Page 38 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:19

hothands · 02/02/2023 09:17

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

He should have told Bianca to dial down the gushing IG posts. Social media isn't compulsory and her posts are throwing fuel on the fire.

Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat

Bianca seems to have lot of money for a less than Z list actress. Is she also paying for his divorce lawyer, coz I bet the same guy that's representing Brad Pitt in his divorce doesn't come cheap.

Quite

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:28

Exhibit a - below - I think we can agree is the absolute fucking definition of 'flaunting it' - if I&B had a half a brain cell between them they'd dial down / just not do shit like this.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 09:30

hothands · 02/02/2023 09:17

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

He should have told Bianca to dial down the gushing IG posts. Social media isn't compulsory and her posts are throwing fuel on the fire.

Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat

Bianca seems to have lot of money for a less than Z list actress. Is she also paying for his divorce lawyer, coz I bet the same guy that's representing Brad Pitt in his divorce doesn't come cheap.

From what I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong), IG didn't feature at all in BW's social media directly for months after that initial single post when Alice had forced them to out their relationship. It didn't help not showing him or mentioning him. Alice had already gone off the deep end anyway, accusing her of having broken up 5 previous marriages, them of having had a 3 year affair, claiming to have hired private detectives to investigate her, calling her all of the names under the sun, implying that she would do some physical harm to her daughters, etc. so I bet she though "fuck it" and decided that finally using her social media to include some photos of her boyfriend surely could not make it any worse. And it didn't. Alice hasn't really acted any differently - she was always unhinged. What BW has posted since have just been trips they have gone on and events they have attended. Nothing provocative. I do think that pandering to an abuser by not doing anything she might not like, is a dangerous precedent to follow. Should Alice always be able to dictate what any future partner of IG is able to do or post on social media? It is Alice's unreasonable reaction that is the problem, not the behaviour that triggers it.

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 09:32

Why shouldn’t a young woman post a photo of herself in a bikini?

Because her boyfriends ex wife won’t like it?

Nothing can justify Alice’s behaviour over the last two years and no one should be expected to remain in an unhappy marriage.

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 09:32

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:28

Exhibit a - below - I think we can agree is the absolute fucking definition of 'flaunting it' - if I&B had a half a brain cell between them they'd dial down / just not do shit like this.

Please explain why BW, who has been having some major health issues, should not post a throwback photo of herself on her IG from when she was looking and feeling healthier?

IG isn't in that photo. Just Bianca. Should she disappear and be invisible to the outside world to make Alice happy?

MichelleScarn · 02/02/2023 09:36

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 08:40

Those who have swooped in to defend Alice last night and this morning, have you actually read all of the court documents?

They make it clear that her behaviour has been consistently abusive since before IG even left. There is evidence of this behaviour - in front of the kids, so they won't need to read about it in court documents, they witnessed it. Then when he did leave, she focused her ire at him and his mother. There are emails and messages to show this. She wasn't unhinged by the revelation that he was in a relationship with Bianca.

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have? Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat otherwise I'm not sure how he would have been able to maintain a residence so close to his children. Secondly, the children have not met Bianca as far as I can tell. She has always been absent when they have had visitation, so the fact that she lives there should be irrelevant. The only reason she is a factor at all is because Alice learnt of her existence (which then forced IG to announce the relationship) and began to both harass her and clearly speak about her to the girls in a way that has made her into a villain in their minds.

People are allowed to leave unhappy marriages. And they are allowed to have new relationships. Of course Alice would rather he hadn't done either but controlling him isn't something she is able to do any more. She seems to be really trying to maintain her power over him though via her ongoing harassment and abuse, obstructing visitation and therapy, and prolonging the divorce and house sale process.

Absolutely agree, I find it bizarre how so many people are completely defending Alice and all of her behaviour is blamed on Ioan!

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 09:37

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:00

@mumyes It's clear as day yet betrayers will always fight their corner stating people are entitled to throw hand grenades.
Yes people leave but many do it more graciously especially when they are in the public eye, unbelievably insensitive for a man in his possition.

The irony is all this vitriol from Ioan supporters is making Alice very bankable and I hope she can monopolise this into attaining monies for her and the girls eventually.

I personally think she been to hell and back.

I have never said I was a Ioan fan I also don't think Alice hasn't had a horrendous time. It must be awful being married and her husband leaving relationship and a year later getting with someone else. It must be awful and I feel for her. When my sympathy stops is when she starts being abusive to both Ioan and his gf. And to being so vocal to thier children and purposely getting involved with their relationship, and it cause a restraining order. I think it'd incredibly dangerous to start saying its understandable why she is behaviouring the way she is. We should not he exusing abusive behaviour. And I think that's very damaging to all abuse victims. Regardless man or woman.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:38

No one is saying she can't (she has!), but if she was sensible, kind, compassionate & a bit more savvy, she wouldn't have posted these.

Stop jumping on the 'why can't a woman post a hot pic in a bikini' bandwagon. It's not about that. I would say the same about IG posting a photo about himself relaxing on a beautiful beach, it's inappropriate!

Do you need it spelling out?! If your ex - who you've just dumped & likely cheated on - is stuck at home doing the drudgery of childcare and clearly very very unhappy / mentally unwell whilst you fuck off with your new partner and cavort in your new found love & passion, then have some fucking respect and don't add to her anguish (and by result, your kids' anguish) by you & your partner posting / staging loved up / positive photos.

It's really not rocket science! It's called a temporary dignified silence.

Clearly you wouldn't get it!

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 09:40

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 09:32

Why shouldn’t a young woman post a photo of herself in a bikini?

Because her boyfriends ex wife won’t like it?

Nothing can justify Alice’s behaviour over the last two years and no one should be expected to remain in an unhappy marriage.

I think it's more to do with how the confused children will view it.

They've been told they have to leave their home, their school and loose their nanny who has looked after them since they were little- because their poor struggling father can't apparently afford them.

And then they click on instagram and see that his life is actually a series of glamorous poolside shots from fabulous places all over the world. He's swanning around at events and resorts with his much younger girlfriend.

The child's mind is going to view it in the simplest terms. And children that age internalise everything and think it's all about them.

Screw Alice, but Bianca and Ioan should think about how the children feel seeing their fathers life through that window.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:51

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 09:32

Please explain why BW, who has been having some major health issues, should not post a throwback photo of herself on her IG from when she was looking and feeling healthier?

IG isn't in that photo. Just Bianca. Should she disappear and be invisible to the outside world to make Alice happy?

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Exactly. 'Flaunting' FFS. She's a young woman facing a debilitating disease. She's posted pictures on her Instagram of herself which are just nice pictures of a young woman living her life. There's a very few photos of her with Ioan, none of them distasteful yet Alice and her performing flying monkeys thought nothing of flooding her Instagram with messages calling her a bitch, whore, prostitute and many other choice epithets.

Why Bianca should be 'toning down' a perfectly normal Instagram account to placate someone who has caused so much anguish, trouble, hatred and spite I have no idea. Nothing is going to placate Alice bar complete capitulation and prostration (and even that's unlikely to be enough) so better just to get on with her life and enjoy it while she's still well enough.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 09:51

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 09:40

I think it's more to do with how the confused children will view it.

They've been told they have to leave their home, their school and loose their nanny who has looked after them since they were little- because their poor struggling father can't apparently afford them.

And then they click on instagram and see that his life is actually a series of glamorous poolside shots from fabulous places all over the world. He's swanning around at events and resorts with his much younger girlfriend.

The child's mind is going to view it in the simplest terms. And children that age internalise everything and think it's all about them.

Screw Alice, but Bianca and Ioan should think about how the children feel seeing their fathers life through that window.

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Have to kind of agree with this although it pains me to say. If he doesn't push for full custody, I have to think he's prioritising the new girlfriend and jetting around over ensuring his kids mental wellbeing.

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 09:53

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:38

No one is saying she can't (she has!), but if she was sensible, kind, compassionate & a bit more savvy, she wouldn't have posted these.

Stop jumping on the 'why can't a woman post a hot pic in a bikini' bandwagon. It's not about that. I would say the same about IG posting a photo about himself relaxing on a beautiful beach, it's inappropriate!

Do you need it spelling out?! If your ex - who you've just dumped & likely cheated on - is stuck at home doing the drudgery of childcare and clearly very very unhappy / mentally unwell whilst you fuck off with your new partner and cavort in your new found love & passion, then have some fucking respect and don't add to her anguish (and by result, your kids' anguish) by you & your partner posting / staging loved up / positive photos.

It's really not rocket science! It's called a temporary dignified silence.

Clearly you wouldn't get it!

It’s not inappropriate at all. Bianca can post whatever she likes on her own social media and no one should be criticising her for that. She has no responsibility at all toward Alice and shouldn’t be expected to modify her own behaviour to pacify an abuser.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:56

'It's really not rocket science! It's called a temporary dignified silence.'

You do know both Ioan and Bianca maintained a dignified silence in the face of rivers of vitriol from Alice and her 'supporters'. Did you ever see some of the posts/videos Alice made? As I said upthread she should have been arrested. The sock puppeting, encouraging other people to swamp social media with hate. She's beyond hurt and lashing out. She's a thoroughly nasty piece of work, probably always has been.

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 09:56

StarsSand · 02/02/2023 09:40

I think it's more to do with how the confused children will view it.

They've been told they have to leave their home, their school and loose their nanny who has looked after them since they were little- because their poor struggling father can't apparently afford them.

And then they click on instagram and see that his life is actually a series of glamorous poolside shots from fabulous places all over the world. He's swanning around at events and resorts with his much younger girlfriend.

The child's mind is going to view it in the simplest terms. And children that age internalise everything and think it's all about them.

Screw Alice, but Bianca and Ioan should think about how the children feel seeing their fathers life through that window.

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This being the school that Alice only recently moved to despite Ioan telling her they couldn’t afford it? That’s all on Alice as she moved her there knowing she couldn’t stay.

And the nanny? Alice doesn’t work, the kids are grown and are at school, so it’s perfectly normal that the nanny will eventually leave.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 09:57

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:51

Exactly. 'Flaunting' FFS. She's a young woman facing a debilitating disease. She's posted pictures on her Instagram of herself which are just nice pictures of a young woman living her life. There's a very few photos of her with Ioan, none of them distasteful yet Alice and her performing flying monkeys thought nothing of flooding her Instagram with messages calling her a bitch, whore, prostitute and many other choice epithets.

Why Bianca should be 'toning down' a perfectly normal Instagram account to placate someone who has caused so much anguish, trouble, hatred and spite I have no idea. Nothing is going to placate Alice bar complete capitulation and prostration (and even that's unlikely to be enough) so better just to get on with her life and enjoy it while she's still well enough.

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Bianca posts lots of pictures away on trips where she's gone with Ioan they aren't just your normal everyday things. The kids are being told you will lose everything school , house and Gloria. They then see Dad's on fancy trips abroad., Australia , New York , UK , South of France , these are all the trips they have taken since they got together and he's supposedly broke.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:59

? Australia - work.
France - work
UK - his family live in the UK. After some of the stuff Alice wrote about Ioan's Mum, he probably felt visiting her was the least he could do.

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 10:00

New York was work too.

MichelleScarn · 02/02/2023 10:01

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:38

No one is saying she can't (she has!), but if she was sensible, kind, compassionate & a bit more savvy, she wouldn't have posted these.

Stop jumping on the 'why can't a woman post a hot pic in a bikini' bandwagon. It's not about that. I would say the same about IG posting a photo about himself relaxing on a beautiful beach, it's inappropriate!

Do you need it spelling out?! If your ex - who you've just dumped & likely cheated on - is stuck at home doing the drudgery of childcare and clearly very very unhappy / mentally unwell whilst you fuck off with your new partner and cavort in your new found love & passion, then have some fucking respect and don't add to her anguish (and by result, your kids' anguish) by you & your partner posting / staging loved up / positive photos.

It's really not rocket science! It's called a temporary dignified silence.

Clearly you wouldn't get it!

What 'drudgery' does Alice have? Does she not still have the nanny/ies?

Are you saying that all SAHPs/single parents have a life of 'drudgery' for doing tasks millions of them do as part of normal life?

Why doesn't Alice go and get a job somewhere/anywhere as has been suggested of Ioan?

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 02/02/2023 10:01

Im reading a lot of 'So victims of abuse need to do certain things to appease their abusers?' Is that what needs to be done? Is that then to stop the abuse? Cause that just sounds like victim blaming!

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:02

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 09:56

This being the school that Alice only recently moved to despite Ioan telling her they couldn’t afford it? That’s all on Alice as she moved her there knowing she couldn’t stay.

And the nanny? Alice doesn’t work, the kids are grown and are at school, so it’s perfectly normal that the nanny will eventually leave.

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Have a bit of empathy for his kids not Alice , who have lost a hell of a lot.Parents divorcing , They have known Gloria since they were babies of course it's going to hurt losing her she was a stable force in their lives. It wasn't E decision to go to the school it's still going to hurt that she had to leave. Then they are going to lose their childhood home while dad lives his best life on Instagram with his new girlfriend? It's insensitive to those girls, I couldn't give a shit about how Alice feels but those kids yeah I do.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 10:04

@Coxspurplepippin gosh, he does.l a lot of 'work' trips for someone who's got no money...

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 10:05

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:02

Have a bit of empathy for his kids not Alice , who have lost a hell of a lot.Parents divorcing , They have known Gloria since they were babies of course it's going to hurt losing her she was a stable force in their lives. It wasn't E decision to go to the school it's still going to hurt that she had to leave. Then they are going to lose their childhood home while dad lives his best life on Instagram with his new girlfriend? It's insensitive to those girls, I couldn't give a shit about how Alice feels but those kids yeah I do.

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So that’s all on the parents to manage that disappointment and therefore not create more by moving her to a school Alice knew they couldn’t afford.

And let’s face it, the kids shouldn’t even be seeing any posts on insta, I believe the eldest hasn’t long turned 13 so prior to that shouldn’t have been on it.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 10:05

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:59

? Australia - work.
France - work
UK - his family live in the UK. After some of the stuff Alice wrote about Ioan's Mum, he probably felt visiting her was the least he could do.

Australia was not work related at all it was to visit Bs family and he delayed visitation and therapy to go. He went to the UK for 6 weeks didn't see his kids when they are being alienated. All these jet setting work trips and he's broke hmm.

Nicknacky · 02/02/2023 10:05

mumyes · 02/02/2023 10:04

@Coxspurplepippin gosh, he does.l a lot of 'work' trips for someone who's got no money...

I assume you realise he won’t pay to go on the trips…….

Vivi0 · 02/02/2023 10:05

Coxspurplepippin · 02/02/2023 09:59

? Australia - work.
France - work
UK - his family live in the UK. After some of the stuff Alice wrote about Ioan's Mum, he probably felt visiting her was the least he could do.

Australia was most definitely not a work trip.