The bit at the end of Titanic when Rose is back on the ship

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You know the very very end bit where she dies an old lady in bed and as she drifts off she's back on the Titanic. When she walks into the ship again Trudy is still dressed as her maid and little Cora is still dressed in little more than rags. I feel bad that they all those people have to spend eternity on the Titanic as staff and third class passengers while Rose swans around in her evening gown snogging Leonardo dicaprio

He was very cold and wet tbf

Sooty to be a doom-monger but...
They had been running round in freezing water for about an hour before the ship went down. Even on the door there is way Rose would have made it through the night!

You don't think so? I suppose it would have been bloody freezing before adding the sea into the mix.

It's been years since I watched it but didn't she paddle to get the whistle after Jack died then start blowing it? Why not do that before ?

I may have misremembered events to add!

Yep, the whole disaster was her fault imo.

Seriously? Have you ever spent time in ice-cold water? Go try it. You become almost paralysed and stiff, you can’t move. I’ve been in cold water (though not even icy) for a prolonged period (and no it wasn’t summertime when cold water is refreshing) and it’s unpleasant enough from the neck down but the moment you submerge your head too, it’s a whole new level of unpleasant. Breathing becomes uncontrollable and erratic. Apparently it also puts a strain on your heart as it pumps faster to keep you warm, so it’s bad news for the old and frail and those who have heart problems.
Waist level cold water is piece of cake, but when you go deeper….

And if Rose had stayed on the lifeboat, Jack could have had the piece of wood, and they could have met up later

Apparently the water was -2.2 degrees. You can't even think when you're immersed in water that cold let alone function. It's not like clambering back onto the inflatable banana when you've fallen off it in the Med.

No because if she had stayed on the lifeboat it’s unlikely he would’ve ended up in exactly the same spot some 1 hour later where the wood was.

Loads of bits of wood, though, with a boat as big as that – he’d have found another. It was his insistence on hanging around that was the problem. Read the room, Jack!

I might be being really dim here, but if the freezing point of water is 0 degrees, how come the water they were in was still liquid at -2.2? Does the freezing point change if there's lots of water?

How come a load of it had managed to turn into an iceberg, which they then hit, causing the ship to sink; but the majority of the same body of water remained liquid and was easily sailed in?

I think the freezing poijt of salt water is lower...... [runs off to google... avoiding meeting with boss...... ] yep it depends on the amount of salt but is circa -1.8 degrees.

Forget the dream scene at the end. I’m still pissed off about the piece of floating wooden board thingy in the water and how Rose totally hogged it, leaving Jack in the freezing Atlantic.

I seem to recall seeing that there was a whole BBC radio programme dedicated to exploring why it wouldn't have worked if Rose had just budged up a bit!

Ah, thanks, WinterLobelia.

Annoys me that she dies and goes back to the ship and a bloke she had a fling with, 80-odd years ago. Not a thought for her husband, kids, grandkids...? Bah.

Wouldn’t that make a great AIBU! ‘…to wish when I die I am reunited with a fling from 90 years ago rather than my hubby?’

‘YABU. You only knew that fling a few days - he could’ve been physically or financially abusive had he stuck around longer. As for the sex in a car, sounds very seedy - it’s clear he was just using you’

I found this film so romantic as a pre-teen when it came out. Rewatched in my twenties and found it historically interesting despite the inaccuracies and the cringey moments. But now as mother of three under 7s with an exclusively working-class background I feel stricken with horror for those mothers in steerage unable to protect their babies and children from an horrific death. It’s just devastating to think of, unbearable. I feel like I could endure anything but a situation like that where I couldn’t save my children, couldn’t protect them from that terrifying horror and suffering. How could any man or old person have got in a life boat knowing there were children aboard? Most men did the decent thing, including millionaire’s like Ben Guggenheim. Interestingly there is a very compelling theory that it was sunk deliberately, I watched a bunch of videos about it last year and the circumstances were extraordinarily suspicious. Sometimes I think we are better off not knowing the truth about some things, it’s too dark - I’d rather take refuge in James Cameron’s story!

Yes. Easy to idealise someone like that who you'd known for just a few days, and who'd died tragically in your presence.

Re. the piece of wood.
I think if she had stayed in the lifeboat initially Jack might have slightly*had more chance of survival as his concern was making sure she survived, which should have been unnecessary as she already had a place in a boat.

Though I don't know how many people did survive who didn't get a place in a boat, if any. I saw a documentary years ago where it was talked about but remember very little.

Interestingly there is a very compelling theory that it was sunk deliberately, I watched a bunch of videos about it last year and the circumstances were extraordinarily suspicious.

Whether deliberate or not, it certainly did work out remarkably well for those determined to bring in the Federal Reserve Act that some extremely powerful opponents to it died on the Titanic.

This made me laugh out loud!

Interesting article on Reuters debunking this theory - www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-titanic-conspiracy-idUSL1N2LF18G

Absolutely this!

Like fuck would I meekly just put my children to bed, knowing they were going to die, but accepting it because we were poor. I'd have got my DDs into a lifeboat, or died trying.

Agree @peaceandove . It makes me cry and shout at the same time.

DH rages against why people were not ripping up everything wooden they could find to hold on to. The ship was filled with wooden things- tables; benches etc. I know it's easy in hindsight though to think of what to do. And as pointed out- the sea was freezing.

Note: There were 109 children on the Titanic, of whom just 56 survived. Of the fatalities, there was a single child victim in first class, none in second class, whilst in third class 52 children lost their lives.

Though I think, as pps, I'd have tried to get them into a lifeboat all the same.

Having looked up people who went into the sea the number surviving was minuscule. Jack probably wouldn't have survived, though I still think he stood a better chance without Rose.

But Rose jumped out of the life boat because she knew fully well her nasty fiancée wanted to kill Jack, remember? Mr Nasty Fiancée had Jack chained onto a pipe at the very bottom of the boat and Rose had to rescue him…at least that’s the way I remember it. Someone correct me though ifI’m wrong! I saw Titanic 2-3 times but a long time ago.
Damn…now I have to go and watch it again.