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Would you be okay with a 10 year old using the ladies?

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helpinghandinhisname · 30/12/2022 18:42

Accompanied by their carer obviously

The disabled toilet was locked, there were two and both weren't responding to the access key this poor woman had

She had a very clearly disabled boy with her. He was in need of a change and crying, ripping at her coat and trying to bite and scratch her. No verbal words, just very flight risky and tried bolting off a few times. He had what looked like toddler reins on but obviously not exactly toddler ones

I say age 10 but that's generous, he was probably about 11/12. As tall as the woman etc and she wasn't tiny

She gave up then after he successful did manage to bite into her arm and marched him into the ladies

My friend was tutting and looked ready to say something, pretty much doing that look as if she was about to speak if the woman looked in her direction

I said leave her be. She said it was disgusting she was bringing such an older child into the toilet when he wasn't a small child or under 8/9.

I said she was desperate, leave her be

She said 'whatever, it isn't right and I'm shocked you're standing for it'. It seemed to ruin the mood of our coffee out then and we haven't text since!

Would you be okay with a much older boy using a woman's toilet if they're with a carer?

Obviously, this isn't a trans argument and nobody 'identifying' as a woman should be using the ladies toilet.

This really isn't about that so I would appreciate if we could avoid that argument Blush

OP posts:
Sherrystrull · 30/12/2022 19:06

Iceballoon · 30/12/2022 18:52

Yes of course I would, I believe 10 is still too young for a boy (disabled or not) to go into the mens toilets alone.

This.

Cuppasoupmonster · 30/12/2022 19:06

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 30/12/2022 19:03

Wouldn’t bother me whatever age he was. I also wouldn’t be bothered by an non-disabled 10-year-old boy either.

I would. 10 is plenty old enough to use a toilet alone FGS Hmm

Orangesare · 30/12/2022 19:06

She did exactly the right thing taking him into the ladies.
I wouldn’t have a problem with any boy upto secondary school age in the ladies. I do have an issue with men who decide they want to women in the ladies.

Just think if all the time, money and energy that has been wasted pandering to men who want to be women had been spent making decent changing places toilets, family toilets and making more disabled toilets how much better it would be for everyone.

DaisyDando · 30/12/2022 19:07

What was she supposed to do? Poor woman. There should be better facilities for people who need them. I hope your friend now feels a twinge of shame.

Ofbollocks · 30/12/2022 19:07

I feel nothing but sympathy and admiration for the love she clearly had for him, and the patience. I don't see how anyone could really not be okay with this

I think you've answered your own question there, OP.
Your friend sounds horrible.

mum11970 · 30/12/2022 19:08

Agree with you totally. Your friend is a twat.

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 30/12/2022 19:09

Cuppasoupmonster · 30/12/2022 19:06

I would. 10 is plenty old enough to use a toilet alone FGS Hmm

For some, yes. It just wouldn’t bother me.

pinneddownbytabbies · 30/12/2022 19:09

I wouldn't have had an issue with them using the Ladies at all. Poor woman, and poor distressed child.

How anyone could feel anything less than compassion is beyond me.

LadyKenya · 30/12/2022 19:10

That would be the end of the friendship for me OP. I could not spend any time with someone so lacking in empathy. I would have absolutely no issue with the scenario you have described. Your friend was talking tripe in this instance.

SirGawain · 30/12/2022 19:10

Your friend needs to get some humanity. She's very mean spirited!

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 30/12/2022 19:11

But what about an equally disabled 14/16/21/35 yo?

Last Christmas Eve I had to stand at the door of the ladies and tell anyone going in there was a man in the disabled cubicle because of a similar scenario.

I have a disabled adult male relative who needs to the space of a disabled cubicle to transfer from their wheelchair and then needs the handrails to get back onto their chair.

Accessible loo out of order. No extra disabled cubicle in the men’s.

luckily the ladies was empty when we arrived, but two ladies did arrive while he was in. Thankfully both were absolutely fine and more outraged on his behalf that there wasn’t one in the men’s.

bibbif · 30/12/2022 19:12

The way some people treat disabled people is shocking.

Ibouncetothebeat · 30/12/2022 19:12

Iceballoon · 30/12/2022 18:52

Yes of course I would, I believe 10 is still too young for a boy (disabled or not) to go into the mens toilets alone.

I agree! I would not my 10 year old go in to a public men’s toilet alone. So the answer would be that he uses the ladies.

Beehiver · 30/12/2022 19:12

Well my daughter is 10 and although a girl this isn't an issue that would come up. However, she would rather (and does) pee herself than go to the toilet alone and she won't go in a toilet with me if she can hear the hand dryer on. If i had a boy the same age who needed the toilet then you gotta do what you gotta do. I think it's bit judgemental to think it's wrong, cos we're not all the same and kids struggle with different things. Some people who have kids who are relatively independent (for want of a better word) have no idea what it's like for others.

Lindy2 · 30/12/2022 19:13

Was your friend expecting her to go into the men's toilets?

It was much more appropriate for her to bring her disabled child into the female toilets with her.

Your friend doesn't sound very nice at all. This lady clearly already has a lot to deal with without your friend causing unnecessary fuss.

bibbif · 30/12/2022 19:14

Im asking because I've asked my sisters and although l they say they agree with me, they also say they do really get where my friend was coming from

I cannot see where she is coming from at all

Mrsuntidy · 30/12/2022 19:14

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Poor woman.

bluebeardswife7 · 30/12/2022 19:14

The only thing anyone should say in that situation is "Is there anyway I can be of help?"

FourTeaFallOut · 30/12/2022 19:14

Did this really happen or is it a fabricated morality story about women going too far with their boundaries for single sex spaces?

In any case, looks like it is only your friend with a problem.

Amipreg1 · 30/12/2022 19:15

I'd have no issue with this at all, disabled or not! A 10 year old child is just that, a child, and if accompanied by a mother/ female carer I honestly don't know what the problem is.
I wouldn't be sending my 10 Yr old into the men's by himself.

bluebeardswife7 · 30/12/2022 19:15

They probably don't need it but at least it shows support rather than judgement.

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 30/12/2022 19:17

Only a complete and utter moron would find something to complain about in that situation.

TribeD · 30/12/2022 19:17

Absolutely no problem with it at all. I would have a problem with your "friend" though. Has she heard of the word empathy?

usedtolovenaps · 30/12/2022 19:17

I would have no issue. What was the poor woman meant to do? Your friend was a meanie 😣

Trez1510 · 30/12/2022 19:18

FourTeaFallOut · 30/12/2022 19:14

Did this really happen or is it a fabricated morality story about women going too far with their boundaries for single sex spaces?

In any case, looks like it is only your friend with a problem.

This. There is a plethora of this type of thread on the main chat/AIBU boards.

I fear the transphobes in the Feminism - Gender Identity Issues are not receiving enough traffic to allow the prejudice to become 'accepted wisdom' to those who fall for any old crap that's designed to 'scare' them.

Although, the OPs 'sisters' could also see where her friend was coming from. 🙄