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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:06

mumyes · 02/02/2023 10:04

@Coxspurplepippin gosh, he does.l a lot of 'work' trips for someone who's got no money...Hmm

If you read the court documents you would know exactly what each work trip was for, and have an idea of what he got paid for each one. Stop acting like his finances are a mystery. It is all set out there if you are curious.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:15

mumyes · 02/02/2023 10:04

@Coxspurplepippin gosh, he does.l a lot of 'work' trips for someone who's got no money...Hmm

You think he's paying for them - if it's work, then work pays Hmm

alloalloallo · 02/02/2023 10:15

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 09:57

Bianca posts lots of pictures away on trips where she's gone with Ioan they aren't just your normal everyday things. The kids are being told you will lose everything school , house and Gloria. They then see Dad's on fancy trips abroad., Australia , New York , UK , South of France , these are all the trips they have taken since they got together and he's supposedly broke.

Australia the first time - work - to finish the final series of a TV show - Harrow.

New York - presenting work

UK/Wales - visiting his own family

France - work - the Reunion

Australia - a few weeks ago - expenses paid.

His financial filings are available to read in the court documents, the link to which has been posted on this thread already. They detail exactly how much each trip cost him

Also available in the court filings are all Alice’s shenanigans blocking visitation and therapy sessions

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:23

alloalloallo · 02/02/2023 10:15

Australia the first time - work - to finish the final series of a TV show - Harrow.

New York - presenting work

UK/Wales - visiting his own family

France - work - the Reunion

Australia - a few weeks ago - expenses paid.

His financial filings are available to read in the court documents, the link to which has been posted on this thread already. They detail exactly how much each trip cost him

Also available in the court filings are all Alice’s shenanigans blocking visitation and therapy sessions

Why did he go to the UK for so long and Australia delaying visitation when his kids are being alienated? He doesn't really have time to waste really.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:25

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have?

It’s has left him in a position where likely cannot push for 100% custody (which he absolutely should be doing) because the stress of having his kids full time would have such a detrimental impact on Bianca’s health.

so I bet she though "fuck it" and decided that finally using her social media to include some photos of her boyfriend

Good for Bianca. But where’s Ioan’s head at? If Bianca’s posts are causing his children upset/more trouble at home, why would he not intervene?

Im reading a lot of 'So victims of abuse need to do certain things to appease their abusers?'

You’re reading wrong. People need to do certain things so as not to cause more harm to vulnerable children stuck in the middle of situations they have no control over.

So that’s all on the parents to manage that disappointment and therefore not create more by moving her to a school Alice knew they couldn’t afford.

You forgot to mention Ioan in that sentence who, I’m assuming, also knew they couldn’t afford the school.

Anyway, Bianca has really dialled down on the photos of Ioan and comments about how happy he is. I’m assuming Ioan’s lawyers have had a word with him about the optics of it, because he certainly wasn’t giving a fuck before.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:27

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:38

No one is saying she can't (she has!), but if she was sensible, kind, compassionate & a bit more savvy, she wouldn't have posted these.

Stop jumping on the 'why can't a woman post a hot pic in a bikini' bandwagon. It's not about that. I would say the same about IG posting a photo about himself relaxing on a beautiful beach, it's inappropriate!

Do you need it spelling out?! If your ex - who you've just dumped & likely cheated on - is stuck at home doing the drudgery of childcare and clearly very very unhappy / mentally unwell whilst you fuck off with your new partner and cavort in your new found love & passion, then have some fucking respect and don't add to her anguish (and by result, your kids' anguish) by you & your partner posting / staging loved up / positive photos.

It's really not rocket science! It's called a temporary dignified silence.

Clearly you wouldn't get it!

There was a temporary, dignified silence. It did not help. Alice was still off the deep end - trying to provoke a reaction. They both have her blocked on social media so she should not be able to see any of BW's posts anyway. Pictures BW is posting of herself in interesting places is what people use their instagram stories for - it isn't provocative. It is normal. I don't think there is any evidence of the girls looking at BW's instagram or what they think about her photos. They might not have even known about her yet if Alice had not made a point of telling them. Everything they know about her is being fed to them by their mother - that is what is upsetting them.

Also, I'm not sure you could describe it as him dumping her. She was threatening divorce for some time before they split, and telling the girls they would have a new daddy. It was no surprise that he took the step to make it official by moving out and actually filing for divorce. Alice's version of events is that she was 'blind sided' but that is not true (and this is backed up by the evidence he has submitted). She has lied repeatedly about the whole thing. Saying she learned about things on social media and in the papers that she already knew about, etc.

There is also no evidence of the 3 year affair she has claimed. None. Why assume the worst of him but the best of her all the time?

He did not 'fuck off' with his new partner. He has been living round the corner from them - close enough for the girls to walk home. The girls must be used to him travelling for work - he has done it their whole lives. Him being away abroad for periods of time to do that and then being at home for long periods is what they have always known.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:28

Australia - a few weeks ago - expenses paid.

Seems then, that he cancelled his first two contact sessions with his children (who he hasn’t seen in a year) because an expenses paid trip to Australia was just too good to turn down.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:29

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:25

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have?

It’s has left him in a position where likely cannot push for 100% custody (which he absolutely should be doing) because the stress of having his kids full time would have such a detrimental impact on Bianca’s health.

so I bet she though "fuck it" and decided that finally using her social media to include some photos of her boyfriend

Good for Bianca. But where’s Ioan’s head at? If Bianca’s posts are causing his children upset/more trouble at home, why would he not intervene?

Im reading a lot of 'So victims of abuse need to do certain things to appease their abusers?'

You’re reading wrong. People need to do certain things so as not to cause more harm to vulnerable children stuck in the middle of situations they have no control over.

So that’s all on the parents to manage that disappointment and therefore not create more by moving her to a school Alice knew they couldn’t afford.

You forgot to mention Ioan in that sentence who, I’m assuming, also knew they couldn’t afford the school.

Anyway, Bianca has really dialled down on the photos of Ioan and comments about how happy he is. I’m assuming Ioan’s lawyers have had a word with him about the optics of it, because he certainly wasn’t giving a fuck before.

The eldest is also 13/14 she will know how to go on Instagram. Bs pictures are also being posted on the DM.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:31

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:28

Australia - a few weeks ago - expenses paid.

Seems then, that he cancelled his first two contact sessions with his children (who he hasn’t seen in a year) because an expenses paid trip to Australia was just too good to turn down.

If you had not seen your kids for a year, you would surely turn down a leisure trip to Australia, so you can see them ?

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:31

I don't think there is any evidence of the girls looking at BW's instagram or what they think about her photos. They might not have even known about her yet if Alice had not made a point of telling them. Everything they know about her is being fed to them by their mother - that is what is upsetting them.

Don’t be so ridiculous. The eldest is 13 year old. She isn’t living under a rock.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:34

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:25

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have?

It’s has left him in a position where likely cannot push for 100% custody (which he absolutely should be doing) because the stress of having his kids full time would have such a detrimental impact on Bianca’s health.

so I bet she though "fuck it" and decided that finally using her social media to include some photos of her boyfriend

Good for Bianca. But where’s Ioan’s head at? If Bianca’s posts are causing his children upset/more trouble at home, why would he not intervene?

Im reading a lot of 'So victims of abuse need to do certain things to appease their abusers?'

You’re reading wrong. People need to do certain things so as not to cause more harm to vulnerable children stuck in the middle of situations they have no control over.

So that’s all on the parents to manage that disappointment and therefore not create more by moving her to a school Alice knew they couldn’t afford.

You forgot to mention Ioan in that sentence who, I’m assuming, also knew they couldn’t afford the school.

Anyway, Bianca has really dialled down on the photos of Ioan and comments about how happy he is. I’m assuming Ioan’s lawyers have had a word with him about the optics of it, because he certainly wasn’t giving a fuck before.

Just to address the first two points:

(1) That is a massive assumption you are making. For all we know he'd love to have them 100% and so would BW. He has a good lawyer so I suspect what he is asking for is what he has been advised to ask for. The amount of stress they are both under now caused by Alice's abuse, must surely also be affecting BW's health. I can't imagine having the girls live with them would be worse than that.

(2) What evidence is there that BW's posts are causing upset to his daughters? Any upset seems very likely to be caused by their mother's histrionics, exaggerations and lies. For example the time she took an innocent post of BW's, showed it to her younger daughter, and told her it meant that BW was pregnant.

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:36

I think it's odd to visit his family in Wales without his children.

Why didn't he go at a time they could join him? Surely they want to see their grandparents.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:36

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:31

I don't think there is any evidence of the girls looking at BW's instagram or what they think about her photos. They might not have even known about her yet if Alice had not made a point of telling them. Everything they know about her is being fed to them by their mother - that is what is upsetting them.

Don’t be so ridiculous. The eldest is 13 year old. She isn’t living under a rock.

And the evidence any photo that BW has posted has upset her?

It is a fact that Alice told them about BW before anything was posted online. She is very much controlling the narrative and interpreting everything for them.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:37

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:36

I think it's odd to visit his family in Wales without his children.

Why didn't he go at a time they could join him? Surely they want to see their grandparents.

It is documented in the court papers that Alice would not allow the girls to travel to Wales.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:38

'Why did he go to the UK for so long and Australia delaying visitation when his kids are being alienated? He doesn't really have time to waste really.'

Have you read the court docs?

Do have a read - the number of times contact, therapy sessions, phone calls etc have been blocked by Alice. He may not have time to waste but short of going and breaking into the house and dragging the children away, he has to wait for the court to go through the motions.

Hundreds of thousands of children go through their parents divorcing every year. Hopefully most of them won't have their mother doing everything she can to make the process as difficult as possible for all parties, abusing their father, blocking contact and therapy, lying, screaming, using her child as a prop, drinking, posting hate filled content on line.

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:42

I don't know about family law in USA but I'd be surprised if there was no legal mechanism for him to challenge the idea that she can just say 'no' to them travelling.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:44

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:36

And the evidence any photo that BW has posted has upset her?

It is a fact that Alice told them about BW before anything was posted online. She is very much controlling the narrative and interpreting everything for them.

Eh, the fact that his eldest daughter was so distressed about their film announcement, that she hacked into his IG account.

If a child is going to that length to get your attention, you need to step back and listen.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:44

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:42

I don't know about family law in USA but I'd be surprised if there was no legal mechanism for him to challenge the idea that she can just say 'no' to them travelling.

But that would involve him actually going to the effort of doing something about it.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 10:45

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:44

Eh, the fact that his eldest daughter was so distressed about their film announcement, that she hacked into his IG account.

If a child is going to that length to get your attention, you need to step back and listen.

Do we know that Alice wasn't the driving Force behind it and encouraged her to do it ? Or helped her? It wouldn't surprise me After everything else has done.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:46

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:44

But that would involve him actually going to the effort of doing something about it.

What, like going through court process as he's currently doing?

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:47

'Eh, the fact that his eldest daughter was so distressed about their film announcement, that she hacked into his IG account.'

with a little help from her mother.........

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:47

Surely as a parent he has equal right to take them travelling as she does? In most jurisdictions the parent who didn't want the children to travel would have to take legal measures to prevent it by getting a court order or putting a restriction on the child's passport.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:48

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:46

What, like going through court process as he's currently doing?

One year too late!

Maybe that’s unfair given he was quick enough to seek a RO through the court though.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:51

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 10:42

I don't know about family law in USA but I'd be surprised if there was no legal mechanism for him to challenge the idea that she can just say 'no' to them travelling.

Possibly, but they had at that point no court ordered contact arrangement, so it would have taken some time and probably still would not have been resolved by now (looking at how long everything else has taken to come to court). The trip to the UK included some work-related activities such as attending industry events and an awards ceremony so was happening at a specific time. There is no way anything could have been enforced in that timeframe. I think it was a sensible thing for him to go to those things, because there is a greater chance of career success for him IMO in the UK, and networking with industry contacts is an important aspect. And he had not been able to visit his parents home in Wales for a long time due to the pandemic and Alice's hostility to them - it would have been lovely if he could have taken the girls too.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:51

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:47

'Eh, the fact that his eldest daughter was so distressed about their film announcement, that she hacked into his IG account.'

with a little help from her mother.........

That was an act of pure anger and hurt. There was true feeling behind that, not just Alice.

If Ioan attributes every thought, feeling and action of his children to their mother, he’ll never be able to mend the relationship between himself and his daughters.

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