Views on Rishi Sunak?

[BradfordGirl]

My view is he seems to be an incredibly weak and passive Prime Minister who is missing in action while the country faces crisis after crisis. We could have a cardboard cut out as Prime Minister and I doubt we would notice much difference.

He's a bright (academically) and has just realised all the dumb-dumbs in Westminster cannot even add 10+2 without using a calculator so he's decided (like all Indian parents often do to their children) that these folks need to have extra tuition and hence the plan for Maths to go up to 18. Other than that he's very well spoken and hard working unlike BoJo. Can he deliver? I'm not quite sure - I haven't seen anything credible so far.

I don’t think he’s extreme at all - if you look at spending in particular he spends a lot with direct payment to lowest incomes and WFT - but I don’t think it’s a done deal.

The wealthy wife media run damaged him, before that he was doing well. And yes the party is too for various reasons which means it lags behind his personal polling.

Some stuff goes down well with majority on polls (boats issue).

I prefer it because Starmer has random policies, Sunak’s are just plain and relatively straightforward.

Whether he can meet them, we’ll see. And if he does it still might not win.

@yellowmoosefever , (like all Indian parents often do to their children)
Generalisation.

I don’t want a US style system with off cycle electoral votes. It causes grid lock. HoL impressed me with maternity act speeches and was a stark contrast to playground HoC. It’s a good system of checks and balances. There is a good thread in FWR with many of downsides - have a look if you want more info

I prefer it because Starmer has random policies, Sunak’s are just plain and relatively straightforward

Because they lack any explanation of how he is going to achieve said policies.

This government has no real plans. It's all propaganda and false promises . They are simply biding their time to strip every penny possible from the public purse to redistribute to their donors pockets and back to theirs.
They don't care if people starve or freeze to death. They have no morals

THIS!!!

Does he bring any hope after dropping off the new budget to cut, cut and cut? I'm all for the things he says we shall do. But any plan? They've been nearly in hiding while the whole country falls apart. It's really easy to give promises. But promises shall always be given along with plans. Nothing!!!

The only people I know who seem to believe any of his 'aren't I a nice guy tosh' (learnt from Johnson) tend to be some old people who only get their current affairs from the BBC or those living in nice converted rectories in Oxfordshirexwith a paddock and ponies etc- who are still doing nicely thank you. For a guy who seems obsessed by Maths he was a bit lacking when it came to the practicalities of commerce and trade and Brexit but hey- it doesn't matter to him, if it went totally tits up he always had other options on tap plus access to the kind of cash that means you can live anywhere. In the meantime folks, the UK state is paying for him .

Ah, but the important thing is not achieving stated policies, but being able to announce the policy as many times as possible. How many times did Boris and his Chancellor (whatever happened to him?) announce those 40 new hospitals, winning policy that, never mind the implementation.

Are they the only two systems available? Having a US style system and an an elected house where members buy the ability to make laws?

They’re not that extreme that they can’t be done. So it’s see if he does.

It was the US system that was suggested. Are you for it?

Who suggested the US system?

I listen to Radio 4 and Times radio and it was discussed on there but google gives this blurb from The Times

6 Dec 2022 — Sir Keir Starmer's plans for an elected second chamber risk US-style “gridlock” and should not be a priority, Lord Blunkett ...

Anyway have a read around if you want to know more

Not saying I agree with her policies but Thatcher could get things done, that's for sure.

He will need to find a lot of maths teachers… schools are failing to recruit enough as it is! Many schools have non specialist teachers as it is. It’s a shit show.

That required a passion for what she believed and cared about.

Let's see if our "cool-headed", "measured" and "rather not saying anything but laying out long term goals" PM can deliver too...

Has anyone said what FPN is yet? I’m intrigued and can’t work it out.

Just another out of touch elite Tory type, what did anyone expect? They’re all interchangeable, greedy, smug, privileged and don’t give a shit about real people, as long as the richest are protected they’re doing their job

People were on those partygate threads endlessly, I didn’t care about it all as others did so I’m surprised at not remembering

Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs)

Oh shut up

Couldn't care less about his wife or the ND stuff, other than a conflict of interest, Fixed Penalty Notice - water under the bridge now but it does show he is a hypocrite, aren't they all.

He was a very hard core Brexitier and signed up to all the ERG stuff.
He is from the right of the party, that is where he is from, anti strike laws, refusing to even talk? thats extreme, even Thatcher never went that far.

I don't know what Tory policies are in Government, let alone Sunaks, what he said today was a wishlist, most would agree with all he said but he hasn't said the hows - he needs to carry NHS staff with him, he wont even talk.

Starmer doesn't need policies now, Tories would only pinch them, but he will soon as we get toward the next GE and the spotlight will shift.

Be good to see what KS has to say tomo.

Thanks Marsha. Obviously I’m going senile, I’d completely forgotten. Partygate feels so long ago now, it’s been a busy year politically.

Are there other laws you do not care about people breaking?

I don't get it when people kept going about this. Elites does not equal to selfishness, does it?

I don't like any of these Tory leaders, with Sunak hugely disappointed me. But surely, I'd ideally want someone who has decent education background and has accomplished in his chosen career to lead the country?

Integrity should be a must of course (even though it seems not being valued by majority of the public, judging by BJ's popularity).

But there's no fault to hope someone who's in a decent rank of the society to lead the causes of the country. There's no guarantee it would work, but I wouldn't want the other way round. Too risky and offers very little scope.