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The bit at the end of Titanic when Rose is back on the ship

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Blocked · 03/12/2022 22:42

You know the very very end bit where she dies an old lady in bed and as she drifts off she's back on the Titanic. When she walks into the ship again Trudy is still dressed as her maid and little Cora is still dressed in little more than rags. I feel bad that they all those people have to spend eternity on the Titanic as staff and third class passengers while Rose swans around in her evening gown snogging Leonardo dicaprio Confused

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BenchOfCompany · 05/12/2022 16:14

I love this movie too much, but James Cameron himself has said the script says Jack dies so he has to die, maybe we screwed up and the board should have been a tiny bit smaller but the dudes going down. Grin

On another note I am sure I have seen a James Cameron documentary where he and others who explored Titanic work out if there was any way to save the passengers at all with hindsight. And he thinks they could have, something about if they had put the boat into reverse which means the boat doesn't fill with water as quickly and put everyone onto an ice flat they had passed. Haunting, truly haunting.

I don't like either ending, the one they used where she drops the heart into the ocean or the alternative where there are witnesses to her doing it. I would like to think that she handed the heart over. That way her story lives on with the picture and the heart in a museum.

The music score for this film is just beautiful.

WestwardHo1 · 05/12/2022 16:24

BenchOfCompany · 05/12/2022 16:14

I love this movie too much, but James Cameron himself has said the script says Jack dies so he has to die, maybe we screwed up and the board should have been a tiny bit smaller but the dudes going down. Grin

On another note I am sure I have seen a James Cameron documentary where he and others who explored Titanic work out if there was any way to save the passengers at all with hindsight. And he thinks they could have, something about if they had put the boat into reverse which means the boat doesn't fill with water as quickly and put everyone onto an ice flat they had passed. Haunting, truly haunting.

I don't like either ending, the one they used where she drops the heart into the ocean or the alternative where there are witnesses to her doing it. I would like to think that she handed the heart over. That way her story lives on with the picture and the heart in a museum.

The music score for this film is just beautiful.

I'd read it would have been better for them to put the ship into reverse to slow it a little and hit the iceberg head on. Yes there would have been awful injuries and loss of life but the damage would have remained at the bow of the vessel and it would have remained afloat.

They were just going too fast - you can't turn a ship that size going that fast.

All easy to say with hindsight.

Decafflatteplease · 05/12/2022 16:29

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 03/12/2022 23:21

Seems very idiotic to chuck the diamond in the sea. Why? She could sell it and give money away instead

Cash Converters.

Could have sold it and paid for 10 mins of heating with that diamond at today's prices 😂😱

angharadsgoat · 05/12/2022 16:34

You may be right! @DigitalTranny

I can't remember

notimagain · 05/12/2022 16:42

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/12/2022 11:26

I might be being really dim here, but if the freezing point of water is 0 degrees, how come the water they were in was still liquid at -2.2? Does the freezing point change if there's lots of water?

How come a load of it had managed to turn into an iceberg, which they then hit, causing the ship to sink; but the majority of the same body of water remained liquid and was easily sailed in?

Salt content changes freezing point.

In any event the iceberg wouldn't have formed in the area where the collision happened, it will have formed up north, possibly as part of one of the Greenland glaciers, then split (?calved) off and floated south, possibly gently melting, possibly not. As an aside the accident / sinking actually happened much further south than many people think.

Agree with a couple of comments above about the chances of clambering aboard anything once you've entered water at that temperature wearing normal clothes...you'll lose use of fingers, ability to grip etc within seconds or minutes, and end up physically and mentally incapacitated very quickly.

Papergirl1968 · 05/12/2022 18:51

I hate that silly little squeal old Rose gives as she throws the necklace into the sea.
I never got why she threw it in anyway!

Cuppasoupmonster · 05/12/2022 19:23

Romance, symbolism and nuance is well and truly dead on MN isn’t it? Ive never known such a bunch of pedants 😂

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 05/12/2022 19:27

I found the theory interesting that Titanic was swapped for another ship, the Olympic, that was nearing the end of its useful life, in an insurance scam.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/12/2022 20:35

Interesting article on Reuters debunking this theory

Have they debunked the theory that it was deliberate/planned or that it actually happened at all?

Papergirl1968 · 05/12/2022 20:57

Maybe we're just practical, Cuppasoup!

Cuppasoupmonster · 05/12/2022 21:12

No room for practicality in fiction!

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 21:19

I always find it funny when she walks into the grand staircase at the end to kiss Jack and her fiance is standing in the gallery above watching 😂

FitYeDaeinYeMadRadge · 05/12/2022 21:33

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 21:19

I always find it funny when she walks into the grand staircase at the end to kiss Jack and her fiance is standing in the gallery above watching 😂

Bugger me I have never noticed him 😮

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 05/12/2022 21:38

It always wound me up that she threw that diamond into the sea, so many other things she could have done with it and people/charities that could have benefited from it.

Dd and I always laugh at the bit where Rose says 'I'll never let go Jack' whilst literally letting him sink to the bottom of the sea 😂 poor Jack.

She definitely dies at the end and yy to putting your kids to bed and giving up 🙄 I would have thrown my dd onto a lifeboat if needed.

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 21:40

Yeah he's up on the gallery looking quite glum as she walks in. They don't pan to him to see if he joins in the clapping or not though.

3luckystars · 05/12/2022 21:42

some man shouted ‘Jack frost’ at the cinema during that scene in the water.

it’s really good , I’m going to watch it again this weekend!

Beachsidesunset · 05/12/2022 21:46

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 21:19

I always find it funny when she walks into the grand staircase at the end to kiss Jack and her fiance is standing in the gallery above watching 😂

Are you sure? There are several men in tuxedos with similar hair styles, but I'm not sure any of them are Cal.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 05/12/2022 21:56

I thought the people in the ballroom of the Titanic were just those who'd died there.

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 22:00

100% he is there above in the gallery. Search for the scene on YouTube and keep an eye on the gallery above as she first walks in. He is standing at the front of the gallery.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 05/12/2022 22:16

You mean this man?

The bit at the end of Titanic when Rose is back on the ship
Beachsidesunset · 05/12/2022 22:20

RocketIceLollie · 05/12/2022 22:00

100% he is there above in the gallery. Search for the scene on YouTube and keep an eye on the gallery above as she first walks in. He is standing at the front of the gallery.

This one? That's not Cal.

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Blocked · 05/12/2022 22:48

Aww Mr Andrews Sad

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ScotlandEuropa · 05/12/2022 22:53

Yeah Rose’s actual husband was done dirty.

ShillyShallySherbet · 05/12/2022 23:20

I thought she accidentally dropped the necklace into the ocean at the end… she kind of gasps as she does it doesn’t she?

angharadsgoat · 06/12/2022 01:55

I've cut and pasted from Wikipedia. DigitalTranny was right about the course of events. Though I still think Jack stood a vaguely better chance had Rose stayed put on the lifeboat.

"Cal has Lovejoy slip the necklace into Jack's pocket to frame him for theft. Jack is then confined in the master-at-arms' office. Cal then puts the necklace into his own overcoat pocket.
With the ship sinking, Rose flees Cal and her mother, who has boarded a lifeboat. Rose finds and frees Jack, and they barely make it back to the boat deck. Cal and Jack urge Rose to board a lifeboat. Having arranged to save himself, Cal falsely claims he can get Jack safely off the ship. As her lifeboat is lowered, Rose, unable to abandon Jack, jumps back on board. Cal grabs Lovejoy's pistol and chases Rose and Jack into the flooding first-class dining saloon. They get away, and Cal realizes that he gave his coat, and consequently the necklace, to Rose; he later boards a lifeboat posing as a lost child's father"