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Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 15:51

So you. Agree Alice is an abuser then?

The law has stated she is a abuser yes.

So do you believe children should stay with a domestic abuser.
Is it not abusive not to save those children being left in the care of a domestic abuser.

Why has there beem no action to remove them by anyone.
Has Ioan not asked.

CraneBoysMysteries · 01/02/2023 15:54

@HateandLove ...so now IG should have the kids full time?

But your rhetoric is that he is the abusive one who has provoked her, gaslit her, directed smear campaigns against her and driven her to her actions? So why do you now think he should get the kids?

LemonTT · 01/02/2023 15:56

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 15:39

A drunken man calls his daughter a bitch (and other derogatory terms as Alice has) but he's just lashing out. His wife has hurt him so he hurts his kids. The wife knows what the result would be.

Yes, I would definitely be applying for full custody, worried about leaving children with a domestic abuser.

Why has he not done this.

You could apply for it but you won’t get it in California. You are wasting your money on lawyers fees asking for something that you won’t get but which makes you look like bad.

It’s a bit like trying to remove parental responsibility in the UK. It’s legally possible but is almost never granted even against some very dangerous and awful people.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 15:59

CraneBoysMysteries · 01/02/2023 15:54

@HateandLove ...so now IG should have the kids full time?

But your rhetoric is that he is the abusive one who has provoked her, gaslit her, directed smear campaigns against her and driven her to her actions? So why do you now think he should get the kids?

But she has an actual criminal record, anything other than that is speculation.

Why is no one intervening and placing these children in the care of the non abusive parent that does not have a criminal record.

It's madness clearly Alice is a danger.
Do you not think ?

CraneBoysMysteries · 01/02/2023 16:01

@HateandLove erm...yes. As has virtually everyone else on this thread ... APART FROM YOU

Welcome to reality, glad you made it.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:05

You could apply for it but you won’t get it in California. You are
wasting your money on lawyers fees asking for something that you won’t
get but which makes you look like bad.

Wasting money, I thought he had the best lawyers, why would he not get full custody, when Alice is a confirmed domestic abuser.

Surely he would win.

Why would it make him look bad trying to get his children to safety from this domestic abuser.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:07

CraneBoysMysteries · 01/02/2023 16:01

@HateandLove erm...yes. As has virtually everyone else on this thread ... APART FROM YOU

Welcome to reality, glad you made it.

So we can expect Ioan will be doing the correct thing and applying for custody.

It makes sense after all.

LemonTT · 01/02/2023 16:08

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 15:59

But she has an actual criminal record, anything other than that is speculation.

Why is no one intervening and placing these children in the care of the non abusive parent that does not have a criminal record.

It's madness clearly Alice is a danger.
Do you not think ?

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In the UK social services would almost certainly be involved with this family. They would be recommending that the children reside with the non abusive parent if there is one. But I can’t see them being taken into care as long as they are in school, get fed and have medical care.

We don’t have a concept of custody. There is parental responsibility and she isn’t anywhere near a threshold to have this removed.

A abused father in the UK would have a similarly torturous route to becoming the resident parent.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:16

*In the UK social services would almost certainly be involved with this
family. They would be recommending that the children reside with the non
abusive parent if there is one. But I can’t see them being taken into
care as long as they are in school, get fed and have medical care. *

I see, social services can be called if the abusive parent calls their daughter a bitch, whilst drunk, I understand.
For making comments that summount to insinuating your father doesn't care, when he has been absent for over a year.

For calling your ex big nosed and boring.

Yes she sounds a monster, why has no one recommended these children reside with the non abusive parent.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 01/02/2023 16:21

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 01/02/2023 14:11

I'm curious is this what every victim of abuse should do, admit fault as to by they are being abused ? Or just men who are abuse victims? The judge didn't issue a restraining order just for a bit of fun. He would have seen the evidence hence issuing it.

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I wonder why u didn't answer this question? 🤔

Stroganoffo · 01/02/2023 16:23

Ioan should not be asking for 50/50 Alice isn't capable of coparenting. He's made a massive error of judgment going on holidays, delaying therapy and visitation. Hopefully he will apply for an emergency order now.. Those kids are being terribly abused if he doesn't file for full custody any sympathy I have for him is gone as he's leaving them with a monster..

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:24

So you are saying that she has been accused of domestic abuse towards Ioan but not the children, yet he submitted evidence of Alice calling her a bitch, this contributed to her being convicted.

Look this is either bad enough, to be labelled a domestic abuser and gain a criminal record or it's not.

The evidence of her abusing her daughter is the proof she is an abuser, again, why has no one recommended that her children be removed.

Are we only bothered about the abuse conducted towards Ioan and Biannca.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:34

In the same vein is Ioan perfectly entitled to write articles about being abused now as Alice has been convicted of this crime.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:38

Ioan should not be asking for 50/50 Alice isn't capable of coparenting.

So Ioan has asked for 50/50, is she only abusive half of the time ?

And this means the girls have to stay with their father's girlfriend, as he lives with her ?

whumpthereitis · 01/02/2023 16:52

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:38

Ioan should not be asking for 50/50 Alice isn't capable of coparenting.

So Ioan has asked for 50/50, is she only abusive half of the time ?

And this means the girls have to stay with their father's girlfriend, as he lives with her ?

I imagine he’s asked for 50/50 because that’s what his lawyers are advising him to do.

for a start both of his children are at an age where they express their preference. They’ve also been primed by Alice to be hostile towards him. By going for 50/50 he’s stating that he doesn’t want to ‘win’ the children, as if they’re a battle ground, but wants to be an equal parent. It also shows a willingness to coparent and be reasonable. All things the court wants to see.

The more Alice continues to behave as she does, the more she’s making herself look worse, the more she’s digging her own grave, and the more she’s putting him in the position to be able to go for full custody.

Stroganoffo · 01/02/2023 16:52

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 16:38

Ioan should not be asking for 50/50 Alice isn't capable of coparenting.

So Ioan has asked for 50/50, is she only abusive half of the time ?

And this means the girls have to stay with their father's girlfriend, as he lives with her ?

He should look for local work and have the girls full time. Alice is emotionally abusing those two kids especially the eldest who she uses for an emotional crutch. Ioan asks the girlfriend to move out for a while while he sorts out his parenting obligations. To be honest I don't give a shit about the DVRO it's those defenceless kids who are being abused he needs to file for emergency custody now.

Sunshinegirl82 · 01/02/2023 17:10

One of the factors the court takes into account when awarding custody is the willingness of a parent to facilitate contact with the other parent.

IG has very competent legal counsel, I am sure he is acting on their advice.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 17:13

The more Alice continues to behave as she does, the more she’s making
herself look worse, the more she’s digging her own grave, and the more
she’s putting him in the position to be able to go for full custody.

Maybe that's what she wants, maybe she needs the break.
I mean what would happen if she breaks the restraining order again, could she end up in prison, then the kids would have to go to him.

Can you imagine the press would go crazy.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 17:16

*One of the factors the court takes into account when awarding custody is
the willingness of a parent to facilitate contact with the other
parent. *

Well Ioan should do well with that one, he seemed very willing to facilitate contact for the other parent, too much facilitating one could say.

Yes he's definitely been very good with that one.

Sunshinegirl82 · 01/02/2023 17:23

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 17:13

The more Alice continues to behave as she does, the more she’s making
herself look worse, the more she’s digging her own grave, and the more
she’s putting him in the position to be able to go for full custody.

Maybe that's what she wants, maybe she needs the break.
I mean what would happen if she breaks the restraining order again, could she end up in prison, then the kids would have to go to him.

Can you imagine the press would go crazy.

Yes, she could end up in prison for repeated breaches of the DVRO. It's possible (although unlikely) she could end up in prison for the existing alleged breaches if found guilty.

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 17:27

If Ioan applies for full custodyand gets it, Alice would then be able to go on holidays around the globe with a male friend.

That would be nice, she could post instagram pictures.
And claim poverty.

hothands · 01/02/2023 17:28

Well Ioan should do well with that one, he seemed very willing to facilitate contact for the other parent, too much facilitating one could say.

Yes he's definitely been very good with that one.

Yes, he's been excellent at the facilitating, hasn't he? Maybe not so much on the contact part for himself though.

Sunshinegirl82 · 01/02/2023 17:29

HateandLove · 01/02/2023 17:16

*One of the factors the court takes into account when awarding custody is
the willingness of a parent to facilitate contact with the other
parent. *

Well Ioan should do well with that one, he seemed very willing to facilitate contact for the other parent, too much facilitating one could say.

Yes he's definitely been very good with that one.

I think the point is to demonstrate a willingness to put the childrens' welfare before your own and that is generally agreed to include contact with both parents.

An application for 100% custody could have appeared to be an attempt to prevent the children having a relationship with their mother which would reflect badly on IG. IG is not making these choices in a vacuum, he is making them with the benefit of experienced lawyers who know the full facts of the case, the law and the system.

Sunshinegirl82 · 01/02/2023 17:33

hothands · 01/02/2023 17:28

Well Ioan should do well with that one, he seemed very willing to facilitate contact for the other parent, too much facilitating one could say.

Yes he's definitely been very good with that one.

Yes, he's been excellent at the facilitating, hasn't he? Maybe not so much on the contact part for himself though.

The most recent court documents by IG (in response to AE applying to delay the upcoming custody hearing) state that AE has obstructed contact.

In these IG has requested that 50/50 custody starts immediately pending the full hearing in July.

Stroganoffo · 01/02/2023 17:36

Sunshinegirl82 · 01/02/2023 17:29

I think the point is to demonstrate a willingness to put the childrens' welfare before your own and that is generally agreed to include contact with both parents.

An application for 100% custody could have appeared to be an attempt to prevent the children having a relationship with their mother which would reflect badly on IG. IG is not making these choices in a vacuum, he is making them with the benefit of experienced lawyers who know the full facts of the case, the law and the system.

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There's strong evidence she's emotionally abusing those kids , Big E is petrified of upsetting her. He should go for full custody while the girls get therapy then later maybe split if Alice gets help. Those kids are being emotionally abused , 50 percent won't help as Alice won't facilitate contact without trying to interfere and alienate. If he doesn't go for full custody I will lose my sympathy as it's saying he cares more about the travelling and girlfriend than his kids welfare.