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Five people missing in south Wales.

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DanteThunderstone · 05/03/2023 21:26

Very strange and worrying situation. Please keep an eye out if you're local. www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/23364255.three-newport-women-missing-night-city/?ref=twtrec

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stupidsocialmedia · 06/03/2023 08:48

Such sad news. Thinking of their families, especially the little children having to grow up without their mum(s).

justasking111 · 06/03/2023 08:50

We've a road here in our part of Wales, funny camber in places. If you go off road it's through hedges and into fields . Cars and people remain hidden from sight. It's 60 mph limit.

I'm so sorry for everyone in this tragic case

Rosula · 06/03/2023 09:08

Kinneddar · 06/03/2023 07:14

Not necessarily. They can refer themselves for transparency & for clarification the incident was handled correctly by them.

This. I think it is basically standard procedure.

Rosula · 06/03/2023 09:12

liveforsummer · 06/03/2023 07:18

I'm sure it was reported initially that the police dismissed it as low risk. Anyway I'm not sure we'll find out any time soon. A similar case close to me in 2015 still has not had the fatal accident inquiry heard. Must be so hard for the families

It isn't necessarily unreasonable to assign a low risk status initially. As we see regularly on MN, so many cases of people not coming back after a night out turn out to be simply a case of their going back to a friend's house and falling asleep or similar.

Unihorn · 06/03/2023 09:27

What an awful outcome.

The police's initial hypothesis probably would've been that they'd had a heavy night out so I don't imagine it would've become high risk until more time had passed. Especially as one of them was banned for drug driving weren't they?

Also the public don't need proper authorities to start looking around; the police have levels of paperwork to fill in even in urgent situations. It's not like Line of Duty where they just call up O2 and ask where someone's phone was last used, or pull up a massive CCTV map.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 06/03/2023 09:30

Rosula · 06/03/2023 09:12

It isn't necessarily unreasonable to assign a low risk status initially. As we see regularly on MN, so many cases of people not coming back after a night out turn out to be simply a case of their going back to a friend's house and falling asleep or similar.

Agree, but five people, completely disappearing, no social media when they were prolific users, this isn't a usual situation.

One parent has already said the police were not interested.

AuntieJoyce · 06/03/2023 10:14

Cocobutt · 06/03/2023 08:47

98000 adults are reported missing a year, the majority turning up within 24-48 hours (75/85% respectively), very few will make the news.

Post on here that your partner hasn't come home and you will generally be told you are being ridiculous and they will most likely be sleeping it off somewhere and the police won't do anything.

Absolute tragic outcome, but the anti-police rhetoric helps no-one.

I completely agree!

It’s very tragic and sad and it’s frustrating that some posters try and derail the thread by putting blame on the police when there is absolutely no evidence of them doing anything wrong.

You might not agree with the view that the police did not take this seriously quickly enough but how is it derailing?

XelaM · 06/03/2023 10:23

Have any of the girls survived? Who was taken to hospital?

Unihorn · 06/03/2023 10:29

XelaM · 06/03/2023 10:23

Have any of the girls survived? Who was taken to hospital?

Yes one of the women and one of the men, I believe BBC are now reporting the name of the girl who is in hospital, the man's name is all over Facebook.

XelaM · 06/03/2023 10:39

Unihorn · 06/03/2023 10:29

Yes one of the women and one of the men, I believe BBC are now reporting the name of the girl who is in hospital, the man's name is all over Facebook.

Thank you. Just saw this. I so hope the two survive 😞

1offnamechange · 06/03/2023 12:29

Mentalpiece · 06/03/2023 03:53

It's all confused the heck out of me.
It's reported that the girls car was still in the car park, was there more than one car involved?
Why drive from Newport to porthcawl, then double back to Cardiff, to then double back to st Mellon's?
It says one of the men has a caravan at trecco, yet PD, trecco owners say none of them are registered on their site.
I'm baffled.

name changed as in a fairly unique position for this one - ex police and live in St Mellons. It's not really doubling back - from Porthcawl to Llanderyn (the place in Cardiff where they dropped one person off) to St Mellons to Newport is a direct route West - East. So they just made 1 trip from Newport to Porthcawl then seemed to be driving back. This could be the reason for the delayed ANPR - the most logical route from Porthcawl to Newport is just staying on the M4, if they didn't know they'd dropped someone off in East Cardiff on the way they wouldn't immediately look at the A48. Once you know that, the route they took from Llanderyn to Newport is the main/most obvious way to go, but there's no reason for them to have crashed in St Mellons rather than anywhere else along that route iyswim?

In relation to the poster querying why someone else found it 'scary' - maybe scary isn't the exact word but, having driven past the crash site on Sat and Sun with no sign of anything it is a bit creepy/unnerving/sad to think there were at least 2 people still alive but seriously injured and others dead, just feet away.

It's a pretty busy road, even in the middle of the night as it's the main route for anyone leaving Cardiff City centre to drop off anywhere eastwards then get on the motorway. It's really unlucky, it could have happened a minute earlier/later and there might have been lots of witnesses.

XelaM · 06/03/2023 12:38

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XelaM · 06/03/2023 12:53

Omg I just saw that Eve appeared on a reality TV show about her okder sister getting killed by a drug driver in 2015. This is horrific. That poor family! And she was so beautiful!

XelaM · 06/03/2023 12:53

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AdobeWanKenobi · 06/03/2023 12:59

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Really?

You have zero idea of what happened but have decided to blame the victims for the perfectly normal act of getting in a car after a night out.
Wow.

drpet49 · 06/03/2023 13:00

Kinneddar · 06/03/2023 07:19

I’m sure they did tell the mum to stop ringing because they were already being treated as missing people with high importance and her keep ringing wasn’t going to do any good

This

It says they asked her to stop ringing for updates. They'd have told her she'd be the first person to know of any developments. Every time she phoned an officer involved in the enquiry would have to leave what they were doing to phone her back to tell her there was still no news.

There was a large scale search out involving police & the public. Several people have said they drove that road yesterday & didnt see anything. Are we going to blame them too??

This. I’m fed up of the police always getting blamed for everything in this country.

Googlemirth · 06/03/2023 13:01

XelaM · 06/03/2023 12:53

Omg I just saw that Eve appeared on a reality TV show about her okder sister getting killed by a drug driver in 2015. This is horrific. That poor family! And she was so beautiful!

I know you didn’t mean anything by this but it kind of upsets me to read comments like this. As if it’s sadder when someone dies if they were beautiful 😔

SpinningFloppa · 06/03/2023 13:03

Googlemirth · 06/03/2023 13:01

I know you didn’t mean anything by this but it kind of upsets me to read comments like this. As if it’s sadder when someone dies if they were beautiful 😔

I feel the same, hate comments that imply it’s sadder if the person that died is “beautiful” 😕

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:03

AdobeWanKenobi · 06/03/2023 12:59

Really?

You have zero idea of what happened but have decided to blame the victims for the perfectly normal act of getting in a car after a night out.
Wow.

I didn't blame the victims!!!! I asked "why" as rhetorical question

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:05

Googlemirth · 06/03/2023 13:01

I know you didn’t mean anything by this but it kind of upsets me to read comments like this. As if it’s sadder when someone dies if they were beautiful 😔

It's not sadder! It was just stating a fact. Such a tragedy for all families but Eve's family lost two daughters to car accidents! That's just horrific

GoKartMozart · 06/03/2023 13:05

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:03

I didn't blame the victims!!!! I asked "why" as rhetorical question

And you really feel this is the time and place for this "rhetorical question"?

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:06

Some people like to find offence in absolutely anything 🙄

Googlemirth · 06/03/2023 13:06

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:05

It's not sadder! It was just stating a fact. Such a tragedy for all families but Eve's family lost two daughters to car accidents! That's just horrific

You’re right of course, it is absolutely horrific. Just not sure that her beauty is relevant so why say it

EyesOnThePies · 06/03/2023 13:06

We don't actually know, yet, at which point in the 'missing hours' the crash happened, or what happened during that time.

But whatever did or did not happen, in whatever timeframe, it is utterly tragic.

AdobeWanKenobi · 06/03/2023 13:10

XelaM · 06/03/2023 13:06

Some people like to find offence in absolutely anything 🙄

And some people wonder why the fuck you'd post two extremely insensitive posts in the first place. 🙄

This is about five families who have just had their worlds blown apart.
I don't understand why this thread is still here, it's a dog whistle for grief vampires and budding Miss Marples.

They have been found. What happened to them will be made public in due course I imagine. Why they got in the car, their criminal histories and personal lives bear little relevance to the tragedy, as does how pretty they were.

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