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And so it continues

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From Andrew Rawnsley-

Some cynics on the Tory side seem to be calculating that the disruption to the health service will be to their political advantage because they can blame strikes for what was anyway going to be a nightmarish winter for the NHS. That rests on the surely false assumption that the public haven’t noticed that the health service was in a critical condition before anyone was talking about walkouts. Ambulance response times are already longer than at any time on record with some victims of heart attacks and strokes not being attended for an hour or more after a 999 call. One of the more depressing observations I have heard is that most people may not notice that much difference between the NHS on a strike day and the NHS on any other day.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/04/winter-of-discontent-harden-feeling-tories-have-broken-britain

That rests on the surely false assumption that the public haven’t noticed that the health service was in a critical condition before anyone was talking about walkouts

People are not fooled that easily anymore now reality strikes.
Same with brexit.

Shared this on the brexit thread

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

Lots of people on this thread would enjoy Utopia for Realists. If you haven't read it, it's great. Just got to the bit about open borders.

Fewer immigrants have returned to countries- notably Mexico- since the building of walls...

Has he sent Putin a clear message by stopping heating his horses stables?

Has he stopped heating the stables or has he just stopped claiming expenses for it?

Sacrifice the horses to show Putin

Independent article is behind paywall, Hancock is blaming care workers fir bringing Covid into care homes

twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1599143520039731202?t=ka-zgehU0061b9lqUuGexA&s=19

Some carers slept in care homes and left their children with family members for weeks to protect residents.

The sacrifice they made was unprecedented.

Former Health Secretary Matt Hancock partly holding them responsible for deaths will cause huge upset.

I thought he was seeking forgiveness. He's got a very strange way of going about it.

He is promoting his book.

The same thing was said of infected teachers who were infecting each other 'round the coffee machine' ( Jenny Harries apparently thinks teachers have gatherings in staff rooms for a chat. And coffee provided . Hollow laugh) and/ or bringing covid in after partying large every evening. I mean, it was obvious bollocks. And now we know who definitely was paryting , it appears they just assumed we all behave as they do...

Carers, teachers, nurses...largely female. Soft targets.

Remember the nurses and teachers whataboutery on these early partygate threads from certain posters.

Shhhhh... you'll wake them up.

My df’s nursing home has a memorial bench for the three staff members who died in 2020/21. He may as well go and graffiti it.

That accusation is disgusting. I didn’t think Hancock could stoop any lower over the pandemic, but, there he is.

A mum friend and her baby didn’t see her husband/their baby’s dad for months at the height of it because he did care work and couldn’t risk coming home and then taking an infection back to the residents. She was beside herself with worry because she could see that black families like theirs were getting much sicker with Covid and so not only did she have to look after their baby alone, she was terrified that he might die.

Hancock is an arsewipe. How dare he

Oh is that what he was doing with his hands.

FFS jgw, I was eating!

😂

I hope you weren't using your hands.

Uhmmm, I was eating doritos...

Part of my job is phoning business's and asking random questions. I was speaking to a deputy manager in a care home a couple of weeks and asking if they felt that their manager was competent, their response was that the manager had got the home through covid without losing anyone to covid and they they felt they were so much more than competent as a result.

It was truly lovely to hear the pride and affection in their voice for the work that they had done through this period. This pride and selflessness is something felt in care homes across the country but as Hancock has no idea of what those words mean, he is happy to trample on the people who despite shit ppe, a lack of government support, ever-changing rules etc, did a fantastic job on the whole.

The government let this sector down and rather than accepting the responsibility, learning and appreciating the people doing the job, they are continuing to blame, deflect from their actions and treating us as though we are stupid.

Business as usual (yes I know he's had the whip removed for shirking and going to the other side of the world, but he is forever associated with covid and the conservatives).

He has the whip temporarily removed. Not sure if the tories fancy another by-election by making it permanent.

It’s not just up to the government. He’s massively unpopular with his constituency party, they’re likely to deselect him.

Sorry, you're right. Temporarily removed. Clearly worse than being a sex pest.

Meanwhile…, I am so pissed off that Starmer and Brown have given the Tories the week off to do whatever they want unscrutinised, by bringing out this nonsense about abandoning the House of Lords. It’s so off the charts the wrong time to be focusing on this and just such a poor idea, I am losing confidence in his ability to lead. I’m worried this is Starmer’s Corbyn moment. We absolutely cannot afford for Labour to disappear up their own arse at this time.