Thread 19 From Trussterfuck to Sunakered

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And so it continues

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A reminder of what a very small world it is (for Tory donors) -

"Jockey Club director Dido Harding got a £37bn Covid testing contract from Newmarket MP Matt Hancock, and subcontracted it to Grand National sponsor Randox, employer of Owen Paterson, whose wife chaired Aintree racecourse. Tory horse racing club is a small world."

https://twitter.com/david__osland/status/1600255689137754113?s=46&t=hiEc1RqLpwRRNTxUjALUBg

Not forgetting that Harding is married to Tory MP John Penrose (Conservatives Anti Corruption Tsar)

Oh, the irony. It’s like asking Herod to babysit your kids.

That DM article There are always people benefitting from crises but flaunting your wealth like that in times like this takes something special.

Yeah - sorry. It was shorthand for the over 70 demographic where most Tory voters are found. My DF is one and loves going on about the unions in the 70s/80s as a reason not to vote Labour.
I don't think "labour are to blame for train strikes" makes much sense to anyone who's experience of a labour government was NuLabour. Could be wrong though.

I wasn't suggesting all Boomers are tories 😁

The BBC have just said Sunak is planning to ban the public sector from striking. That's smart, mass resignations instead then.

Are there enough over 70s to make most Tory voters over 70? Seems odd to me when most over 70s I know vote Labour. I've seen statistics that show most over 70s vote Tory but that isn't the same thing.

How does he plan to stop them? 😂

My DS used to compete there. When he 2as back in the UK we popped up there so I could show him what NHS funding gets spent on.

Agree (age: 69).

Did I miss the bit where we had far too many nurses and teachers so alienating them is really not a problem as there will be someone else to replace them with the same skills and experience?

Well, Brexit may have waylaid that particular cunning ruse.

Anything I have read about the public sector strikes seems to be about drafting in others to do the work while the main people strike - eg army medics.

I fail to see how that will work in the education sector so they are stuffed there. However, teachers are so generally biddable that I imagine the two main unions will strike on different days to minimise disruption... and will still get bashed !

No one comments much on the driving examiners' strikes. They are striking on loads of days!

The trouble is that they’ve got away with spouting absolute nonsense for so long they think nobody notices.
I’d love to see squaddies with guns in classrooms, though I daresay some silly children would still misbehave, or not do any work.

Perhaps people can sit driving tests in Warrior tanks.

I got quite animated last night when on our walk with friends and both were condemning the strikes.

I pointed out that it isn't covid or war that have caused CoL crisis alone. And yes, the world is in recession but our economic position has worsened by a larger amount - and asked why?

Agree Truss and Kwarteng made things 10 times worse with their mini fiscal event.

But they were both "we all need to pull together and get on with it".

Might add that 1 has already told me they are dipping into savings each month (she doesn't work)

And the other is off on her third break away with friends in 6 weeks and was discussing how she hopes the £800 she's changed up for her 4 night break (b and b and pre paid trips) is enough.

I did point out it's not everyone who is in the same situation as us.

We pay at least £350 a month every month for our kids to do their sport. We have something they could give up and where we can cut back and pointed out many families don't have things they can cut back on.

We have an internal food bank in a private room in our school for staff.

I also said I'm getting increasing frustrated at people believing what the media want us to hear and not actually doing proper research.

I realised today how bad things are when I was pleased to see diesel at £1.81. That's still over 40p a litre more than we were paying even if it's 20p less than the peak.

And Hancock was Newmarket - home of racing. Look at who made donations to him - quite a number of the big racing names.

don’t forget Randox also got a lot of the covid testing contracts.

Sir Keir Starmer keeps getting better and better at PMQ's.
He is the real deal.
The Tories are not reading the room.
They say striking will be made illegal for many workers . How low can they go?

I think perhaps the ambition of Sunak is to see if he can so completely destroy the Tory party that they aren't even the 3rd biggest party in the next parliament.

Excellent idea.

What I want to know is who is defending the country while the army are driving ambulances and trains and performing brain surgery and teaching kids and nursing people and all the other stuff they'll be covering? How big is the army these days, there must be millions of them.

Understand from the covid threads that mostly the army sits around knitting, just waiting for the opportunity to play nurses.

Ds2 joined the army when he was 17. He was medically discharged planning to rejoin when that was sorted.

Due to this, a combination of covid, failing a driving test and waiting 18 months for the army to get their shit together process his reapplication he has a test booked for January. I'm waiting to hear if that's been cancelled.