Thread 19 From Trussterfuck to Sunakered

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And so it continues

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@ancientgran voters over 65 High the highest turnout (c. 80%) andare most likely to vote conservative (c. 60%)

www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-findings/age-and-voting-behaviour-at-the-2019-general-election/#.Y5EC5KSnxPw

20% of the population are aged over 65

You actually said, "Yeah - sorry. It was shorthand for the over 70 demographic where most Tory voters are found."

Most over 70s might vote Tory, that doesn't mean most Tory voters are over 70.

You say yourself that 20% of the population are over 65 so clearly less than 20% are over 70, it is more like 13%. There were approx 47.5 million people of voting age in the UK for the 2019 GE, the Tories got 14 m votes, if less than 13% are over 70 the absolute maximum Tory votes from over 70s if every one of them voted and they all voted Tory would have been 6.2 m votes so less than half of the 14m Tory votes. Of course they didn't all vote, people like my relative with dementia, and they didn't all vote Tory, like my DH, my siblings, their partners etc.

Clearly the Tories found most of their votes in the under 70s. Not surprising if 87% of voters are under 70. I wish we could get rid of this fallacy about the over 70s being responsible for the Tory win.

I googled the figures so can't swear to their accuracy but they seemed like reliable sources.

EXCL: Sunak plans blue light strike ban bill for 2nd week of Jan

Ambulance + fire brought into line with cops and prison guards

Minimum service on transport too - but other sectors added by SI

Thresholds and strike lead time to be dramatically hiked

More: any credible pay offer made by employers will have to be put to union membership by law, and the threshold for strike votes is to be raised.

And notice of action will be upped from 14 to 28 days under the new proposed a trade union reform bill.

twitter.com/mrharrycole/status/1600613301628583936?s=46&t=ZU6MQwneC768qM5FfY16iA

Harry Cole acting as Government spokesperson.

Fascinating that they actually raised the strike action thresholds as recently as 2017. It's easier leverage than engaging with working peoples concerns.

#Breaking The Conservatives have removed the whip from MP Julian Knight after a complaint was made to the Metropolitan Police, a spokeswoman for chief whip Simon Hart said

twitter.com/pa/status/1600621114048258063?s=46&t=ZU6MQwneC768qM5FfY16iA

Meanwhile Mone and husband have been investigated by National Crime Agency since what April? No whip removed. Beginning to think she had dirt on somebody.

People aged 39 or over are more likely to vote Tory than Labour.

I wonder if the whip would have removed this fast if it wasn't for Labour.

Senior Labour MP Conor McGinn, who had played a key role in getting party ready for next general election, has whip suspended after complaint.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/07/labour-mp-conor-mcginn-has-whip-suspended-over-complaint

Putin will be proud...

Ah, but imagine if Corbyn was in charge….

it's a year since that video with Allegra Stratton & staff giggling about the socially distanced parties (that werent parties of course). What a bloody mad year in British politics even by our standards.

Correction - not a mad year in British politics. A wasted year of little to no business getting done because the Tories were busy with their internal struggles.

And now the government will open a new coal mine

Flagship government policy.
Open one coal mine, that'll solve all the problems they have created....

Spot on.

inews.co.uk/opinion/michael-goves-approval-of-a-new-coal-mine-is-a-backwards-step-for-our-climate-and-steel-industry-2014441

There are only two potential customers for this coal in the UK: Tata Steel and British Steel. Yet Chris McDonald, chief executive of the Materials Processing Institute, said earlier this year: “British Steel have said they cannot use the coal from this mine because the sulphur levels are too high. Tata Steel have said if the coal were available, then they may or may not use a small amount. There isn’t anyone in the steel industry who’s calling for the mine.”

So who is calling for the mine, which donors?

The donor will presumably become clear when they become a Lord.

I was assuming it was for power generation tbh.

Cumbria coal mine. Here’s what is universally agreed and accepted by all parties involved : 1 this has zero to do with your energy and fuel bills - it’s about coking coal for steelmaking …

So the coal mine is for steel working but neither British Steel or Tata want it?
Odd.

I'm so confused
Unless its a sop to "Red wall" voters - but Cumbria was not a main bastion of mining was it?
Seems very very strange

I think it’s just for the optics to remind us of when Britain was great.
Expect a fish initiative soon.

I'm so confused, this government in a nutshell

Have a listen to Lisa Nandy
twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1600854273587171328?t=e8FZAIZEHeIFrgMS-D0RJQ&s=19

Thank you. Wow, labour has some kick ass women

So the suggestion is that there was a deal struck between Tory MPs to allow on shore wind (within restrictive planning arrangements) if the Government agreed to what looks like to me a pointless coal mine?
I don't understand the Governments green energy policy.

But then I also dont understand their housing policy or why they've delayed the proposed Schools Bill which was supposed to raise standards.
I suppose they simply cant rely on their own party for votes (because its so fractured) so thing are being done behind the scenes and without scrutiny.

The lengths her and her husband went to not hide this massive windfall is disgusting.

Why would she hide something she feels fully entitled to?