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Apologies another dog thread

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Babsexxx · 12/01/2023 22:16

When in the actual fuck is this going to end?! Absolutely heartbreaking!! What is possessing people to either A. Get dogs they cannot contain?!! B. Get dog breeds totally beyond there control/capacity!

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-woman-20s-killed-horror-28942502?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR0QT61C9BluDRapdjz5AB6ry4dkoKI7Io-WFFe1A055Lrfv4P4XoWCylj8

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Getridofdogs2023 · 01/02/2023 07:13

Here we go again . Poor little girl.

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 13:15

The little girl was killed by an American bulldog they got from a rescue centre weeks ago. The fucking thing should have been killed and not rehomed. None of these dogs should be rehomed, they are too volatile to take a chance on.

Igotjelly · 01/02/2023 13:39

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 13:15

The little girl was killed by an American bulldog they got from a rescue centre weeks ago. The fucking thing should have been killed and not rehomed. None of these dogs should be rehomed, they are too volatile to take a chance on.

There surely has to be questions for whomever rehomed such a big powerful dog in a home with young children.

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Boomboom22 · 01/02/2023 14:11

Staff at the rescue centre and the parent responsible should be prosecuted. It's not a tragic incident or accident. Staff at the rescue centre should have assessed the dog and put it down not let someone with kids or anyone at all rehome this killer. When are the police going to enforce current law, never mind new one's which are clearly required.

KendrickLamaze · 01/02/2023 16:38

I cannot see that the breed has been confirmed anywhere. In fact, I see the opposite.

All we know is that it's a rescue and has only been with them a few weeks.

Most rescues won't rehome particular types of dog with children so how did this happen?

I'm pro dog and have no problem with any breed believing it's all to do with the owner but I would never rehome a dog with a small child. It's a huge risk.

news.sky.com/story/dog-that-killed-four-year-old-girl-was-family-pet-police-say-12800795 Dog that killed four-year-old girl was family pet, police say 

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 16:53

Breed has not been officially confirmed, but some news sites are reporting a neighbour said it was an American Bulldog.

KendrickLamaze · 01/02/2023 17:00

Thank you.

I do wonder if the neighbours are jumping to conclusions as much as Mumsnet.

An American bully is not much bigger than a Labrador. Both can be brown. One usually wider. Xl bully's are different.

userxx · 01/02/2023 19:43

Boomboom22 · 01/02/2023 14:11

Staff at the rescue centre and the parent responsible should be prosecuted. It's not a tragic incident or accident. Staff at the rescue centre should have assessed the dog and put it down not let someone with kids or anyone at all rehome this killer. When are the police going to enforce current law, never mind new one's which are clearly required.

Some rescues are clearly better than others. I've seen one recently rehoming a border terrier and the demands are high! Can't be around children full stop. On my local Next-door app the rspca have apparently rehomed an 18 month old Dalmatian to a lady in a one bed flat with mobility issues - She's asking randoms to walk her dog for free. Wtf.

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 20:09

I think that any dog in a rescue centre that cannot be trusted around children should be put down. We do not need these dogs in the community.

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2023 20:33

Other sources are reporting the dog was a husky x boxer.

I don't think anything is reliable yet.

As for euthanising any dog that can't be trusted around children -what exactly does that mean even?

I wouldn't trust ANY dog around kids, so many of the deaths we have seen in the last decade or two, have been because people DID trust dogs despite evidence to suggest they should not have.

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 20:51

When they assess the dog at the rescue they sometimes conclude it is not suitable for a home with children for various reasons. Those dogs should be PTS as they will of course still encounter children.

Just went on our local rescue and this is the first dog on the list. This is clearly a difficult dog. Just put it down. They are always full to bursting to the point where they can't take more dogs. They'd have more space if they put down the aggressive ones. We're too focused on avoiding PTS at any cost.

Apologies another dog thread
XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 21:13

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 20:51

When they assess the dog at the rescue they sometimes conclude it is not suitable for a home with children for various reasons. Those dogs should be PTS as they will of course still encounter children.

Just went on our local rescue and this is the first dog on the list. This is clearly a difficult dog. Just put it down. They are always full to bursting to the point where they can't take more dogs. They'd have more space if they put down the aggressive ones. We're too focused on avoiding PTS at any cost.

None of that means he will be aggressive to children. He may have come from an adult only family, and the rescue would rather err on the side of caution Better that, than rehome him with kids as a way to test the waters. Not fair on the dog or children.

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 21:17

It says in the description that he's muzzle trained. Fuck that. I just don't accept that it's responsible to rehome that dog and any others like him.

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 21:29

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 21:17

It says in the description that he's muzzle trained. Fuck that. I just don't accept that it's responsible to rehome that dog and any others like him.

That means he is happy to wear a muzzle. A lot of retired greyhounds are too. Does not mean they are dangerous.
Hell, if I had to hand my dog over to a rescue, her description would be similar. Does not mean she should be PTS.

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2023 21:40

All my dogs are muzzle trained and would prefer to live with adults.

Thats because they've never lived with kids, have only ever met kids in the pub where kids are sat still and they're on a lead. They are muzzle trained as thats sensible to do should they ever need to be muzzled for any reason - it means they think shoving their nose in a muzzle and wearing one is fun, it earns them treats.

Goingforasong · 02/02/2023 08:40

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 20:51

When they assess the dog at the rescue they sometimes conclude it is not suitable for a home with children for various reasons. Those dogs should be PTS as they will of course still encounter children.

Just went on our local rescue and this is the first dog on the list. This is clearly a difficult dog. Just put it down. They are always full to bursting to the point where they can't take more dogs. They'd have more space if they put down the aggressive ones. We're too focused on avoiding PTS at any cost.

Totally agree with you. Rescues are full to bursting point and most of them refuse to consider PTS for a healthy dog. It would be much better to PTS those that are not safe in the community as it is unreasonable to expect any new owner to keep their dog away from other dogs, cats, other people etc.

Floofyduffypuddy · 02/02/2023 08:49

Going, totally agree.

I've noted that there is something in some people that want to prove how gentle these beast's are.

XenoBitch · 02/02/2023 09:54

Goingforasong · 02/02/2023 08:40

Totally agree with you. Rescues are full to bursting point and most of them refuse to consider PTS for a healthy dog. It would be much better to PTS those that are not safe in the community as it is unreasonable to expect any new owner to keep their dog away from other dogs, cats, other people etc.

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The vast majority of retired greyhounds should not be rehomed with cats or even small dogs. Are you suggesting that they should be all PTS?

Again, dogs that are not suitable to be rehomed with kids is because they have never lived with them. That does not mean they are a danger to them. My own dog would have the same write up if I had to rehome her.

It is quite easy to keep a dog away from cats, other dogs and people. It is called using a lead, and hiring private fields. Plenty of people manage fine doing that.

Floofyduffypuddy · 02/02/2023 09:59

Xeno bitch I had a small bichon dog. Having her turned out to be extremely stressful because of other dog's. She was bitten moment's after a sheep type dog the owner said "don't worry he's friendly" .

Inwas left with dogs jumping up at me because I had my dogs treat's etc.

Goingforasong · 02/02/2023 11:13

@XenoBitch The problem is that many owners of rescue dogs are not very responsible. I have found loose greyhounds in sheep fields more than once. Fortunately neither have been particularly problematic but they have obviously found some wildlife to chase and then become lost. If all owners were resposible, there wouldn't be a dog problem in this country.

Oysterbabe · 02/02/2023 12:28

An old friend had a greyhound and it killed the neighbours cat. The neighbours were absolutely devastated. She ended up paying for a funeral for the cat. I just don't see the point in having a dog like this over one which is calm and doesn't murder cats.

XenoBitch · 02/02/2023 20:44

Oysterbabe · 02/02/2023 12:28

An old friend had a greyhound and it killed the neighbours cat. The neighbours were absolutely devastated. She ended up paying for a funeral for the cat. I just don't see the point in having a dog like this over one which is calm and doesn't murder cats.

Where did it happen? If it was in the greyhound's garden then there not anything that can be done. Cat owners should be taking more responsibility. If you have a cat and you don't want it killed by a dog/car/whatever, then escape proof your garden.

Ex racers are trained to chase, and cat will be something they are interested in. My own greyhound (who was never raced) tears down the garden if she sees a cat. TBH, the cat that comes into my garden is a total asshole. He has actually tried to attack me, so I doubt my dog would harm him anyway.

If you genuinely think that greyhounds should all be PTS once they have entertained you enough on a night out at the dogs, then just fuck off.

Oysterbabe · 02/02/2023 20:47

No I think that greyhound racing should be banned and so then the problem of retired greyhounds disappears.
The cat was on the fence between gardens and the dog jumped and grabbed it.

XenoBitch · 02/02/2023 20:51

Oysterbabe · 02/02/2023 20:47

No I think that greyhound racing should be banned and so then the problem of retired greyhounds disappears.
The cat was on the fence between gardens and the dog jumped and grabbed it.

I do agree with your first point. Greyhounds are horribly exploited.

Cat owners should make an effort to keep them safe. It is not down to other people.

WiddlinDiddlin · 02/02/2023 21:04

You'd rid the world of a LOT of dogs if you wanted all the ones that would grab and harm or kill a cat euthanised, pretty much anything from a jack russell up might be inclined to do that, and breed is not the only factor involved. I've had terriers and hounds that would not and known gundogs and companion types that would.

I've also had sighthounds that were perfectly safe with their own cats but absolutely not safe with 'other' cats, and whilst it is possible to train them to ignore cats, it's not possible to train cats out and about not to ambush dogs from under cars and hedges - if you've never had to try and peel a furious cat from the wire muzzle and skin of a terrified greyhound, whilst one yowls and tries to deflesh and the other screams and tries to run, you won't understand what a hazard they can be!

Most of the loose 'greyhounds' running around fields in my area are not lost rescue pets who failed at recall with idiotic owners, but intentionally dumped coursing dogs, or dumped stolen dogs. Of course its very easy to lay the blame at the feet of rescue dog owners and there will always be the odd idiot, but they are not the main source of straying sighthounds in most rural areas!