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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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mumyes · 01/02/2023 22:38

ArtVandalay · 01/02/2023 21:57

I hope Ioan is happy. It must be a huge relief to have someone like Bianca (who seems lovely).

If Alice is unhappy, it’s her own doing and she’s totally responsible for making her poor children miserable. Marriages break down. If she’d been a mature adult about it and put her kids first, she’d be moving on and not in the complete mess she has created.

Ooo you cow!!!

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 01/02/2023 22:43

HateandLove
It‘s probably Alice tbh, considering she has form.

You wish !

No I'm just one of those rare breeds that feels empathy for someone who is hearbroken along with her kids.

And yes children can have their hearts broken, thats the problem with fathers that leave a family so abruptly and move on with someone. Hoping that the ones left behind don't kick up too much fuss, congratulate them and wish them well, it rarely works that way.

We see Alice unhappy, the children look unhappy yet Ioan and Biannca look very happy.

Not only that she is being absolutely villified on social media.
She's clearly down but there are so many who wish to stick the boot in further, it's not pleasant and will contribute to her ill health.

Anyways my views are different to yours, that's life.

To be fair I think ur views are different to everyone on here that has commented! Ur basically accused abuse victims of the cause of their own abuse.
A person who has a right to leave a
marriage for any reason. And just because they leave they do not automatically abandon their children. And shock horror they have right move on with someone else.
I'm guessing u have been left by ur husband to a younger woman and understandable devastated and doing quite a bit of projection.

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990
I have a similar view to @HateandLove. I don't get the idea that AE is a particularly easy person to live with but don't know her as you don't either (I presume) but she was obviously OK for IG until he had his head turned and I don't believe for a minute he wasn't shagging BW before they split! I can empathise with AE as someone who's world has collapsed, financially etc, having her husbands OW rubbed in her face and who has been severely affected by it, lost the plot in fact, but she has dealt with it by not shutting up and going quietly like women in her position are supposed to and the hate for her doing that has been horrific.

No I'm not an embittered dumped ex wife either. Happy 30 year marriage and no sign of DH buggering off yet.

Why don't you toddle off back to TWATTLE with your childish opinions of anyone who's not joining in with your bitchfest of a obviously mentally unwell woman and mother.

mumyes · 01/02/2023 22:48

I'm shocked at how nasty people are being towards Alice.

My take is;
They got married
Had kids
One career had to suffer to look after kids
As usual it was mum's career that was sacrificed
He carries on as usual
Mum gets unhappy left alone with 2 kids
Everyone unhappy
He has affair
He fucks off with new girlfriend leaving wife to care for his girls
He pops in to see them a bit
Mum now v v unhappy & understandably so
Mum struggles with MH
Dad living life of fucking Riley whilst not supporting ex and kids
Mum stressed beyond belief with no money or career

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 01/02/2023 22:52

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 01/02/2023 22:43

HateandLove
It‘s probably Alice tbh, considering she has form.

You wish !

No I'm just one of those rare breeds that feels empathy for someone who is hearbroken along with her kids.

And yes children can have their hearts broken, thats the problem with fathers that leave a family so abruptly and move on with someone. Hoping that the ones left behind don't kick up too much fuss, congratulate them and wish them well, it rarely works that way.

We see Alice unhappy, the children look unhappy yet Ioan and Biannca look very happy.

Not only that she is being absolutely villified on social media.
She's clearly down but there are so many who wish to stick the boot in further, it's not pleasant and will contribute to her ill health.

Anyways my views are different to yours, that's life.

To be fair I think ur views are different to everyone on here that has commented! Ur basically accused abuse victims of the cause of their own abuse.
A person who has a right to leave a
marriage for any reason. And just because they leave they do not automatically abandon their children. And shock horror they have right move on with someone else.
I'm guessing u have been left by ur husband to a younger woman and understandable devastated and doing quite a bit of projection.

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990
I have a similar view to @HateandLove. I don't get the idea that AE is a particularly easy person to live with but don't know her as you don't either (I presume) but she was obviously OK for IG until he had his head turned and I don't believe for a minute he wasn't shagging BW before they split! I can empathise with AE as someone who's world has collapsed, financially etc, having her husbands OW rubbed in her face and who has been severely affected by it, lost the plot in fact, but she has dealt with it by not shutting up and going quietly like women in her position are supposed to and the hate for her doing that has been horrific.

No I'm not an embittered dumped ex wife either. Happy 30 year marriage and no sign of DH buggering off yet.

Why don't you toddle off back to TWATTLE with your childish opinions of anyone who's not joining in with your bitchfest of a obviously mentally unwell woman and mother.

I've said before I don't go on tattle I actually find it awful website. I totally don't think woman who are left for a younger woman should nessasery go quiet, I just don't and the courts don't agree with being abusive to ex and his new gf and also parent alllienating to the point it becomes abusive. Hence the restraining order in first place. There is a line which was crossed. I agree she is mentally unwell and needs intensive therapy to be a better parent. I've never said different, Because obviously the children are ones who didn't choose their parents. I hope they can get the therapy they deserve and she needs to stop blocking it! But I'm just not going to blame the victim of abuse with the abuse suffered like this poster. Regardless even if it was was a affair or whatever as we will never know. Even People who have affairs do not deserve this abuse and to have their children poisoned against them. Noone deserves being abused. I would have thought that was common knowledge!

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:00

@mumyes It's clear as day yet betrayers will always fight their corner stating people are entitled to throw hand grenades.
Yes people leave but many do it more graciously especially when they are in the public eye, unbelievably insensitive for a man in his possition.

The irony is all this vitriol from Ioan supporters is making Alice very bankable and I hope she can monopolise this into attaining monies for her and the girls eventually.

I personally think she been to hell and back.

mumyes · 01/02/2023 23:04

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:00

@mumyes It's clear as day yet betrayers will always fight their corner stating people are entitled to throw hand grenades.
Yes people leave but many do it more graciously especially when they are in the public eye, unbelievably insensitive for a man in his possition.

The irony is all this vitriol from Ioan supporters is making Alice very bankable and I hope she can monopolise this into attaining monies for her and the girls eventually.

I personally think she been to hell and back.

Yes. Exactly.

She's not faultless, of course. But his behaviour is utterly appalling.

He should not be thinking about dating someone new, let alone flaunting it (& he does IMO) until the mess with his ex - and poor kids - is sorted out.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:05

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990

Would you consider that Alice has been abused by internet trolls, Ioan fans and sites such as Tattle.

Would you consider this a campaign to destabalize her further.

It's akin to hate crimes to me.

mumyes · 01/02/2023 23:07

And Blanca I suspect is a bit thick & was wowed by the Hollywood actor thang.

She'll either get treated the same if they have kids.
Or he'll learn his lesson and step up to behave better with Bianca.

mumyes · 01/02/2023 23:09

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:05

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990

Would you consider that Alice has been abused by internet trolls, Ioan fans and sites such as Tattle.

Would you consider this a campaign to destabalize her further.

It's akin to hate crimes to me.

Here here

And sadly both men and women go for women like Alice.

Not even the sisterhood suppprts women in this position, for some odd reason.

CyberSpaceTraveller · 01/02/2023 23:21

I also don't get why IG didn't get the court documents sealed so they were not available for public consumption. Celebs especially can do that, can't they for privacy?

His DC will be reading all that about their mother too while they're still living with her,.....

Also it will be driving AE even more crazy while she apparently drinks, no nanny and she's their sole carer especially as she hasn't got a right of reply as she's been gagged when it's been reported all over the press as absolute fact.

Seems calculated to me. Gaslight (no OW honestly), leave, refuse work so no cash but plenty for lawyers, don't see distressed DC for months as off with OW, argue with DC about where to have a day out with them as OW a priority, only home they know needs to be sold as pleading poverty, DC pulled out of their only current stable environment (school), OW popping up in teeny tiny bikinis, pap shots of lovey dovey walks with cute doggie, public court docs released detailing abusive wife's behaviour but DC still apparently safe with her, dumped wife gagged so she can't rebut claims.

I think anyone would lose the plot in that situ.

AuroraCake · 01/02/2023 23:27

I don’t know much about it. However, I had heard on the grape fine from people in the business that he wasn’t always the most faithful. Anyway dreadful for the children who are the only ones that matter here. I never understood why he went to LA. He got with Alice and moved out there and he and that other Welsh Matthew Rhys were hanging around together. But he has never really made it. He was doing well on British tV and a few films. And then he was in that thing with your own from Downton recently.

I don’t think he’s nice. This has obviously unhinged her. They all need time and a fresh start.

Notatallanamechange · 01/02/2023 23:45

Well this got weird

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HateandLove · 01/02/2023 23:47

CyberSpaceTraveller · 01/02/2023 23:21

I also don't get why IG didn't get the court documents sealed so they were not available for public consumption. Celebs especially can do that, can't they for privacy?

His DC will be reading all that about their mother too while they're still living with her,.....

Also it will be driving AE even more crazy while she apparently drinks, no nanny and she's their sole carer especially as she hasn't got a right of reply as she's been gagged when it's been reported all over the press as absolute fact.

Seems calculated to me. Gaslight (no OW honestly), leave, refuse work so no cash but plenty for lawyers, don't see distressed DC for months as off with OW, argue with DC about where to have a day out with them as OW a priority, only home they know needs to be sold as pleading poverty, DC pulled out of their only current stable environment (school), OW popping up in teeny tiny bikinis, pap shots of lovey dovey walks with cute doggie, public court docs released detailing abusive wife's behaviour but DC still apparently safe with her, dumped wife gagged so she can't rebut claims.

I think anyone would lose the plot in that situ.

This

Totally engineered.

Stroganoffo · 02/02/2023 00:41

Also wondering why the court documents aren't sealed. Aren't minor children in the US not entitled to privacy? They surely could read them when they reach adulthood instead of being posted now all over the media.. A lot of the court documents mention the kids .

ambientrock · 02/02/2023 01:56

And sadly both men and women go for women like Alice. Not even the sisterhood suppprts women in this position, for some odd reason.

Nobody wants to destabilise her, but she's provided lots of ammunition with her bizarre posts on social media.

I'm not a fan of his either. I think he's prioritised his new relationship above all else.

The children are the real victims in the middle of this.

Sindonym · 02/02/2023 06:57

CyberSpaceTraveller · 01/02/2023 23:21

I also don't get why IG didn't get the court documents sealed so they were not available for public consumption. Celebs especially can do that, can't they for privacy?

His DC will be reading all that about their mother too while they're still living with her,.....

Also it will be driving AE even more crazy while she apparently drinks, no nanny and she's their sole carer especially as she hasn't got a right of reply as she's been gagged when it's been reported all over the press as absolute fact.

Seems calculated to me. Gaslight (no OW honestly), leave, refuse work so no cash but plenty for lawyers, don't see distressed DC for months as off with OW, argue with DC about where to have a day out with them as OW a priority, only home they know needs to be sold as pleading poverty, DC pulled out of their only current stable environment (school), OW popping up in teeny tiny bikinis, pap shots of lovey dovey walks with cute doggie, public court docs released detailing abusive wife's behaviour but DC still apparently safe with her, dumped wife gagged so she can't rebut claims.

I think anyone would lose the plot in that situ.

Yeah this is why I said up thread I am wary about the narrative around Alice & it’s very easy to frame a woman (especially a woman & especially when you are paying expensive lawyers) as loopy. You are right that she has no right of reply. Any reply she has tried has been seen as more evidence of her loopyness.

I’m very aware I’m an outsider looking in. I think he has behaved appallingly. He has not put his kids first and he has prioritised his girlfriend. His choice. He sounds like a drug user as well - no wonder he wanted to shut her up. That will impact on his relationship with the girls. I find Alice more complex. I hope she stops drinking as I think it would help her whole life tbh

mumyes · 02/02/2023 07:01

CyberSpaceTraveller · 01/02/2023 23:21

I also don't get why IG didn't get the court documents sealed so they were not available for public consumption. Celebs especially can do that, can't they for privacy?

His DC will be reading all that about their mother too while they're still living with her,.....

Also it will be driving AE even more crazy while she apparently drinks, no nanny and she's their sole carer especially as she hasn't got a right of reply as she's been gagged when it's been reported all over the press as absolute fact.

Seems calculated to me. Gaslight (no OW honestly), leave, refuse work so no cash but plenty for lawyers, don't see distressed DC for months as off with OW, argue with DC about where to have a day out with them as OW a priority, only home they know needs to be sold as pleading poverty, DC pulled out of their only current stable environment (school), OW popping up in teeny tiny bikinis, pap shots of lovey dovey walks with cute doggie, public court docs released detailing abusive wife's behaviour but DC still apparently safe with her, dumped wife gagged so she can't rebut claims.

I think anyone would lose the plot in that situ.

This.
Again, not saying AE is faultless, but I think a lot of people would be driven to be mentally ill if this happened.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 07:22

A decent parent (IG) should support the mother of his kids if he gives a shot about his kids.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 02/02/2023 07:31

I tend to agree with opinions like those of @mumyes and @Sindonym

Ioan and his team have done an excellent job of portraying Ioan as a victim. Yet he's done little these past few years to stabilize his family and prioritize the children.

I think he should have sucked it up and stayed near to Alice till the kids were nearly finished with school. He's not owed a hot sex life with a young woman and his already tepid career. Let him find other work in LA. He seems to think it's beneath him.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 02/02/2023 07:35

mumyes · 01/02/2023 22:48

I'm shocked at how nasty people are being towards Alice.

My take is;
They got married
Had kids
One career had to suffer to look after kids
As usual it was mum's career that was sacrificed
He carries on as usual
Mum gets unhappy left alone with 2 kids
Everyone unhappy
He has affair
He fucks off with new girlfriend leaving wife to care for his girls
He pops in to see them a bit
Mum now v v unhappy & understandably so
Mum struggles with MH
Dad living life of fucking Riley whilst not supporting ex and kids
Mum stressed beyond belief with no money or career

All this.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 02/02/2023 07:41

I think it would be interesting to see Ioan's reaction if "unhinged" Alice dropped the kids off at his Bianca's apartment and jetted off to her own beach vacation.

Custody is the last thing he wants; it would cramp his style.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 08:22

@ZeldaWillTellYourFortune Smile haha - his "tepid career" - in banking that brilliant put down! 👏

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 08:40

Those who have swooped in to defend Alice last night and this morning, have you actually read all of the court documents?

They make it clear that her behaviour has been consistently abusive since before IG even left. There is evidence of this behaviour - in front of the kids, so they won't need to read about it in court documents, they witnessed it. Then when he did leave, she focused her ire at him and his mother. There are emails and messages to show this. She wasn't unhinged by the revelation that he was in a relationship with Bianca.

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have? Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat otherwise I'm not sure how he would have been able to maintain a residence so close to his children. Secondly, the children have not met Bianca as far as I can tell. She has always been absent when they have had visitation, so the fact that she lives there should be irrelevant. The only reason she is a factor at all is because Alice learnt of her existence (which then forced IG to announce the relationship) and began to both harass her and clearly speak about her to the girls in a way that has made her into a villain in their minds.

People are allowed to leave unhappy marriages. And they are allowed to have new relationships. Of course Alice would rather he hadn't done either but controlling him isn't something she is able to do any more. She seems to be really trying to maintain her power over him though via her ongoing harassment and abuse, obstructing visitation and therapy, and prolonging the divorce and house sale process.

mumyes · 02/02/2023 09:14

clarabellabunting · 02/02/2023 08:40

Those who have swooped in to defend Alice last night and this morning, have you actually read all of the court documents?

They make it clear that her behaviour has been consistently abusive since before IG even left. There is evidence of this behaviour - in front of the kids, so they won't need to read about it in court documents, they witnessed it. Then when he did leave, she focused her ire at him and his mother. There are emails and messages to show this. She wasn't unhinged by the revelation that he was in a relationship with Bianca.

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

And what relevance does Bianca moving in with him have? Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat otherwise I'm not sure how he would have been able to maintain a residence so close to his children. Secondly, the children have not met Bianca as far as I can tell. She has always been absent when they have had visitation, so the fact that she lives there should be irrelevant. The only reason she is a factor at all is because Alice learnt of her existence (which then forced IG to announce the relationship) and began to both harass her and clearly speak about her to the girls in a way that has made her into a villain in their minds.

People are allowed to leave unhappy marriages. And they are allowed to have new relationships. Of course Alice would rather he hadn't done either but controlling him isn't something she is able to do any more. She seems to be really trying to maintain her power over him though via her ongoing harassment and abuse, obstructing visitation and therapy, and prolonging the divorce and house sale process.

V biased! Are you Bianca herself?! 😂😂

I&B have posted lots of stuff & also done lots of stages to antic walks. FFS let the mother of your children have some fucking dignity & sto rubbing it in her face.

As for your comment 'People are allowed to leave unhappy marriages. And they are allowed to have new relationships' - yes, they are, but he's done it in a shit, selfish, bastard-like way. He's broke? FFS! Course he isn't. He needs / needed to respect the mum of his girls more.

He chose to marry her & have kids with her. His career having priority trashed her ability to work /earn, and now he's trying to shaft her financially.

He's a classic example of a selfish man child flattered by a younger woman & longing for his pre-child / grass is greener dream.

And silly Blanca fell for it.

She might grow up one day & smell the coffee. She might not.

hothands · 02/02/2023 09:17

I really would like to know how he has rubbed this new relationship in her face? He made one social media post.

He should have told Bianca to dial down the gushing IG posts. Social media isn't compulsory and her posts are throwing fuel on the fire.

Firstly, he has been pushed into dire financial straights by Alice blocking the house sale and stealing his money, and Bianca is actually paying for their flat

Bianca seems to have lot of money for a less than Z list actress. Is she also paying for his divorce lawyer, coz I bet the same guy that's representing Brad Pitt in his divorce doesn't come cheap.

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