Apologies another dog thread

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When in the actual fuck is this going to end?! Absolutely heartbreaking!! What is possessing people to either A. Get dogs they cannot contain?!! B. Get dog breeds totally beyond there control/capacity!

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-woman-20s-killed-horror-28942502?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR0QT61C9BluDRapdjz5AB6ry4dkoKI7Io-WFFe1A055Lrfv4P4XoWCylj8

May I ask what you think bringing back dog licenses would achieve to stop a dog biting someone?

How did you stop the dog chasing you?

Thank you @Lockheart exactly this. It's a sad story OP but your posts are overdramatic and ridiculous. Take a breath.

It will deter people in the first place knowing that they’d have to jump through a few hoops,I think they should be looked into as to what they can actually provide in raising a dog are they capable? And a minimum age and a stable home proof off secure housing for 5 years to ensure the dog doesn’t become homeless etc.

Not over dramatic at all someone has again died because of dogs if you cannot see how terrifying this is there is something seriously wrong! The fact that this can happen to absolutely anyone at any given time is soo scary!

So?

Some dog owners can’t be reasoned with. The same ones that shout ‘it’s just being friendly’ as their dog knocks over my child usually.

When the details come out about the breed involved here - and we all know what kind of dog did this, we all see the headlines about every fatal dog attack and we know which dogs kill adults - will all the peoples on this thread arguing that we don't know what breed did this come back and admit that breed is a common factor in these horrific incidents? Not the only one, but significant. Whoever said people shouldn't be allowed to own pets with the strength and ferocity to kill grown humans is absolutely right.

Yes agreed 🙄🙄 no matter how important the story is the overdramatic nature of OPs posting is ridiculous. To be honest I’m beginning to suspect they’re about 15….

Ah bit some women kill people too you know so it’s absolutely fine for dogs to do it. Honestly I agree with you OP. But you’ll never convince the dog fundamentalists that this isn’t okay. You’ll just be faced with a barrage of nonsensical whataboutery…..or as the first poster tried to do people shutting the conversation down. Dog owners don’t care.

I used to go there a lot (my late DP lived there until we moved in together). We used to walk my dogs there and never saw dogs in the sort of numbers people are describing.

It sounds as though the area may have changed consdierably in the last 13 years or so.

I would definitely support a limit on the number of dogs being walked by one person at any time, I think the number increases the risk. It's much harder to control several dogs than just one or two, they get pack mentality and stop listening to the humans.

And I'd support a ban on the giant bull breeds that are so often involved in these cases.

I hope that the person responsible for these dogs is identified and prosecuted. And I wonder if allowing a dog/dogs to be so out of control that they kill should be treated as manslaughter. That might make people think twice about getting dangerous dogs, or having several of them.

…..also add complete madness. Like @Moobae suggesting that a sausage dog could have killed a 20 year old women and put another in hospital…..nope definitely won’t have been a big dog 🙄🙄

@EvenleyWitch , can you watch your language? You are using misogynistic insults like 'hysterical' and 'calm down' and 'dramatic' to try to shut down a discussion you don't like.

This is an issue that needs more daylight. It is usually women and children that are killed. It is entirely reasonable to discuss this on MN. I'm not sure why the police having asked people not to speculate keeps being parroted. I think everyone knows that now and can choose whether to follow that request or not.

The police act within legislation and want to do what will help them with a specific case within the narrow parameters they have. They are not morally 'right' or necessarily acting in the best interests of the issue in general.

I'd like to see a licensing system, where getting a licence to own a dog is dependent on completing an accredited course of training in the law, responsibilities, canine behaviour, health, how to train, control and care for them etc.

Then make it an offence to give or sell a dog to anyone without such a licence, and use the fees from the licence to pay more dog wardens to enforce the rules.

It seems mad than any dickhead who wants to look mach in front of their mates can go and buy a potentially lethal animal from a bloke in a pub without knowing the first thing about how to care for and handle them. We don't let people do it with cars or motorbikes, ffs.

Same here. Mine is on lead as she is likely to jump on other dogs. She is big and heavy. She has never hurt another dog, but I don't risk it. It tends to be smaller popular breeds that are offlead here.

She loves people, though, and is training to find 'missing people' otherwise known as mantrailing.

I agree with your general points, although your posts are coming across a little hysterical with the overuse of capitals and exclamation marks.

I own a (dog) aggressive dog and I work extremely hard to control her and the environment she lives in and I’ve never had any problems. I would say that once you’ve owned a dog like this you are constantly aware of a dogs body language and it always astounds me how useless the majority of dog owners actually are and I do think there should be a competency test before being allowed to own one.

The problem with banning breeds that are large enough to kill an adult human is that there are a lot of dogs physically capable of doing this. I’m pretty sure an out of control Labrador has the size and strength to kill an adult human if they wanted to. It’s a shame the bully breeds have been demonised as most are lovely dogs but unfortunately are chosen as status dogs and are owned by idiots. I think probably having a licence to own certain breeds will be the way forward.

Ah so you don't want to see many pastoral/working dogs anymore?
English Mastiff, Rottweiler, Doberman's, German shepherds, Belgian Malinois, Giant Schnauzer, Boxer.
So people can only own a terrier or a spaniel?

Terriers can be utter bastards. I had lakelands, and they are a real challenge to train. Mine were fine with almost everything, brilliant around horses and children, and great with people, but they had to be on the lead if there were sheep or poultry about. And I'm no novice and managed to housetrain the (adorable) fuckers in 3 days.

I've known some Jack Russells that are complete nightmares and there's a Scottie near me that some people cross the road to avoid. It goes for people's ankles as they walk past.

God it’s terrifying. I love dogs but I’d support tight restrictions on certain popular breeds - infact most breeds in the “working” category as well as ALL bull breeds (let’s be honest, this incident won’t involve 7 collies will it)

A cockerpoo isn’t a breed, it’s a mongrel and no it couldn’t kill a fully grown adult

The only dog that's ever attacked my dog is a collie, owned by 2 idiots. It puts in a 14 hour shift guarding its house at the front window and goes berserk at the sight of humans, dogs, bin lorries, anything. When it does get out on lead, everyone has to cross the road. Stoned, feckless owners.

I'm a dog owner and I'd support regulation of dog ownership. Hard to prove someone is an idiot though.

And I'd be furious if a terrier went for my ankles, sure. That dog's owner should be made to get it under control or not be allowed to own dogs. But they aren't killing grown women in parks. And yes, Labs are big and they bite but every time an adult is mauled to death by a dog, it's the same kind of dog and it's so ridiculous that people try to pretend otherwise.

I used that language too. Not to shut down a conversation that I don't like (I actually agree with some of the OP's points). However, OP is in fact being dramatic and does need to calm down. Are you assuming that OP is a woman?

Well I’m not 15 for a start and I don’t think I’m being remotely over dramatic given the circumstances and all the dog related events.

I think people should be able to go about there days and business without being attacked or worried because irresponsible people can’t control there “pets”. Even with a friendly bouncy dog with a shit recall jumping up in public places shouldn’t be tolerated!

It needs to end somewhere and if you live in areas like me and other posters with very young owners of showing off that there dogs are triple the size of themselves being walked down the road by there dogs as it’s clear as day they cannot even handle them on a lead,then maybe you’d understand a bit why this is a massive concern not a minor one.

Let's wait and see shall we? If this fatal attack was carried out by a sausage dog I'll give you a million pounds.