Page 40 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:53

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:51

That was an act of pure anger and hurt. There was true feeling behind that, not just Alice.

If Ioan attributes every thought, feeling and action of his children to their mother, he’ll never be able to mend the relationship between himself and his daughters.

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it's got Alice written all over it.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 10:53

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:44

Eh, the fact that his eldest daughter was so distressed about their film announcement, that she hacked into his IG account.

If a child is going to that length to get your attention, you need to step back and listen.

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The narrative that IG was using the money he should have spent on his daughter's education on BW's movie project was 100% from their mother and not from anything posted by BW. The evidence is all there in Alice's own social media posts and the emails and messages that have been submitted in evidence.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:56

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:38

'Why did he go to the UK for so long and Australia delaying visitation when his kids are being alienated? He doesn't really have time to waste really.'

Have you read the court docs?

Do have a read - the number of times contact, therapy sessions, phone calls etc have been blocked by Alice. He may not have time to waste but short of going and breaking into the house and dragging the children away, he has to wait for the court to go through the motions.

Hundreds of thousands of children go through their parents divorcing every year. Hopefully most of them won't have their mother doing everything she can to make the process as difficult as possible for all parties, abusing their father, blocking contact and therapy, lying, screaming, using her child as a prop, drinking, posting hate filled content on line.

He delayed the start of court ordered therapy and visitation to go to Australia with his girlfriend not on a work trip. He had not seen his kids for a year !!! I would walk over broken glass to see my DC if I had not seen them for that long. He still hasn't filed for emergency custody and left it a year to start to issue proceedings. He had the time and money to ask the court for a restraining order though ? He has enough evidence of abuse to try get those kids removed . It's now looking like July until the custody hearing is going ahead she will likely stall and delay , the eldest will be nearly 14 so will be able to say she doesn't want to go. 18 months of wasting his time.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 11:02

"For all we know he'd love to have them 100% and so would BW. "

Eh?! Who gives a duck what BW wants here?! They're not her kids. She had absolutely no say whatsoever!

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:17

That is a massive assumption you are making. For all we know he'd love to have them 100% and so would BW. He has a good lawyer so I suspect what he is asking for is what he has been advised to ask for.

I disagree.

”For all we know…” exactly. That’s why I don’t think it’s a massive assumption at all, but a perfectly logical conclusion to draw in the circumstances. Much more logical than Bianca loving to have the girls 100% of the time.

In reality, how would that look? Living day to day (no breaks) with two girls who absolutely hate you, who will be traumatised at being seperated from their mum and who will project all of their negative emotions onto you.

The amount of stress they are both under now caused by Alice's abuse, must surely also be affecting BW's health. I can't imagine having the girls live with them would be worse than that.

I think Ioan is quite aware from recent contact sessions, that things are and can get a whole lot worse.

It’s so much easier to close down your browser and step away from the shit you’re reading on the internet, than dealing with the reality of living with two alienated children day to day.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:20

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 10:53

it's got Alice written all over it.

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Maybe.

But the person who actually did it needed to have sufficient anger and hurt in the first place.

Stop discounting his daughter’s feelings.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:23

mumyes · 02/02/2023 11:02

"For all we know he'd love to have them 100% and so would BW. "

Eh?! Who gives a duck what BW wants here?! They're not her kids. She had absolutely no say whatsoever!

The person I was replying to suggested he did not want the girls 100% because of the impact it would have on BW. I was replying that that - hence my reference to BW...

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:27

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:20

Maybe.

But the person who actually did it needed to have sufficient anger and hurt in the first place.

Stop discounting his daughter’s feelings.

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She may well be upset now. The point is that she is not upset because of the things IG and BW are doing. She is upset because of the things her mother is doing. Alice is the root cause because she is taking social media posts, rumours, and outright lies to the girls and stoking the fire. If she stopped the toxic behaviour, the situation would improve for everyone.

Otherwise, anything either IG or BW do forever could be spun in a negative light by Alice to the girls, and destabalise and upset them. If IG and BW stop doing one thing, she'll find something else to latch onto. The point is to punish IG via his daughters.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:34

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:27

She may well be upset now. The point is that she is not upset because of the things IG and BW are doing. She is upset because of the things her mother is doing. Alice is the root cause because she is taking social media posts, rumours, and outright lies to the girls and stoking the fire. If she stopped the toxic behaviour, the situation would improve for everyone.

Otherwise, anything either IG or BW do forever could be spun in a negative light by Alice to the girls, and destabalise and upset them. If IG and BW stop doing one thing, she'll find something else to latch onto. The point is to punish IG via his daughters.

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Isn't this Ultimately the point. Regardless of what ioan and his gf r doing. It will never be right in Alice eyes and she will poison their children . So he cannot win whatever he does. And they will still b tramitazed and that WILL be on her. Not him at all. I also guessing everything he is doing will be at direction of his legal teams so surely he's acting in best interest for children. Because legally he wanted it to go well for them. So it would make sense for him to follow guidance from the legal team. And I would say it was 100% Alice doing with hacking into his account this is literally her MO the whole time.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:36

Also the childrens hurt and anger will not be proportate as their mother is parent alllienating. It will be fueled by their mum and not regular parent child relationship stuff.

hothands · 02/02/2023 11:39

So he cannot win whatever he does. And they will still b tramitazed and that WILL be on her. Not him at all

Don't talk tripe. Whatever happened, Ioan is the one that broke the marriage up, for whatever reasons. It's up to him now to lessen that impact on his children, and one of the ways he does that is by having regular contact and putting his children's needs before that of his kids, which he most definitely isn't doing at the moment.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:39

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:27

She may well be upset now. The point is that she is not upset because of the things IG and BW are doing. She is upset because of the things her mother is doing. Alice is the root cause because she is taking social media posts, rumours, and outright lies to the girls and stoking the fire. If she stopped the toxic behaviour, the situation would improve for everyone.

Otherwise, anything either IG or BW do forever could be spun in a negative light by Alice to the girls, and destabalise and upset them. If IG and BW stop doing one thing, she'll find something else to latch onto. The point is to punish IG via his daughters.

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That is so unrealistic that it’s bordering on delusional.

She is upset at both her mother and father.

She has many valid reasons to be hurt and angry with Ioan. Those reasons have been discussed at length in this thread.

Saying that she is not actually upset at her dad is discounting this young girls feelings and has no basis in reality.

It would serve Ioan well to acknowledge the things that have caused her pain.

She would not be acting as she is without that underlying pain.

Alice is engaging in parental alienation, but Ioan and his decision thus far have played right into her hands.

From Ella’s perspective, he has not put her first. Any anyone with eyes can see why she might feel that way.

hothands · 02/02/2023 11:39

before that of his new girlfriend typo

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:43

hothands · 02/02/2023 11:39

So he cannot win whatever he does. And they will still b tramitazed and that WILL be on her. Not him at all

Don't talk tripe. Whatever happened, Ioan is the one that broke the marriage up, for whatever reasons. It's up to him now to lessen that impact on his children, and one of the ways he does that is by having regular contact and putting his children's needs before that of his kids, which he most definitely isn't doing at the moment.

Have u actually read anything about what their mother has done to prevent from that happening ???? He's on a up hill battle from the start. He has visitation blocked. He's had Alice screaming at him when he's tried to videocall . Their is lists of things she's done to block it in court documents. Yes he has to step up but to completely disregard the responsibility of his ex and how she is trying to prevent him from the get go is disingenuous.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:43

hothands · 02/02/2023 11:39

So he cannot win whatever he does. And they will still b tramitazed and that WILL be on her. Not him at all

Don't talk tripe. Whatever happened, Ioan is the one that broke the marriage up, for whatever reasons. It's up to him now to lessen that impact on his children, and one of the ways he does that is by having regular contact and putting his children's needs before that of his kids, which he most definitely isn't doing at the moment.

Isn't he TRYING to have regular contact? Isn't Alice blocking it? Isn't that what the court documents show?

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:44

When u say read anything I mean actual court documents with actual evidence.

hothands · 02/02/2023 11:47

Isn't he TRYING to have regular contact? Isn't Alice blocking it? Isn't that what the court documents show

Did Alice make him go on holiday with his girlfriend when he was supposed to start contact with his girls?

CraneBoysMysteries · 02/02/2023 11:48

Ahhh the end of a mad thread

Anyway Alice Evans is absolutely batshit. Totally bonkers and a danger to her children

I truly hope her poor children are actually allowed to attend therapy and shared custody happens quickly

CraneBoysMysteries · 02/02/2023 11:49

She is mad as a box of frogs

CraneBoysMysteries · 02/02/2023 11:49

Uses sock puppet accounts everywhere

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:49

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:43

Have u actually read anything about what their mother has done to prevent from that happening ???? He's on a up hill battle from the start. He has visitation blocked. He's had Alice screaming at him when he's tried to videocall . Their is lists of things she's done to block it in court documents. Yes he has to step up but to completely disregard the responsibility of his ex and how she is trying to prevent him from the get go is disingenuous.

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Everyone knows what Alice is doing to prevent contact. She was trying to prevent contact before he went to France.

The point is that when he returned from France, it took him an entire year to pursue contact. But he was quick enough to go to court for a restraining order.

And even when contact was awarded, he cancelled his first two sessions to go on holiday with Bianca.

The court documents don’t just show what Alice is doing, they also show what Ioan hasn’t been doing.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 11:50

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:39

That is so unrealistic that it’s bordering on delusional.

She is upset at both her mother and father.

She has many valid reasons to be hurt and angry with Ioan. Those reasons have been discussed at length in this thread.

Saying that she is not actually upset at her dad is discounting this young girls feelings and has no basis in reality.

It would serve Ioan well to acknowledge the things that have caused her pain.

She would not be acting as she is without that underlying pain.

Alice is engaging in parental alienation, but Ioan and his decision thus far have played right into her hands.

From Ella’s perspective, he has not put her first. Any anyone with eyes can see why she might feel that way.

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I never said she was not upset/angry with IG. She obviously is. But I believe the cause is mainly the parental alientation that Alice has been doing. You agree that PA is a thing, and that Alice has been doing it - it isn't delusional to think that that is the crux of the problem here, surely?

Do you think there are a series of decisions IG could have made, that would have resulted in his daughters being happy and not at all upset and angry, that would not have involved him simply pandering to his abuser and doing everything she wants? (thus enabling her ongoing abuse and control of him)

mumyes · 02/02/2023 11:50

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 11:44

When u say read anything I mean actual court documents with actual evidence.

Lols! Get a life...!

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 11:51

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:20

Maybe.

But the person who actually did it needed to have sufficient anger and hurt in the first place.

Stop discounting his daughter’s feelings.

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The 'person who actually did it' is probably Alice Evans. Even if his, what, at the time 12 year old daughter had done it, her mother was probably standing behind her meting out instructions.

'Whatever happened, Ioan is the one that broke the marriage up, for whatever reasons.'
Well, abuse seems a pretty good reason. Or are you suggesting no-one should ever leave a marriage with children involved, no matter how abusive.

Alice has weaponised her children. She isn't doing the best for her children, she's using them in the worst possible way to punish, hurt, abuse. She's a nasty piece of work.

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 11:53

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 11:51

The 'person who actually did it' is probably Alice Evans. Even if his, what, at the time 12 year old daughter had done it, her mother was probably standing behind her meting out instructions.

'Whatever happened, Ioan is the one that broke the marriage up, for whatever reasons.'
Well, abuse seems a pretty good reason. Or are you suggesting no-one should ever leave a marriage with children involved, no matter how abusive.

Alice has weaponised her children. She isn't doing the best for her children, she's using them in the worst possible way to punish, hurt, abuse. She's a nasty piece of work.

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She isn't doing the best for her children,

I agree.

I don’t think Ioan is doing the best for his children either.