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WWYD here (my dog and pub related, name changed as quite outing).

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dogdilemmasagain · 17/02/2023 12:53

For about 8 years I've had a good attachment to my local pub. I go in there 2 or three times a week. I live by myself and moved here not knowing anybody, all my friends live in my old hometown. I am now very close friends with the landlord and a lot of other people who go in there. It isn't about going out to drink alcohol, I could do that anywhere, It's more the social scene and feeling part of a community-Going in there is my only socialisation most of the time.

It is a dog-friendly pub, we're in a place where there are 3 dog friendly pubs and a lot of others that aren't, all quite close together.

I always take my dog with me, dog is now well-liked by all the regulars and the landlord absolutely loves her.

A couple have began coming in recently. One of the couple is absolutely petrified of dogs. They always sit near the bar, where I also always sit.

I am not keen on him for unrelated reasons although he's pleasant enough.

They're there most times I go in with little exception and obviously I can't predict when they'll be in or if they'll arrive after I arrive, although they're 9 times out of 10 already there when I go as I go quite late.

For this reason, since I learned this I have not been taking my dog in the pub at all.

This causes me a couple of problems. One, I don't like leaving my dog at home alone. I am not out for a long time, but dog knows where I am going as he's used to my routine. Dog absolutely loves the pub, everyone makes a huge fuss of him and I get such a forlorn look from him when I go without him. To none 'dog people' this may sound bizarre but I am childless and single, so dog is a big part of me and my life.

Two, I don't feel safe walking home without dog. He's a big dog and although very friendly most of the time, I've had more than one situation where things could have been potentially dangerous for me without dog (I was followed home once and he scarpered once dog reacted) so I really do not enjoy being without him. It's too close for a taxi to be feasible but still far enough away from my house for something to potentially happen, and quite an isolated route.

So recently I said to the landlord that I'd have to stop coming in, I don't feel I am being fair on dog and I feel I am compromising my safety. Landlord said he understood. Suggested I sit further away from the couple instead of stopping coming in altogether, but this isn't ideal, I'd still need to bring dog with me to the bar near the couple each time I wanted another drink, and also, I go in to chat to everyone and everyone I am friends with sits near the bar-I'd just be sitting on my own.

I told one of my friends in there about this too. Friend said that the man who's terrified of dogs hasn't come in ever before until recently whereas I am part of the furniture as is my dog, and I shouldn't be letting him make me change something that's important to me. Said 'If he doesn't like dogs, why can't he choose from the other millions of pubs in the country that don't allow them in, there's a huge 'Dogs Welcome' sign outside this one!'

FWIW there are several pubs within walking distance of one another that don't allow dogs.

Hm. Well I definitely don't want to cause someone to be scared and unable to enjoy their evening. But does my friend have a point? Am I being a pushover? I know dogs aren't as important as humans which is why I made the decision in the first place.

I am more than aware of MN's general opinion of dogs too Grin

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MsNightingale · 20/02/2023 19:50

I'm not a dog person, but it's a dog-friendly pub. Keep taking your dog.

ItsShiela · 25/02/2023 13:12

dogdilemmasagain · 17/02/2023 16:56

@lieselotte dog would try to follow me. And also I'm not 'keeping dog under control' then so I couldn't do that-if another dog went for mine or something? Irresponsible IMO.

@HiccupHorrendousHaddock Dry January Grin

dog would try to follow me

Then I'm sorry but you don't have your dog under control and it clearly hasn't been trained. I've been to a few pubs that are dog friendly and the owners tend to sit at the tables away from the bar. The dog/s don't move when the owner gets up to get a drink, because they know their owner will be straight back. And also, their leash is hooked under the leg, so they can't anyway. If your dog follows you, you have done absolutely no stay! training. I've yet to see any dog follow their owner to the bar, so you're in the wrong there for having a completely untrained dog. I wish people wouldn't get a dog if they can't even make their dog master the very basic stay! training.

dogdilemmasagain · 22/03/2023 00:57

ItsShiela · 25/02/2023 13:12

dog would try to follow me

Then I'm sorry but you don't have your dog under control and it clearly hasn't been trained. I've been to a few pubs that are dog friendly and the owners tend to sit at the tables away from the bar. The dog/s don't move when the owner gets up to get a drink, because they know their owner will be straight back. And also, their leash is hooked under the leg, so they can't anyway. If your dog follows you, you have done absolutely no stay! training. I've yet to see any dog follow their owner to the bar, so you're in the wrong there for having a completely untrained dog. I wish people wouldn't get a dog if they can't even make their dog master the very basic stay! training.

Some dogs, especially ones of my dog's breeding (although he's a mutt) have a really strong desire to be near their owner. He does 'stay' in the house and on walks but especially given he is aware of so many other people around who he doesn't know, he'd find it especially difficult and it would not be fair of me as a responsible dog owner to put him in that position, for him and others.

Also, if another dog reacted to him/attacked him and I'm away from him at the bar or wherever, I am not keeping him under control which is the law. If my dog incites fear (even if a nervous customer walks past him) I could be prosecuted. I wouldn't leave him alone and wander off to the bar-I mean, what if someone accused me of him biting them, I'd have no clue would I? I am responsible and I wouldn't just leave and leave him alone.

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