolute no to olivia colman as molly, umbridge yes!

WoodenFloorboards · 11/07/2023 08:09

Mollie is a tricky one to cast. I guess she'd be in her mid forties to start with if she started having children early. Billie Piper is almost old enough, which is a bit discombobulating. Sarah Lancashire sadly too old.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 11/07/2023 09:07

@WoodenFloorboards

Lancashire for McGonagall!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 09:46

Casting the parent generation is hard I think because actors of the right age (James and Lily were 20/21? when they died) are usually cast to play 16 year olds so we don't see them as the age they actually are on screen. Molly and Arthur are older than James and Lily would have been but they still aren't meant to be in their sixties.

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Farmageddon · 11/07/2023 12:37

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 09:46

Casting the parent generation is hard I think because actors of the right age (James and Lily were 20/21? when they died) are usually cast to play 16 year olds so we don't see them as the age they actually are on screen. Molly and Arthur are older than James and Lily would have been but they still aren't meant to be in their sixties.

Sorry, not on topic I know, but something I always pondered about Harry's family situation is where the heck are his grandparents?

If Lilly and James had him in their very early 20's, their parents would have been (at a stretch) late 50's or early 60's. It's not plausible that all 4 grandparents were dead by then, and surely they would have wanted to be in their grandson's life, or even have taken him in...especially given the fact that we are told in the flashbacks about James' time at school that he was well loved and looked after.

The only time they are ever even featured at all are in the photo album that Harry is given. And then never really spoken about again. Weird.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 12:47

Yeah I think that the Potter grandparents were meant to have had James very late in life so they were already fairly old when James was at school, and then I think died in the first couple of years after James et al left school? I don't remember anything about the Evans side though.

Ultimately, it's the need to have a child main character without the protection of parental figures, which allows for them to go off and have adventures! Classic trope of children's literature - rule 1: kill the parents.

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Farmageddon · 11/07/2023 13:00

SirSamVimesCityWatch
Ultimately, it's the need to have a child main character without the protection of parental figures, which allows for them to go off and have adventures! Classic trope of children's literature - rule 1: kill the parents.

Haha, yes - good point.

Maybe the fact that his maternal grandparents were muggles was something to do with it also, possibly when Lily married James and full immersed herself in the wizard world, she left behind her muggle past a bit and lost contact with her parents..

Farmageddon · 11/07/2023 13:01

*fully

aSofaNearYou · 11/07/2023 13:06

Tbh I always thought it was potentially a bit of a mistake her confirming in the very last book that James and Lily were as young as they were when they died. It just doesn't really make sense given none of that generation's parents were still alive, and would make everything that happened to them post school very rushed - they'd have barely have even had time to be in the OOTP before going into hiding. I feel like the dates on the grave stone were perhaps a rushed decision, and would have made a lot more sense if they were around 30 when they died.

thecatsthecats · 11/07/2023 13:22

Farmageddon · 11/07/2023 13:00

SirSamVimesCityWatch
Ultimately, it's the need to have a child main character without the protection of parental figures, which allows for them to go off and have adventures! Classic trope of children's literature - rule 1: kill the parents.

Haha, yes - good point.

Maybe the fact that his maternal grandparents were muggles was something to do with it also, possibly when Lily married James and full immersed herself in the wizard world, she left behind her muggle past a bit and lost contact with her parents..

Petunia would have had to lose contact too! But then maybe that's more understandable if they went off the deep end with their favouritism after Lily died.

thecatsthecats · 11/07/2023 13:27

Oh, and the normal lifespan for wizards is 100+! Apparently they're fertile to 80ish if the Potter grandparents had their children late.

You just have to ignore Rowling mathematics, as she's staggeringly bad at it. Like, the population is 3000, but 1000 of them are at Hogwarts taught by a staff of 20ish, and there's enough people for a Quidditch league.

She never progressed beyond the idea that fifty is a big number and 1000 is a huuuuuge number, bless her.

MeinKraft · 11/07/2023 13:44

'Oh, and the normal lifespan for wizards is 100+! Apparently they're fertile to 80ish if the Potter grandparents had their children late. '

Don't remember reading that in any of the books.

thecatsthecats · 11/07/2023 13:51

MeinKraft · 11/07/2023 13:44

'Oh, and the normal lifespan for wizards is 100+! Apparently they're fertile to 80ish if the Potter grandparents had their children late. '

Don't remember reading that in any of the books.

Rowling added it in afterwards, however it's there if you add up dates as far as you can for characters like Dumbledore, who was well over 100.

Voldemort died at a very average, human 70, which is nice and ironic.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 14:12

They definitely can live a very long time - in OOTP there is a tiny little old witch who come in to examine the OWL exams and she talks about having examined Dumbledore when he was a student. Given that Dumbledore was a pretty darn old man at that point she must have been ancient!!

Agree that JKR is a bit crap at maths. But so am I, so I'll forgive her! She's a bloody good story teller. Sometimes maths and logic and shit get in the way of a good tale!

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ReginaTheEvilQueen · 11/07/2023 14:14

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 11/07/2023 09:07

@WoodenFloorboards

Lancashire for McGonagall!

Oh yes!! That would be a brilliant casting choice!

For peeves i quite like the idea of robert carlyle, i keep thinking how he was as rumplestiltskin in once upon a time, i think he could definitely pull off the silly and madcap nature of the character, rik mayall would have been better at it, but sadly not possible 😢

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 14:22

Robert Carlyle would be a great Peeves - good call!

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Pinkbonbon · 11/07/2023 14:28

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2023 14:22

Robert Carlyle would be a great Peeves - good call!

Anyone else just hearing his rumplestiltskin laugh now? xD

Have to agree, brilliant peeves choice.

ReginaTheEvilQueen · 11/07/2023 19:24

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