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I'm in shock.... work and schedule

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Tofuckwith2022 · 13/12/2022 09:48

I work as a nanny.
It's not a live in position.
My contract originally stated Monday to Friday work and some extrs will be required from time to time at weekends.
I will need to root through my files and dig it out and read the wording exactly because it's been a while since I read it.

I am in an awful position now.

I feel like the parents are doing a number on me. There's a special needs child in the family and over the past few years they started relying on me more and more and for stepping in and giving them respite so that they can take care.
The respite stuff was never in a contract. At first it used to be 5 or 7 days and it was a holiday locally within the country. The parents would organise other care too to give me time off. Over the past year they have increased the holidays but decreased the other care too. Or the team of people that they relied on so much stepped back a lot.

So they got a holiday last year. It was originally supposed to be for 10 days but then they turned it into 14 days. I did have people come and go to help me.

Then they got another break away during the mid term break in October. I felt a lot of people who helped previously stepped back. There was only one other lady who hardly turned up.
I would be up from 5 or 6 o clock in the morning with the child and the the other lady mightn't even come til late in the afternoon or the early evening. It was just too much of a long spell for me.

Usually these spells take a lot out of me. Usually it will be a regular work week and then I come into a weekend and then the the stint might start and happen then and then it will often be another week or two by the time I get a day off and then it's back to another regular week and often it can be weeks by the time I sniff any sort of a weekend off. You know, like what many other workers are entitled to after working all week? Then there is the work itself too. Often I end up neglecting something as simple as my oral hygiene like going to bed at night time and just falling into bed without using my toothbrush. It depends on the day and I many hours I am expected to keep going for. A shower might be once or twice a week.

The real kicker was that I was never paid appropriately for that Halloween stint. I got paid my normal weekly wage but nothing extra. I was pretty much 24/7

They have other workers coming and going too.
They must be away nearly every single weekend.
There has been back to back Christmas parties this week with no break in their schedules and no break in mine either.

I never really signed up for work like this.

Basically I was told about next summers plans. One of the parents said it while their were rushing pass me.
They booked a 10 day holiday abroad.

They never even asked me or consulted with me. They just dumped it on me and feel entitled to 24/7 work out of me. The parent dressed it up very nice as a lively opportunity and they will organise extra cover for me during that time.i wasn't even asked. I was just told it and I have to accept it.
That's the situation.
I am actually in shock of what I was confronted with.
I know when the time comes, I will be lucky if I get any other help at all. Or help will be limited.

I have a few different issues with all of this.

  1. I feel 10 days is too much. Whats wrong with 6 or 7 days?
  2. I have my own plans for next summer. These are important plans. Does she expect me to literally piss on my family to serve her family?
  3. other people who have helped her in the past have stepped back a lot. I think maybe they see a lot from them and they see their outings and holidays and breaks away as excessive. This brings me into another situation in that - the majority of those 10 days of work will be on my back. If I get a sleepless night, it doesn't matter I will be expected just to get up and continue work
  4. payment - will I even get paid? Probably not. Or they will do a number. What's the point in working 24/7 if I will get better hours and pay working in Tesco or aldi.
  5. I have a health condition now too. I don't want to write about it but it does cause sickness and flares. I already had three flares this year. The parents know about my health issue. What if I get sick? They won't care. They will be away on their holier for 10 days or more. If I get sick - what happens? Who do I fall back on? Or am I suspected to neglect my health and ignore a flare until I die in work.
  6. back to point 1, 10 days is just too much.

They feel entitled to 10 days because its a milestone birthday. I think it's ridiculous. I have important plans next summer but they don't matter. Its so much more than a birth.

OP posts:
Tessabelle74 · 14/12/2022 17:49

Just quit

nannykatherine · 14/12/2022 17:56

As a nanny myself of many years
I have only one word of advice Quit!!!!
You are not happy with any of this arrangement
You need to have discussed these points with the family as they arose .
i found out after six years working for a family that I couldn’t get sick myself
As they ditched me
that’s after six years of no sick days
all they want is someone to look after their kids but as soon as you get sick or have issue in your own family then kick you in the gutter !!!
don’t give up your own life for these ungrateful families …
i know nannies are quitting in droves because of the way they are treated so good luck finding great Nannies in future everyone !

GUARDIAN1 · 14/12/2022 17:59

I don't understand how you haven't left already. Make a new job your priority and don't feel you owe them loads of notice.

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PersilPower · 14/12/2022 18:03

This is modern day slavery. These people have brainwashed you into thinking this is “normal.” It’s not.

Tusue · 14/12/2022 18:19

LEAVE IMMEDIATELY they are treating you as a modern day slave, they have no respect for you.
onwards and upwards for you please don’t wait .

IWantAShitzu · 14/12/2022 18:21

This whole thread has made me feel sick. This is abusive and I’m certain that the hours they are making you work is illegal.

Some of your comments have worried me, I really hope you didn’t go back and that you’ve seen your GP. Sending you a massive hug ❤️

ICanHideButICantRun · 14/12/2022 18:28

I don't understand you though, OP. Once your boss is home, just put your coat on and say "Right, I'm off now."

janglealltheway · 14/12/2022 18:29

Lots of nurseries are desperate for staff, have a look and get applying. You do not have to put up with this crap!

amonsteronthehill · 14/12/2022 18:37

Invoice them for all the hours you haven't been paid properly for. Itemize and list every single one.

THey are taking the piss.

Then find a better job.

ThistleTits · 14/12/2022 18:43

@Tofuckwith2022 are you tied to this job in some other way? Family? Immigration? Anything along these lines.
They are absolutely taking you as a fool. Do not bother trying to negotiate a new contract with them, they won't adhere to it and you won't be any further along.
As others have said, look for another post, strictly work your notice (9 to 5). Don't look back.

Fladdermus · 14/12/2022 18:46

Bloody hell OP, this is shocking. How have you tolerated this for so long. They are absolutely taking the piss. Get yourself signed off sick and use the time to find another job. Never go back to these abusive fuckers.

niugboo · 14/12/2022 18:50

Are you PAYE?

fionaapple · 14/12/2022 18:54

How are you meant to have hobbies, relationships, friendships etc when you are a slave to this family and won't say no to any of their ridiculous demands? You need to strongly advise they pay you for the hours you're owed and then quit, not forgetting to give this couple a few home truths on your way out.

rosemarysalter · 14/12/2022 18:57

What is the reason you haven't yet resigned?

momtoboys · 14/12/2022 19:00

Taking the piss.

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60smusic · 14/12/2022 19:09

Holy crap, this is awful.

I hope you've either signed off sick or left.

I've a disabled dd and trust me, the cost of professional help is extremely high, what you are doing is way above what you should be doing. It is a lot even if there was no child with special needs.

I wonder if you are aware that you are being exploited?

You can and should get another job. Don't worry about certain sectors laying off people, there's always some sort of work out there. You've had a really bad experience with this family, I bet you'd be so much happier if you were with a better family, don't write off child care yet, especially if you enjoy it.

Janbohonut · 14/12/2022 19:11

They sound like absolute assholes.
Agree - start looking for work, polish up your CV and get out.
You'll have lots of better opportunities.

BajaBaja · 14/12/2022 19:12

The fact they’re not paying for extra hours is enough to walk away.
As someone who working in childcare too, my advice is to call acas for advice.
Then plan your exit. They are taking advantage of you and because you aren’t saying anything they will take even more advantage in the future.

ivykaty44 · 14/12/2022 19:18

Yeah, I am going to work on my CV over Christmas and leave after Christmas.

if you want another job, there are plenty of nanny jobs as there is a shortage of nannies. Agencies will bite your hand off, even au pairs are in short supply.

but, if you don't want another job - then just tell them that the overtime is not going to continue and as nannies are in short supply they had better think twice about sacking you as youre good at your job butt hey are taking the piss

not only are they taking the piss, but they may, might be breaking the law as your hours are such that the minimum wage is not being adhered to and that comes with a fine if you report them

AlbertaAnnie · 14/12/2022 19:25

You need to sit them down and be back paid for the work already under taken then set out a new contact with clear expectations going forward - if this isn’t a option time for a new job! They are taking the piss!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/12/2022 19:40

OP, have you come to the UK illegally? Or are stuck here now unable to earn enough money to return home? You don't mention a salary, or an agency. I am worried for you.

Cantbebotheredwithausername · 14/12/2022 19:42

OP, kindly, you'd do better in literally ANY other job. You're struggling badly, and for a very good reason. The ONLY thing that makes this different from regular slavery is that you have the option of walking out. Please do it, for your own sake.

This isn't about whether or not a 10 day holiday away from your child is reasonable. This is about making you work at all hours, through the night without proper rest, and without the option of taking any vacation time for yourself at all - and without any overtime pay.

You care about the child, I'm sure, but you're not doing them any favours, either. A special needs child can't rely on parents who are barely there and ONE over-worked, exhausted child-minder.

You can apply anywhere - working as a cashier in a grocery store would be easier, you'd get a proper lunch break, and you'd get paid when you pick up extra shifts.

I really hope the best for you. Please leave that job and take care of yourself. Remember, you're not hurting the child, just their very unreasonable parents.

mumwon · 14/12/2022 19:54

op take this as a learning curve.
When you get your next job make sure they have the number of hours you work each day in your contract an exactly what your job entails
keep a daily note of hours you work AND MAKE THEM SIGN IT each day
any extra work (and you should only be washing child's clothes not the parents and only the child's meals not the parents etc unless they want to pay you extra. Hours before and after certain time should have extra pay ditto Saturdays and Sundays.
and stick to it
but get new job first

fortheloveofflowers · 14/12/2022 20:02

They are massively taking the piss and no doubt breaking the law.

Just quit, there are so many jobs out there. If not nannying then care work.

You should have pulled them up on the first time they pulled this shit!

I'd be reporting them so they don't do it to someone else.

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