"All women are bisexual"

[Louise4939]

Why do many men believe this? Because even on the internet I've seen articles which prove that we are all bisexual or lesbian but never straight. If sexuality was a choice then I dont think many of us would be picking men lol

In the early nineties there was an episode of the sci fi comedy Red Dwarf where the lads go in a paralell dimension and meet their female equivalents, so the whole joke of the episode was seeing women act like these fairly typical guys. There's a scene where female Rimmer gets pished and tries to pick up male Rimmer, he tells his mates he's off to hide when she leaves to find "some male erotic videos. apparently she thinks that's going to turn me on"

my mum about died laughing at that and it took me twenty years to figure out why

I'm not bi either. However it's been said in multiple studies that all humans regardless of our sex or gender exist somewhere along a spectrum, with most people being majority straight. To be right in middle, as bisexual, isn't particularlarly common. Unfortunately I can't point you to the science on that because I don't remember where or when I encountered the info; I have read so many science papers and articles I don't keep track.

Bollocks.

The only ‘articles’ like this I’ve seen have been niche manosphere rantings from blokes who are not always what you’d call balanced on the subject of women.

Some people are straight, some people are gay, some people are bisexual, some people are asexual.

And that’s it.

It’s also 100% up to the person themselves to determine and declare their own sexuality. No one gets to decide who someone’s sexuality is besides them.

@BeetleyCarapace The studies are based on self reported data from data from participents in these studies and they are peer reviewed. I don't read anything that's junk science. My husband is a scientist. We subscibe to the journals you'd expect a scientist and doctors to publish in. They're not for public consumption but are often reported on in the media. Science, and Nature being two for example.

Well actually, historically women were strictly inclined towards lesbianism and only engaged in sex with men to produce offspring. It’s only since the advent of colonialism that patriarchal views on sex brainwashed women across the world into believing that we are attracted to men.

They don’t teach that in the history books but I’ve been following a lot of prominent feminist intellectuals who have opened my eyes in regards to how much the patriarchy has warped my sexuality and sense of self.

@FishEagleonthelake

Sorry my ‘bollocks’ wasn’t aimed at you — I’m more sceptical of OP’s assertion that all women might be bisexual.

It just recalls that troll who gets his riah up on here sometimes and goes on about all his ex girlfriends being secretly lesbians and that’s why they left him. (Nothing to do with him being a raging misogynist, no siree.)

I do think there’s something in the assertion that sexuality exists on a spectrum. But I think blanket applying bisexuality to everyone is overly prescriptive (proscriptive?!?) and takes agency away from people. Everyone should be able to realise, understand and declare their own sexuality in their own way. (I say that as a gay person so I have been through the mill on this a bit!)

After reading another similar thread a few years ago I discovered I'm bi and have been since teens, but because of the idea that all women fancy other women anyway, I didn't realise I'm bi!

I am very happy and comfortable with it. I've told some friends - partly because I found it funny that I'd not connected the dots! But I'm terrified about entering the woman-woman dating field (when I'm ready to date again) because of what I've discovered a lot of lesbians seem to think about bi women - and women who come out after they've had children and married a male. I have no idea how to avoid it other than simply avoid dating.

Back to the thread. In contrast to posters who have vomit emojis regarding women's bodies, for me imagining what it would be like to only be attracted to men is like viewing the world in black and white rather than full colour! 🙂

Well actually, historically women were strictly inclined towards lesbianism and only engaged in sex with men to produce offspring. It’s only since the advent of colonialism that patriarchal views on sex brainwashed women across the world into believing that we are attracted to men.

WTAF?

There's no reason for women to be attracted to men other than to reproduce.

The vast majority of women don't orgasm through piv.

@Aphrathestorm

There's no reason for women to be attracted to men other than to reproduce.

If you believe this to be true then why do you not believe it to be true of men too?

There's surely no more 'reason' for them to be attracted to women other than to reproduce.

I am bisexual though I am happily married to a man. I am no longer welcome in queer spaces.
People assume my experiences with women were experiments or trying to be different.

People believe all women are bi yet hardly anyone believes in bisexuality.

It always amazes when men claim to know women better than we know ourselves...

As usual these men are confusing their fantasies/porn with reality.

@BeetleyCarapace Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarifcation.😊

An exploratory study of the categorical versus spectrum nature of sexual orientation
Ritch C Savin-Williams 1
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PMID: 24559054 DOI: 10.1080/00224499.2013.871691
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Abstract
This exploratory study investigated the nature of sexual orientation (categorical or spectrum) by assessing the relative ability of sexual and romantic indicators to be predicted by sexual orientation labels. Young adults from a variety of community and college venues (N =292) reported their sexual orientation label on a 9-point scale; from a 10-item list, their sexual identity; and the percentage of their sexual attraction, fantasy, genital contact, infatuation, and romantic relationship directed to males and females. Although the five indicators were significantly intercorrelated and sexual orientation labels predicted each indicator, discrepancies existed across indicators in relationship to sexual orientation (highest for attraction, lowest for romantic relationship). Sexual identity and sexual orientation label were strongly related at the ends of the sexual spectrum, less so in the middle. Men were nearly as nonexclusive as women. Study results supported the perspective that sexual orientation is a continuously distributed individual characteristic.

This is just one example found online that shows neither MEN nor WOMEN are likely to be smack in middle bi. Men who say women are "always" bisexual are porn addled.

Have you never looked at another woman and thought she was pretty? Of course you have. Do you not love your girl friends? What attracted you to them?

Everyone is somewhere along that line to varying degrees I didn't say sexuality doesn't exist

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Exactly

So does this make gay people of either sex bi or only straight ones?

And what about all the other sex based labels are we all them or or is pick and mix?

@maddy68

Have you never looked at another woman and thought she was pretty? Of course you have. Do you not love your girl friends? What attracted you to them?

Someone can see that someone else is pretty without finding them attractive.

You don't think gay men can see a woman is pretty / enjoy spending time with women but be absolutely grossed out at the thought of actually having sex with a woman themselves?

If gay men have female friends they love, do you think that means they're sexually attracted to those female friends?

I'm bisexual. It's bizarre you're trying to tell other people what their sexuality is.

Telling someone who says they are straight that they aren't really straight is as offensive as telling a gay person that they aren't really gay.

I'm definitely straight. I'm not attracted to women on any level.

Noone benefits from a label and who cares

Actually I disagree with this. I'm gay — to me, that label is actually very helpful and, personally speaking, I care about it quite a lot.

It is helpful when dating, or looking to date.

It means I can correct people when they make incorrect assumptions about who I am and who I'm likely to be attracted to.

It helps me access specific health services which are aimed at, and unique to, gay people. (And in certain circumstances legal services too.)

It helps me find other people who are like me, which is important socially and culturally as well as in regard to dating, sex or partnership.

It 'benefits' the blood donation people because they don't want my blood. (Don't love that one but it's another example of the term/label being used in a way that is deemed necessary by some organisations.)

For gay people, coming out is about stating that. Owning that label. Correcting the record. Even in a so-called ideal world, coming out will always be necessary to some degree because gay people are a minority. So the assumption of society will always gravitate towards straightness. Having a label like 'gay', 'lesbian' or 'bisexual' is helpful for this process too. It is helpful to stand behind being gay, or lesbian, or bisexual, and saying 'This is who I am.' It's clear.

Why do many men believe this?

Because they can't accept women telling them that on the whole, they are wrong.

I take your point when it comes to dating or healthcare that a label is useful.
But in general everyday life it's unhelpful everyone is equal surely

I’m bisexual

and yes, sexuality is a spectrum and some people (lots？）are right at one end or the other.
I’m fairly central but I don’t find many people attractive, it’s quite rare for me. It’s another myth than can be banded around bisexual people that I want to have sex with EVERYONE. I really really don’t.

I can see other women and think that they are incredibly attractive p. However I am not sexually attractive to them.
Decades ago I had a fling with another woman and to be honest, it just confirmed it wasn’t for me.
therfore all this bullshit that men think all women are bisexual is blown out of the water as nonsense.

It's just fantasy.

Some men like the idea of two women 'getting it on'.

Apparently Lesbian Porn is the genre most googled.... 🤔