Mumsnet “norms” that annoy you most

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For me it’s the utterly obscure baby names. We’ve all seen them and I’m quite sure nobody uses them in real life. Yet on MN, it’s apparently standard.

Honourable mention to the 50% of posters whose husbands are earning upwards of £100K too.

They would have died a damn sight quicker without breast milk!

True, but I'm not seeing how that refers to breastfeeding. You had to survive infancy first.

They would most likely have survived infancy had formula be invented then too. The point was, breastmilk didn't benefit people's health in the long term without all the other health benefit factors we have in the modern world today, and anyone saying well they may have died even younger had it not been for bf, well maybe, but that may have also been true had ff been around then too but we will never know.

Maybe, but had formula had also been invented, they may have also lived longer too, but we'll never know.

Are we seriously still on the bf thing?

Of course medical advances, access to food etc have increased longevity in humans - that goes without saying.

Bf is not some sort of panacea for all ills or for everlasting life.

Nobody is saying that.

What has been proven is that bf children have improved cognitive development and reduced risk of diabetes, obesity, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, hyperlipidemia and some types of cancer.

Admittedly, when people have these ills, modern medicine, nutrition etc is likely to see them through. But I’d personally rather the risk be as low as possible to avoid getting any of them in the first place.

For me, bf for as long as I could, despite the discomfort, inconvenience, sleep deprivation and impact on look of breasts (or any of the other reasons cited commonly), was worth it.

Also bf is free - £15 - 20 a box of formula these days 😬 - arguably formula money could be better spent on something else for the child.

But each to her own. It’s really none of my business what anyone else does.

However, I do care about people having correct information before making their choice.

And passionately care about more support for bf mothers - the fact that I was in the position where the professionals looking after me had no experience of bf themselves was a bit daft. Utterly daft. Like a non-driver trying to teach… wouldn’t happen in any other circumstance. Breastfeeding needs to be the culture with formula the exception where medically necessary, but sadly our society isn’t structured that way and women are so pressured and unsupported that ff seems the go to choice.

The hypocrisy of everything.

It can be a weird place here sometimes.

Oh come on. The criticism comes from introducing kids to men VERY early on which can have devastating consequences… your comment is in poor taste given the recent headlines about the poor little girl murdered by her mothers -recent - partner.

I agree that malnourishment was a factor in those by gone days…But wouldn’t school children have stopped being breast fed by the time they started school? . So if they were so malnourished to stay awake at their desks it wouldn’t have been because they had been breastfed as a baby.
They were malnourished because of a lack of food or poor diet.
Formula feeding wasn’t without danger either: it caused many deaths in the early days of it, not from the formula itself but from the unknown at the time importance of cleaning and sterilising the bottles and equipment used in formula feeding.

I meant about the notion of those children being bf as babies were meant to have been a huge benefit to their health as they grew up, but in the end it made little difference because their diet was poor and modern medicine wasn't available.

If the research was, in terms of history before diet/medicine/environment was better or available, people who were bf as babies suffered less illness/lived longer, than those who had been ff, then that would be good evidence that when you take other factors away, they are better off health wise. But we can't make that comparison because formula wasn't invented.

People live longer nowadays because we have better diets and medicine. People died younger for hundreds of years because they didn't have those things. Breastmilk has been there throughout, but people only started getting healthier and living longer because of the better diets/medicine, not because they were bf, which history has proved. Bf is great and I don't doubt that, but for people to make mothers feel like they are doing their dcs health a disservice for not doing it for whatever reason is just crazy! Their dc will grow up to be perfectly healthy people, providing the important factors are implemented (diet in particular).

Well somebody uses them or the company wouldn't exist. Back when I had periods I used them (without problems) and so do several friends. I used alternatives when I was out and about for the reasons Cinderella stated but one braver friend than me would discreetly rinse hers out in public and another carries a bottle of water so she can sort it out in the loo.

I've come across a few Hebes, one the daughter of good friends

No. People genuinely comment things like "You've only been seeing him eight months and you're already having him over for lunch with your kids??!". I have seen comments like this this week. No one is suggesting introducing them straight away, you've taken a massive leap and it's "poor taste" to equate it to the recent story.

That’s another one, posters linking an innocently exaggerated comment or post to the extreme outcome.

People with no medical training, nor science background, purporting that they know better regarding infant nutrition than those who are qualified and the WHO etc 🙄

Same applies for all medical/science stuff on here actually… so irritating.

Well medical staff in the NHS will tell people that they believe men are women - for £ - they shouldn't have sold out their integrity then should they because they now have a reputation of being anti science and self interested liars.

People who talk in code

People calling drag "women face," and the visceral hatred of drag storytime .

the visceral hatred of drag storytime
Nobody wants or needs drag story time

@steradent could you expand and give a more coherent post please, I’m getting that you’re pissed off with the trans changes within NHS messaging - I am too btw - and I’m presuming you feel those in managerial positions within NHS are making decisions based on financial objectives? Can’t really get what you are trying to say.

Or how this links to breastfeeding guidance from WHO, UNICEF etc? That are in conjunction with all major academic institutes and health systems unified in breast feeding guidance. Are all health systems, academic institutes and NGOs liars?! 😂

I get if it’s an issue that only the NHS are going forward with that there’s room to point fingers, but with things like infant nutrition and vaccine drives etc where there is global consensus I’m liable to back NHS.

I pity your patients, you may consider some bedside manner training and consider why some humans are humble alonv with why some consider some NHS staff to have an unhealthy God complex.

I know right? Why on earth can’t a man who gets his sexual kicks from dressing as a woman read stories to children? Safeguarding is so overrated!

The one at my local library had a pantomime dame esque costume and made family friendly jokes. Obviously it's not going to be bondage time for under 5's.

Their kids play sport at a national level.

Everything is a "safeguarding issue ." They seem unable to understand SS ignore real safeguarding issues, let alone MN pretend ones.

If there's a thread on Mumsnet asking "is this a safeguarding issue," 99.9% isn't.

Wanting to be the one to finish a thread 🙃