Apologies another dog thread

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When in the actual fuck is this going to end?! Absolutely heartbreaking!! What is possessing people to either A. Get dogs they cannot contain?!! B. Get dog breeds totally beyond there control/capacity!

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-woman-20s-killed-horror-28942502?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR0QT61C9BluDRapdjz5AB6ry4dkoKI7Io-WFFe1A055Lrfv4P4XoWCylj8

@DaphneFlower that is unfortunately a fairly common occurrence, despite the regular warnings and pleas from the city of London corporation. So sad.

Um, loveSTAFFIES and you're having a pop at other breeds?

My (bull + collie + grey) lurcher is dangerous to squirrels, rabbits and rats. He's not especially interested in dogs or humans, because they don't run away from him and they aren't very fast if they do.
On the other hand, he and I both have significant scarring from encounters with off-lead staffies that actively wanted to fight and hurt humans and dogs. And I'm not being dramatic about a nip or two like a normal dog fight - I needed orthopaedic surgery and the dog almost lost his eye.

They're remarkably gentle with people though. They only kill furry things that run, and are great at keeping the rabbit population down. And I don't think you have to train them to do it, I'm pretty sure it's instinct.

You could say the same about terriers, they kill, but people don't tend to mind because they mostly kill rats, although one of mine killed a hedgehog, much to my dismay.

So people are dying unnecessarily by measures that could be put in place to ensure dogs don’t end up in the wrong hands and boundaries set!

I don’t see any reaction to anyone dying unnecessarily and avoidably dramatic!

So people are dying unnecessarily by measures that could be put in place to ensure dogs don’t end up in the wrong hands and boundaries set!

This doesn't make sense. Have another go.

Apparently the incident involved a dog Walker and one other dog. Hence the 7 missing dogs.

That poor dog walker.

What does it matter, realistically? The police request is directed at the local population and, as someone has pointed out, is mostly directed at stopping vigilante behaviour. It doesn't mean the entire country has to go into purdah, let alone a few randoms on MN.

In fairness, it's only when it's on the lead in the street that it does it. It's fine off-lead in the fields and on the bridleways, and good with other dogs and people. And now I come to think about it, I've only seen it do it when the owner has the buggy with her toddler in, so I wonder if it's a guarding thing.

Still doesn't make it right of course, and if I was in the owner's shoes I'd muzzle it when out with the buggy. I stopped and made a fuss of it a couple of times, and it wags its tail and waits to be petted when it sees me now.

This thread is bizarre. A perfectly legitimate discussion about a shocking event and so many people seem to want to shut it down. Plus lots of unnecessary nastiness towards the OP.

IMO, we do need to discuss these attacks, there needs to be some kind of official discussion followed by legislation. There is absolutely no need for anyone to own a dog primarily bred for aggression towards humans. And to whoever said that any dog is capable of killing an adult human - that's utter bs.

Thanks, I was wondering why the press reports referred to "a dog" when 7 were missing.

I hope the dog is chipped and that the dick who was responsible for it at the time can be traced.

@Lockheart why are you so defensive and why are your posts aimed at discrediting the poster and diverting these type of threads. Do you have a dog that attacks people?

We do not live in a Police state. The police cannot tell us what we can't and can't talk about.

What is there to speculate about? A poor woman was killed by a dog. Nothing is unclear.

None of my posts are defensive.

I don't own a dog.

I am not discrediting the OP. I am pointing out that police have asked people not to speculate and that her posts literally don't make sense. She discredits herself.

Don't be silly.

@Lockheart , everyone on this thread knows that the police have asked people not to speculate.

It is not down to you to enforce that request. Everyone has the choice of how to interpret that request and whether or not to abide by it.

No sausage dog is capable of killing an adult human, unless maybe you trip over it and hit your head in a remarkably unlucky way. Silly argument.

I bet it was one of those nasty Staffies

I hate this stupid argument that all dogs can kill, bloody ridiculous.

Even a fully grown German shepherd would not be able to kill an adult easily … I mean they could, but it wouldn’t be easy.

American bulldog? That would be easy
“cockerpoo”? No chance (unless the dog had rabies I suppose)

I don't know, @Velvian - you are in this very same thread enforcing the ways that others talk and what language they use. Pot, kettle.

Probably done away with the dog warden, like mine has, and laugh about it.

Councils need to reinstate their dog warden services and stop this nonsense. Dog wardens can deal with a lot of issues before they become worse ones.

I hate this stupid argument that all dogs can kill, bloody ridiculous

Of course it's not stupid. And of course a German shepherd could kill if it bit the right part of an adult's body. Even a small dog could cause serious injuries, and even a small bite can lead to sepsis, so yes, all dogs can kill.

And before you say that applies to any animal, yes it does, but when was the last time a cat jumped at you when you were walking along minding your own business.

there were several squirrels in my garden this morning and they can give a nasty nip

It costs a huge amount to police dog ownership.
Only responsible owners will be affected- irresponsible ones crack on regardless.
The people who are dangerous with dogs are often dangerous in other ways. Removing the dog won't remove the danger they present, imo.
People don't want/can't afford to pay more taxes.
It won't stop tragedies happening. Tragedies happen despite legislation rather than in its absence.

We need better education around dogs, yes.

Exactly it means locals not going and harassing people at their doors not strangers discussing it on an anonymous forum

When someone talks of banning all aggressive / big dogs there is always someone who comes on to say about the time when a cockerpoo bit them so you can’t do it like that.

We can. We can ban all aggressive breeds, only allow breeds that have a friendly temperament off the lead and we would reduce injuries / deaths from dog attacks massively. Yes it doesn’t totally eliminate the problem but it’s massively better than the current situation.