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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 10:53

She is not handling being replaced well. I don't doubt that she has behaved very badly but the pain that she felt, feels, that pain is felt every day by people who are told to suppress their pain, don't mention their pain, be dignified, smile, accept that you don't matter to anybody now.

I'm not defending her, I know she has acted very badly but why did this betrayal derail her so completely.

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 10:55

@Cheeseandlobster

Agree. Very unhealthy from the start.

Such a strange story and he has a complete lack of self awareness in telling it.

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 28/01/2023 10:56

Feeling betrayed or not it's high time she got her act together and began parenting her children like an adult is expected to.
She'd rather wallow in her misery and rage though.

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 10:59

DarceyG · 28/01/2023 08:47

He is very much a sociopath though and goading her at every opportunity. Parading around the world with his bikini clad lady who looks like his daughter. I feel sorry for her there is a very dark devious man under the mask of respectability! Things are not always as they seem don’t be so quick to judge

A sociopath?! No. This is what I actually have found so bizarre about reactions to it. People calling him a sociopath for leaving what seems to have been a semi abusive relationship, people calling her a narc for an emotional reaction to what’s happened. It really making people give extreme opinions on them. I don’t know whether he cheated, I think some want to paint him as whiter than white and he did meet his new girlfriend when they were married I believe? But I think any sympathy for that has been cancelled with the court filings about her long term abusive behaviour to him, the drinking, and the details of what she has also said to her CHILDREN. People can take sides all they want in the scorned wife/cheating husband debate. But what she has done to her children is disgraceful. And him knowing that and only filing for 50% custody? Unless there is a legal reason/tactic behind that, it’s also disgraceful.

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JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 10:59

PinkPupZ · 28/01/2023 02:28

They've both made a mess of this. IG flaunting BW around so soon didn't help. Men can go off and desert their families and, if the women has a devastated/emotional response, they are simply framed as bitter or not putting the kids first. How about it can be a normal reaction to the shitstorm of betrayal? How about spouses (almost always men) didn't sleep around or stuck to the marriage vows ans put their kids first?

This is what I was trying to say. It's always the woman who is left dealing with the scrutiny of how she has coped with being replaced/betrayed/abandoned.
Any reaction to that or any visible reaction to this is judged so harshly.

I 'm just speaking generally really. I know she let herself down. She will pay the price. Her daughters will side with their father in the mummy is crazy narrative.
He got to abandon his family and still get to be close to his daughters through the ''common enemy'' strategy. Not saying it's a strategy for him, I'm sure he loves his daughters. But bottom line, he left, literally, he left the parenting to her and got a new girlfriend and yet becauuse of her inability to HIDE her pain, the daughters will end up buying in to their dad's narrative that mummy was a bit worthless crazy and replaceable, oh, and meet bianca your 30 year old step mom

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 11:01

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 28/01/2023 10:56

Feeling betrayed or not it's high time she got her act together and began parenting her children like an adult is expected to.
She'd rather wallow in her misery and rage though.

This is true. In her shoes, having unravelled so spectacularly I'd be scheduling in therapy round the clock.

JammyThing · 28/01/2023 11:05

She's an abuser. He doesn't have to be a flawless human being for that to be true.

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:07

Please remember that this is now the advice you are giving to anyone reading this thread who is in a violent abusive relationship:

-you can never get a new partner or move on, it’s just cruel to ‘replace’ your ex partner; no matter how they have treated you or how long you wait. Especially over 50. You are just trapped with them now. Tough titty

-if your ex does find out about a new partner and has started getting abusive, never admit to it or post any photos of yourself with that person. Thats rubbing it in

-give your Ex and kids all the money you have, no questions asked, even if you don’t have it, pay out anyway, at least 500% more than what you agreed to when you got married and your partner chose not to bother working so didn’t save anything or pay into the house

-never even consider seeing your family, especially on another continent, who you were estranged from due to the DV. You don’t need any support and it will be seen as a frivolous ‘holiday’ which you do not deserve

-don’t travel for work, be seen doing any work, earn any money from work, talk about work but also make sure you get lots of work even though everyone in your industry has been told you are a piece of shit

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:07

Oh also, if you are estranged from your children and going to court to get access, remember it’s all your own fault leaving your DV relationship 👍🏻

Tamarindtree · 28/01/2023 11:08

My comment previously about no man wanting to be with her after this is relevant. If she had been upset a the split with her husband but has behaved in a dignified manner she may have met someone else and moved on with them
to find happiness.

Then there wouldn’t have been all
this bizarre ranting and screeching and plotting against her ex and his new partner.

Any man who has seen this side of her is going to be put off is they put a foot wrong they will be subjected to her neurotic side and be publicly harangued by her vindictiveness and attention seeking.

I think she is craving the attentions of man but her bitterness to wards her ex is preventing her from moving on.

Coxspurplepippin · 28/01/2023 11:09

'He got to abandon his family'. Or conversely Alice has done everything possible to alienate him from his daughters.

Anyone is allowed to leave a marriage if they're unhappy. Ioan tried to do this. Alice's behaviour has been appalling and all writ large for everyone to see.

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 11:09

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 09:59

Yes I've read them, I've read every single thing and followed the AE threads. Alice is a nasty piece of work but IG is selfish. The texts he sent to his teen DD were off.

IG refused to go to a theme park because Bianca's health issues ok. He could have worked around it in the teens mind Bianca will already be at fault for the divorce. He's just pushing them further away and making them believe it's all about bianca. He could have suggested something else. Alice is a selfish narcissist who chooses revenge so they both up penniless but I will never believe Ioan is completely blameless and a saint.
He was shrewd enough to ensure he had an unfair prenup set up.

There’s this. Why couldn’t he spend time with his daughters, how they wanted after such a prolonged period without contact, without her? Who is putting them first?

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Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 11:10

For anyone who is interested here’s the Custody Filing where he documents the above mentioned conversation between Alice & Ella where Ella tells her to “be a mother” and Alice calls Ella “you bitch”
amongst other things.

Charlize43 · 28/01/2023 11:12

I wonder how people would feel if a husband had sent this to his ex-wife?

"Do you realize who youre up against, dude? Do you realize ow much I have on
you, and how little (nothing) I have to lose? If you want to fight I will dedicate my LIFE to fighting you and I will WIN. I am not only the smartest person in the
room, but I am also the person who has lost everybody. I have nothing left to lose. So I have ZERO fear. I will share ANYTHING on social media. I will write about everything. As a publicity-shy actor, that isn't good for you."

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 11:17

If you accept that she is very difficult (and I do) I have to wonder why IG went so far when he left. My x was abusive and when I left he was going to fight me for custody et cetera. If he had won custody or 50:50 then I would have moved somewhere near enough that the kids could come to me when they needed me/needed a break. He went on a job to Australia. So he stands in judgment of her while not being there for his girls who probably do need him.

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 11:17

Agree @Charlize43 if the sexes were reversed, and there was evidence a husband had behaved the way Alice had during the marriage so the wife left and then the husband unleashed unholy hell then NO-ONE would be supporting the husband.

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:19

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 11:09

There’s this. Why couldn’t he spend time with his daughters, how they wanted after such a prolonged period without contact, without her? Who is putting them first?

Everyone has explained this.
she was sick and on intensive treatment. He didn’t want to catch COVID and make her sick. He said no to that theme park and explained why. You didn’t see what he said later, Alice didn’t show you, he already submitted court docs to show he texts his kids every single day and has asked to see them many times but is worried it’s not safe to see his daughter without therapy as she is extremely upset and angry, and he alone isn’t able to manage her emotions by himself or make it all right. He admits he needs help to do it and has asked the judge to help him.

He was stopped from seeing them, by Alice after he went to France for work and Alice found out about BW. Ioan was able to prove with evidence that Alice found out before he posted his photo, so he posted it so she couldn’t weaponise it in the media. When he got back Alice stopped all contact because of BW and told his kids BW was going to try to kill them, would have a baby to replace them and daddy didn’t love them

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:20

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 11:17

If you accept that she is very difficult (and I do) I have to wonder why IG went so far when he left. My x was abusive and when I left he was going to fight me for custody et cetera. If he had won custody or 50:50 then I would have moved somewhere near enough that the kids could come to me when they needed me/needed a break. He went on a job to Australia. So he stands in judgment of her while not being there for his girls who probably do need him.

He was working in Australia he did not move there. He had to go back to film.

diddl · 28/01/2023 11:21

while not being there for his girls who probably do need him.

This is the biggest thing for me.

What's his excuse?

Does he need to sell the house & move somewhere cheaper?

Presumably they moved their for his work but if he's not getting the work why are they still there & living the lifestyle that they're not earning the money for?

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 11:21

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:19

Everyone has explained this.
she was sick and on intensive treatment. He didn’t want to catch COVID and make her sick. He said no to that theme park and explained why. You didn’t see what he said later, Alice didn’t show you, he already submitted court docs to show he texts his kids every single day and has asked to see them many times but is worried it’s not safe to see his daughter without therapy as she is extremely upset and angry, and he alone isn’t able to manage her emotions by himself or make it all right. He admits he needs help to do it and has asked the judge to help him.

He was stopped from seeing them, by Alice after he went to France for work and Alice found out about BW. Ioan was able to prove with evidence that Alice found out before he posted his photo, so he posted it so she couldn’t weaponise it in the media. When he got back Alice stopped all contact because of BW and told his kids BW was going to try to kill them, would have a baby to replace them and daddy didn’t love them

Ah, so there are documents with the continuation of the messages where he suggests alternatives?

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Mylaferret · 28/01/2023 11:26

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 10:13

But he picked her as the mother of his children. He should have ridden (separated if need be but still in daily presence for his daughters) that out till they were adults rather than distance himself and take up with a young woman.

Would you tell a woman who was in an abusive relationship that she should ride it out til the kids are 18?

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:26

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 11:21

Ah, so there are documents with the continuation of the messages where he suggests alternatives?

He submitted documents where he shows/says he has tried with contact but these texts that Alice released are the reason he ended up getting the restraining order in the end. She went too far. He didn’t show the rest of the texts on this time but I think he explained he had tried to talk to her and it didn’t go very well. She had also just been hacking into his socials and she is deeply, deeply enmeshed in her mothers lies and isn’t always in control of her own phone either. Alice has used her daughters phone to abuse him. So he isn’t sure who he is really texting

midsomermurderess · 28/01/2023 11:26

Despite so many people averring hated of the Mail, its readers are out in force here today. First, Brooklyn Beckham and now these two.

Habber · 28/01/2023 11:30

diddl · 28/01/2023 11:21

while not being there for his girls who probably do need him.

This is the biggest thing for me.

What's his excuse?

Does he need to sell the house & move somewhere cheaper?

Presumably they moved their for his work but if he's not getting the work why are they still there & living the lifestyle that they're not earning the money for?

I believe he moved out to a small apartment when they separated but went back to the family home daily for many months during covid. He said he home schooled his kids by himself during this time. He said alice just lies in bed watching TV and drinking all day. Alice called his small apartment a disgusting small box and said she wouldn’t consider living in an apartment. He continued to go to her house until he had to leave for work, and then things escalated rapidly and he hasn’t been back since. She once flashed her naked genitals/bum at him and the kids in the driveway and screamed at him so badly he refused to go back

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 11:33

I remember her being on Lorraine when it all kicked off and felt for her. She really seemed like a broken woman. Can’t see anything since from Lorraine? Seems everyone in the industry has distanced themselves from them.

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