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Rich in law's ruin Xmas spirit with stinginess: Coping strategies please.

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ChristmasJoysuckers · 03/12/2022 08:14

Growing up we were not poor but certainly cash poor for many years and yet DP decorated the house beautifully, good music, a feast of food and some presents. Nothing excessive or wow but it was all wonderful.
Eg a book about insects, monopoly game and a Barbie and some chocolate and a basic stocking with pencils etc.

It all felt different, special and grand. Since then I've had very frugal xmasses in all sorts of reduced circumstance places with no gift's, basic food etc but the feeling was cheery and happy.

I can't get my head around in law's version of Xmas and my dp are overseas and we see them at other times of the year but not Xmas.

In law's are v v comfortably off and I actually find going there depressing.
They seem to want everything they do to be "better" and we have to admire mils tree like it's the best ( it isn't).
She will serve Sainsbury's canapés but makes out like she's really spoiling us ( I've seen her really pull stop's out for business clients and she would make stuff or buy Waitrose/ m and s).
I'm very happy with Sainsbury's or Tesco party food and serve it to my guest mixed in with homemade or something higher end but I don't sort of serve it as if I'm doing my guests a massive favour.

She keeps to a very strict budget of I reckon between 20 / 50 pounds. I'm very grateful for anyone buying me a gift but it sort of ruins it when she proudly states how she got our gifts reduced from x or 3 for 2 Argos etc.

She always refers back to how she saved money on them , eg one year a shaving travel kit for DH and a similar set from boots for me and she proudly tells us how it was buy one get one half price.

For the DC one was given a sticker book with some sticker sheets missing and she says she got a reduction because of that.

She spends far more on her own parents and sister and I'm sure her nieces and nephews.

When we eat there she will again look sad and say how she had to buy us food from a wholesaler or how she got it reduced.

I've seen her spend on herself though and buys the finest clothes and food for herself.

Of course it's her business what she does with her money but what I mean she she can splurge where she wants too.

When we give her and fil gift's they are very comfortable to say what they don't like but we are on a truly tight budget.

It's the tone and atmosphere that gets me ,there is no music I'm very easy to please actually and have spent very lean xmasses for many years. I would be very happy at in law's if I didn't feel I had to profusely thank mil for gift's she's literally brought straining every sinew to save money on. Praise her to the high heaven's for basic supermarket party food?
The spirit of Xmas doesn't seem to be there at all. I think money is a huge theme with them anyway, but it feels like they are always modelling how to save money?
DH and I have a tight budget all year, we have too and at Xmas I like to feel comfortable, we save for Xmas and I don't want to talk about saving money or be made to feel guilty because we went for a nicer turkey etc?

How do I get through it? It feels totally against Xmas?

OP posts:
pinkstripeycat · 03/12/2022 08:18

Stay at home.

Doidontimmm · 03/12/2022 08:18

Just don’t go? Agree no adult presents.

Shortpoet · 03/12/2022 08:19

Do you have to go there? Can’t you have a nice Christmas just the two of you at home?

Your DH is probably used to a dreary Christmas but could you persuade home to stay at home this year and you can create a lovely Christmas for two.

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HelpMeCope85 · 03/12/2022 08:21

Wow I just wouldn’t go or invite them to yours and have the Xmas you want?

Janieread · 03/12/2022 08:24

Don't go. But also accept that people do Christmas differently. My FIL always talked about the price of everything and I used to hate it. He died a few weeks ago and I'll miss those comments on Christmas Day!

EllaPaella · 03/12/2022 08:26

She sounds awful. There's no generosity there, neither financially (not so important) or emotionally. She's only having you all there because she feels like it's what she 'ought' to do rather than because she wants to. I would definitely be opting out of a visit this year, how depressing.

NatalieIsFreezing · 03/12/2022 08:27

You sound quite snobbish about what she chooses to buy. You clearly do care where things come from or what they cost when it's her so why not be honest about that?

Maybe she feels like she doesn't want to show anyone up which is why she tries to show she didn't overspend?

Incomplete sticker book is crap, I agree, but genuinely I have no idea where my mil buys her food.

Gunpowder · 03/12/2022 08:27

Ugh it sounds miserable. What does your DH think? I’d want to stay at home too.

btw my sister and I taste tested all the supermarket canapés in the name of research in case we were being snobby and the waitrose and m&s ones are much nicer.

STARCATCHER22 · 03/12/2022 08:28

NatalieIsFreezing · 03/12/2022 08:27

You sound quite snobbish about what she chooses to buy. You clearly do care where things come from or what they cost when it's her so why not be honest about that?

Maybe she feels like she doesn't want to show anyone up which is why she tries to show she didn't overspend?

Incomplete sticker book is crap, I agree, but genuinely I have no idea where my mil buys her food.

This.
Why does it matter where the canapés are from?!

HelpMeCope85 · 03/12/2022 08:29

M&S canapés are the tastiest btw

NoDairyNoProblem · 03/12/2022 08:30

100% break this horrible tradition now and stay home.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 03/12/2022 08:31

Do you have to spend Christmas with them every year?

KimWexlersPonyTail · 03/12/2022 08:32

For myself, as an adult, Christmas is just one day and shouldn't be just about food and presents. I don't really get all the fuss required if there are no children involved, maybe I am just a grinch though!

Gunpowder · 03/12/2022 08:33

Of course it’s ok to save money and serve the cheaper thing, but it’s a bit rich to act simultaneously as if OP is a poor relation who should be grateful for her Mil’s largesse.

OP maybe you should take some M&S canapés and say something like ‘I know you don’t normally stretch to these, but as it’s Christmas I thought we should treat ourselves!’

Hopefully she won’t save them in the fridge for her smart guests.

Penguinsaregreat · 03/12/2022 08:34

If you really have to go there then speak to her the way she speaks to you.
The next time she gives dd such a crap, pointless present don’t go overboard. Just don’t comment.

NoDairyNoProblem · 03/12/2022 08:34

NatalieIsFreezing · 03/12/2022 08:27

You sound quite snobbish about what she chooses to buy. You clearly do care where things come from or what they cost when it's her so why not be honest about that?

Maybe she feels like she doesn't want to show anyone up which is why she tries to show she didn't overspend?

Incomplete sticker book is crap, I agree, but genuinely I have no idea where my mil buys her food.

I read it as a 2 tier system of finest everything for the majority of guests and a basic alternative for OP’s family visits.
If my MIL gave lovely artisan biscuits to everyone else and smart price custard creams to us I would feel a bit put out after a few examples.

Nothingbuttheglory · 03/12/2022 08:35

Are you sure she's as well off as you think?

user1471538283 · 03/12/2022 08:36

Don't go. They sound mean minded and joyless. Life is too short to not eat nice things on Christmas day.

Penguinsaregreat · 03/12/2022 08:36

My ex fil was like this. He thought nothing of berating the gifts we bought him, yet if anyone spoke like that to him he would seeth and sulk. So glad I never have to see him now.

ChristmasJoysuckers · 03/12/2022 08:36

The intent is surely the difference when I've brought or served the same brand canapés.
I have brought the same brand but I don't serve them like she does.
She does it like she's doing us this massive favour.

Interesting that people think we shouldn't go.
When we have tried not to go a few year's ago it caused a massive upset unfortunately.

When we tried to host one year it also ruined Xmas because mil made out she would have been able to get everything much cheaper and when fil made a nice comment about the decor or food she glared at him 🤣.

His dsis is the same, I don't know if she will be there this year but she is also on the major Xmas frugal wagon.

OP posts:
StickofVeg · 03/12/2022 08:38

I can't get my head around in law's version of Xmas and my dp are overseas and we see them at other times of the year but not Xmas.

But if you don't see them at Xmas does it matter? Just do your own thing - whatever makes it special for you, and don't worry about them.

AutumnCrow · 03/12/2022 08:40

How do you know what she serves to business clients - that's literally her business anyway, isn't it? I don't see how her relationship with her business clients has anything to do with you, tbh. I'd hate to think my DiL was judging me on the way I interacted with my freelance clients.

I agree it's possible she's trying to downplay her expenditure, albeit in a clumsy way in your eyes. Are you not close enough to have some banter about it?

Goldbar · 03/12/2022 08:44

Stay at home and send her a sudoku book with some pages already filled in for Christmas.

Ihavekids · 03/12/2022 08:45

She'll be expensing costs for clients I'm sure.
But if it's that miserable just don't go! I don't understand all the moaning on here about things that are completely under your control. Just don't visit, then say you'll maybe consider it next year instead. Or insist on them coming over, stick on the music and serve what you want. Life is too short.

Allschoolsareartschools · 03/12/2022 08:47

Oh I feel your pain! I've got a stingy MIL who is actually very comfortable but seems absolutely terrified of spending any money.
SIL also comfortable but takes 'bargains' to the next level. Dds would always receive gifts that had been in her cupboard for years. I think my favourite was an art set where everything was dried up!
The 2 of them together are awful. MIL will tell SIL not to open a bottle wine & save it as we don't need it & she mustn't waste it!
Believe me, wine is needed with them!! I soon stopped visiting at Christmas.
Just stay home, life's too short for this.