Page 2 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Cuppasoupmonster · 28/01/2023 08:20

MeinKraft · 28/01/2023 08:07

There comes a stage where you lose sympathy for her tbh. This time last year I felt sorry for her making an exhibition of herself and it was all desperately sad. By this stage she should have had a go at sorting her issues out.

Yep we’re all adults. I don’t have limitless sympathy for somebody who is so clearly messing their kids up so they can have the luxury of falling to bits.

anexcellentwoman · 28/01/2023 08:26

There is recent research to show that the same percentage of men and women cheat. Millennium women are more likely to cheat than men. Women are more likely to instigate divorce.

www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/relationships/a30459155/why-women-cheat/

drpet49 · 28/01/2023 08:29

Mylaferret · 28/01/2023 07:57

No evidence ioan cheated and they'd been split up for over a year before he got together with BW. Alice was treating ioan like shit long before they split - old Instagram posts of her taking photos of him half dressed and asleep in bed and putting them on social media when he had apparently asked her not to (the captions were usually things like "he's not going to be happy with this when he wakes up but oh well!"

This

anexcellentwoman · 28/01/2023 08:33

That reference was for @PinkPupZ .
There are some posters on here who are so anti men and constantly make untrue statements to support their hatred of men.
Most of us would agree that if a marriage has broken down irretrievably, it is right to be allowed a fresh start. It is cheering to see that more and more parents in the UK are 50/50 parenting so that both men and women take equal responsibility for their children.
No one should be forced to stay in an unhappy marriage ( be they male or female)

mumyes · 28/01/2023 08:35

Both of them are a disgrace, but it must be very hard for her watching him gad about carefree flaunting his new partner whilst she looks after the children.

I don't particularly rate what AE has done either.

But IG should have more respect for the (person he chose as the) mother of his children. He does nothing need to post all these photos of him with / his new partner. Have more respect.

Cheeseandlobster · 28/01/2023 08:45

Mylaferret · 28/01/2023 07:57

No evidence ioan cheated and they'd been split up for over a year before he got together with BW. Alice was treating ioan like shit long before they split - old Instagram posts of her taking photos of him half dressed and asleep in bed and putting them on social media when he had apparently asked her not to (the captions were usually things like "he's not going to be happy with this when he wakes up but oh well!"

This. I remember a post of a photo of Ioan asleep with his youngest dd. Alice posted about his nose and hoping their dd didn't inherit it. This was way before the split. She has no respect for boundaries and her social media posts scream narcissist to me

DarceyG · 28/01/2023 08:47

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

He is very much a sociopath though and goading her at every opportunity. Parading around the world with his bikini clad lady who looks like his daughter. I feel sorry for her there is a very dark devious man under the mask of respectability! Things are not always as they seem don’t be so quick to judge

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 08:55

I think she's unhinged, but I get annoyed when people brand him a saint. The latest is he has no money at all and has been unable to work he's living off his girlfriend. The mortgage is in arrears. Over the years he's had probably millions which he could have used to pay it off.

The prenuptial agreement was also very unfair 10 percent of his earnings and 100k or something. Part of the bitterness is because of the prenup so she's behaving more bitterly. He never changed it when they had kids, he's also very calculating. He also chose to get a new partner and splash it on SM. Then fund make a vanity project movie with her when he supposedly has no money.

I absolutely don't support her what she is putting her children through its awful but he's not a saint either.

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 09:07

I saw some clip of IG on a talk show telling the story of his proposal. It was chaotic. It involved her getting angry, offended, him running after her. He was telling it like it was a cute story- it really wasn't.

I think she was always hard work, but when she was young and beautiful he found it endearing.

DarceyG · 28/01/2023 09:09

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 09:07

I saw some clip of IG on a talk show telling the story of his proposal. It was chaotic. It involved her getting angry, offended, him running after her. He was telling it like it was a cute story- it really wasn't.

I think she was always hard work, but when she was young and beautiful he found it endearing.

She still would be beautiful if she got rid of the bloated overweight look. His new women gets right on my nerves I couldn’t bear 10 minutes listening to that overly sweet voice full of fake positivity. How can you be positive when you’re in a complete mess of a situation. Deluded or what

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 09:10

Also agree about flaunting his relationship on instagram.

She's an unknown actress half his age, it's an absolute cliche.

I'm amazed the prenuptial agreement stands given he's been able to fly around the world working while Alice raises the children at the expense of her own career. I'd be mad about that as well.

Neither seem like sensible people. Hopefully the children have a wonderful nanny or something that provides some stability and moral guidance.

darjeelingrose · 28/01/2023 09:12

I really feel sorry for their children, their mum is clearly in a bad way and their dad is not around. Really dysfunctional parenting.

Habber · 28/01/2023 09:25

Is anyone able to provide all the evidence of gadding about and endless photos he is showing off and flaunting with his partner of over a year as he has only posted 1 photo of his girlfriend in the entire time they have been a couple and she has posted like what, 3-4 photos of them?

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 09:27

If you read the court transcript for the domestic violence restraining order you will see what a nasty piece of work Alice is (she was relentlessly harassing Ioan, endlessly posting horrible things about Ioan and Bianca on social media, sent harassing emails to Ioan’s mother, wilfully prevented Ioan from seeing the children, physically threatened him, tried to blackmail him, sent harassing emails to his employers/future employers in an effort to prevent him getting work and purposely tried to damage his relationship with his children). He had proof for all of this and clearly the judge thought that it was serious enough to grant him a restraining order.

Regardless of whether you think he had an affair (I personally don’t) or is flaunting her (again I don’t think he is) he 100% not deserving of this treatment and he has my full sympathy. He has more than hinted that she was emotionally and verbally abusive towards him during the relationship (and again she has admitted to posting videos/photos of him on social media without his consent because she thinks it’s funny and because she can) and it’s hard not to believe that considering the abuse he has received since he left her.

Somebatshitteryonhere · 28/01/2023 09:33

I think the betrayed woman narrative is one that is just very compelling for some people . And so much more compelling than alcoholic abuser.

But I am surprised how many, although still a small percentage, are willing to still wholesale believe Alice, even with faced with her restraining order, her abusive on line behaviour, Her manipulation of people. her drunken selfie videos. Even her abusive drunken on line posts well before the marriage ended. I’m surprised that it doesn’t give some pause for thought, that maybe it’s not as she is portraying it, and that maybe there is something in what loan is telling the courts.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 09:35

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 09:27

If you read the court transcript for the domestic violence restraining order you will see what a nasty piece of work Alice is (she was relentlessly harassing Ioan, endlessly posting horrible things about Ioan and Bianca on social media, sent harassing emails to Ioan’s mother, wilfully prevented Ioan from seeing the children, physically threatened him, tried to blackmail him, sent harassing emails to his employers/future employers in an effort to prevent him getting work and purposely tried to damage his relationship with his children). He had proof for all of this and clearly the judge thought that it was serious enough to grant him a restraining order.

Regardless of whether you think he had an affair (I personally don’t) or is flaunting her (again I don’t think he is) he 100% not deserving of this treatment and he has my full sympathy. He has more than hinted that she was emotionally and verbally abusive towards him during the relationship (and again she has admitted to posting videos/photos of him on social media without his consent because she thinks it’s funny and because she can) and it’s hard not to believe that considering the abuse he has received since he left her.

Yes I agree she's behaved awfully but I don't believe it's all poor Ioan. He was calculated and shrewd enough to ensure in divorce proceedings she got virtually nothing because of the prenup. He never changed it after they had kids, then now he says he has no money but is ok to work on his girlfriends new film. It doesn't make sense.

I dislike both of them , he has tried to screw her out of a fair divorce settlement. If he would have offered a fair amount it might have never escalated to this. They are both idiots who put their own wants and needs ahead of their children.

Somebatshitteryonhere · 28/01/2023 09:37

Also agree about flaunting his relationship on instagram

he barely used insta and stopped afte he revealed they were together. He hasn’t used insta for a very long time, so genuinely I’m not sure what you’re on about.

Habber · 28/01/2023 09:39

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 09:35

Yes I agree she's behaved awfully but I don't believe it's all poor Ioan. He was calculated and shrewd enough to ensure in divorce proceedings she got virtually nothing because of the prenup. He never changed it after they had kids, then now he says he has no money but is ok to work on his girlfriends new film. It doesn't make sense.

I dislike both of them , he has tried to screw her out of a fair divorce settlement. If he would have offered a fair amount it might have never escalated to this. They are both idiots who put their own wants and needs ahead of their children.

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she won’t get a job and he can’t find one because she has done him so much reputational damage.
he is accusing her of hiding $100,000
he can’t find work and has been bled dry by her wreckless spending and refusal to cooperate with anything. He made her a great settlement offer 2 years ago and she’s stalled and refused and now either have any money left

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 09:41

Alice Evans has clearly never heard the adage that living well is the best revenge. I feel for her being so hurt, but she's not doing right by her children. It is terrible what they are being exposed to. Who knows if IG had an affair, AE doesn't exactly come over as a balanced witness. Very sad all round.

alloalloallo · 28/01/2023 09:42

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 09:27

If you read the court transcript for the domestic violence restraining order you will see what a nasty piece of work Alice is (she was relentlessly harassing Ioan, endlessly posting horrible things about Ioan and Bianca on social media, sent harassing emails to Ioan’s mother, wilfully prevented Ioan from seeing the children, physically threatened him, tried to blackmail him, sent harassing emails to his employers/future employers in an effort to prevent him getting work and purposely tried to damage his relationship with his children). He had proof for all of this and clearly the judge thought that it was serious enough to grant him a restraining order.

Regardless of whether you think he had an affair (I personally don’t) or is flaunting her (again I don’t think he is) he 100% not deserving of this treatment and he has my full sympathy. He has more than hinted that she was emotionally and verbally abusive towards him during the relationship (and again she has admitted to posting videos/photos of him on social media without his consent because she thinks it’s funny and because she can) and it’s hard not to believe that considering the abuse he has received since he left her.

Yes, I agree.

I fell down a bit of a Ioan/Alice rabbit hole and came across the court documents. It’s pretty clear she was, and still is, an abusive horror.

There’s no evidence that he cheated, other than her say so, and her version of events have changed several times, and he announced his new relationship with 1 post on Instagram over a year later.

Flaunting his new relationship or attending work events with his partner? He doesn’t post on IG at all, and she doesn’t post much - plus they’ve been together for over a year, why shouldn’t she be able to post the odd photo on her own IG page.

Alice has been interfering with visitation, alienating his children - to the point he has asked the courts for reunification therapy and as for abandoning his children, he has been fighting for 50% custody and has paying for absolutely everything.

I felt sorry for her at the beginning, but the court documents are certainly quite eye opening. Courts don’t give out 3 year restraining orders for shits and giggles

Habber · 28/01/2023 09:47

One mind blowing moment for me was when she convinced the people who ran his official fan page to hate him and they started posting awful things about him and positive about her - whilst still claiming to be his official fan page and using the same name.

They then realised Alice had used them and turned back to Ioan but the damage was done as they had spent 2 years smearing his name on twitter

Alice got paid thousands of dollars for selling the divorce story and not once did she use it to pay any bills

LingfieldWay · 28/01/2023 09:47

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 09:27

If you read the court transcript for the domestic violence restraining order you will see what a nasty piece of work Alice is (she was relentlessly harassing Ioan, endlessly posting horrible things about Ioan and Bianca on social media, sent harassing emails to Ioan’s mother, wilfully prevented Ioan from seeing the children, physically threatened him, tried to blackmail him, sent harassing emails to his employers/future employers in an effort to prevent him getting work and purposely tried to damage his relationship with his children). He had proof for all of this and clearly the judge thought that it was serious enough to grant him a restraining order.

Regardless of whether you think he had an affair (I personally don’t) or is flaunting her (again I don’t think he is) he 100% not deserving of this treatment and he has my full sympathy. He has more than hinted that she was emotionally and verbally abusive towards him during the relationship (and again she has admitted to posting videos/photos of him on social media without his consent because she thinks it’s funny and because she can) and it’s hard not to believe that considering the abuse he has received since he left her.

Absolutely this and yet bafflingly lots of people still believe her rather than the actual legal evidence of her abuse of him.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 09:47

Habber · 28/01/2023 09:39

OR
she won’t get a job and he can’t find one because she has done him so much reputational damage.
he is accusing her of hiding $100,000
he can’t find work and has been bled dry by her wreckless spending and refusal to cooperate with anything. He made her a great settlement offer 2 years ago and she’s stalled and refused and now either have any money left

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Tattlers incoming, It wasn't a great settlement offer though. He tried to screw her so he can then start fresh with a new girlfriend
Yes she's lazy and needs to get a job but she's 54 so the chances are of a woman securing a high paid job at that age after years out of the work force is low.

Basically she's gone scorched earth which is awful she would rather he had no money and income now which will make it harder for him to start anew. I don't believe Ioan is a saint even if tattlers do both of them are selfish cunts.

CraneBoysMysteries · 28/01/2023 09:47

Agree with most on here that the court documents and transcripts of how she talks to her daughters are just awful, awful. Full on emotional blackmail with mention of her killing herself.

I'm sure IG is not perfect but I think he posted one photo of him with the new girl over a year after the split which doesn't seem like 'flaunting'

alloalloallo · 28/01/2023 09:48

he has tried to screw her out of a fair divorce settlement. If he would have offered a fair amount it might have never escalated to this.

From what I’ve read, he did make her a great offer at the beginning which she refused, he wanted to go through collaborative divorce proceedings. She’s the one who refused to agree to it, failed to file documents in time and failed to turn up to hearings.

She’s refused to cooperate, refused to get a job or contribute in any way, insisted on sending their older child to a very expensive private school and spends all her time drunken tweeting and harassing his employers to the point he can’t get work. He announced a film with his partner, but there’s no suggestion he’s paying for it personally.

She’s behaved appallingly and stitched herself up good and proper in the process.