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Scarf and Giraffe don't rhyme

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:26

Another night ready Julia Donaldson books and another frustrating non-rhymey rhyme.

Scarf and giraffe don't rhyme. Neither do plant and can't.

Anyone else??

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 22:46

I'm sounding some of these words out in an accent that is very much my natural one, and I sound like something from an Angela Brazil boarding school book.

tigger1001 · 13/10/2022 22:46

They rhyme for me in my accent.

It does always amaze me how much variation there is in how we pronounce things and how accepts play such a big part

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 22:46

very much NOT my natural accent.

CuriousCatfish · 13/10/2022 22:46

How can one and gun ryhme?

You don't say wun for one?

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 22:47

CuriousCatfish · 13/10/2022 22:46

How can one and gun ryhme?

You don't say wun for one?

Lots and lots of us say wun for one.

Prescottdanni123 · 13/10/2022 22:47

They do not rhyme at all up north.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 22:47

Hugasauras · 13/10/2022 22:44

@MorrisZapp There was a thread about that fairly recently and I think it's because some people pronounce it like 'wohn' or something.

As ever with these threads and people falling over themselves to declare their way right and others wrong, it's just all about where you are from really.

Scarf and giraffe are two different sounds to me but I can make them rhyme if I do a certain English accent. In my own accent they definitely do not.

I mean...it's a bit of midweek tomfoolery.

Unless you actually fell over then be careful.

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GetTheGoodLookingGuy · 13/10/2022 22:47

mrsjimhopper · 13/10/2022 21:30

The definitely don't rhyme. It's like shone and dawn all over again.

Both of them rhyme for me (down south) but shone and dawn don’t.

Chillywilly93 · 13/10/2022 22:48

plant and can't seems fine to me. Scarf and giraffe, however, is a shambles.

TimeSlipMushroom · 13/10/2022 22:49

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 22:47

Lots and lots of us say wun for one.

Lots and lots of us don't

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 22:49

CuriousCatfish · 13/10/2022 22:46

How can one and gun ryhme?

You don't say wun for one?

One is won
Gun is gun
Won is wun

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OppsUpsSide · 13/10/2022 22:50

I admit I don’t have a very strict affiliation to my accent - but don’t you just see the rhyme on the page and make it fit? It is a childrens book - it’s not exactly tricky

BrightBlueFlamingo · 13/10/2022 22:50

Change your accent to make them rhyme but don't diss the Donaldson!!

MostlyNormalSometimesOdd · 13/10/2022 22:52

Yeah well door and drawer aren't supposed to rhyme but you'd be amazed at the number of people who make them sound the same

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 22:52

TimeSlipMushroom · 13/10/2022 22:49

Lots and lots of us don't

Gee, no shit!

My response was to the person saying 'You don't say wun for one?'

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 22:52

OppsUpsSide · 13/10/2022 22:50

I admit I don’t have a very strict affiliation to my accent - but don’t you just see the rhyme on the page and make it fit? It is a childrens book - it’s not exactly tricky

Nah cos then it sounds ridiculous.

I want a bescarfed giraffes to at least sound sensible

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 22:53

BrightBlueFlamingo · 13/10/2022 22:50

Change your accent to make them rhyme but don't diss the Donaldson!!

I'm proposing she rewrites the whole collection in a northern accent. Is that too much to ask?!

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merryhouse · 13/10/2022 22:54

Morris:

one rhymes with shone and gone and (maybe) scone; and wan; and won ton

one does not rhyme with done; or won or ton

one does not rhyme with lone, or phone or tone or hone or (maybe) scone

I naturally say giraffe to rhyme with naff, but I can switch with barely a thought if the text calls for it. Same as I can say GARRidge or gar-AAJH interchangeably (but I prefer GARR-aajh, just to mix things up).

S1 had his own idiom as a small child - bath with a short a (from me) and room with the almost-rum clipped vowel (from his dad).

MY personal bugbear is from Bedtime Bear, which is otherwise delightful:

An owl
in a towel

I couldn't do it. H thinks I'm weird.

CuriousCatfish · 13/10/2022 22:56

OppsUpsSide · 13/10/2022 22:50

I admit I don’t have a very strict affiliation to my accent - but don’t you just see the rhyme on the page and make it fit? It is a childrens book - it’s not exactly tricky

No because if I read it in a Southern accent with the long a my kids would laugh. That's laugh with a short a.

MichaelAndEagle · 13/10/2022 22:56

CuriousCatfish · 13/10/2022 22:46

How can one and gun ryhme?

You don't say wun for one?

I say won for one as in wonton.

But don't you ever hear other accents? I mean, anyone on eastenders for example.

Imagine Phil Mitchell shouting 'give me one good reason I shouldn't snack you in the mouth'
He'd say wun wouldn't he.

Houselamp · 13/10/2022 22:56

I read all the Julia Donaldson books in a variety of random accents and voices or in the form of a song so I can just say them in an accent that fits as they wouldn't naturally rhyme for me.
The scarecrows wedding sounds best in my uncles glaswegian accent, stick man is fun to sing and we do the gruffalo in an exaggerated posh southerner voice.
Its more fun and they can all rhyme if I want them to.

supperlover · 13/10/2022 22:56

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:29

Plant is a short 'a' sound like in Ant. Can't is a longer 'aarr' sort of sound.

Plant and can't rhyme if you have Northern Irish vowel sounds.

LadyChamberlain · 13/10/2022 22:56

Not read the full thread and vaguely related, but does anyone happen to know if translated versions of kids books such as JD ones rhyme in the non-english version?

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 22:59

LadyChamberlain · 13/10/2022 22:56

Not read the full thread and vaguely related, but does anyone happen to know if translated versions of kids books such as JD ones rhyme in the non-english version?

Oooo now I also want to know this..

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 23:00

merryhouse · 13/10/2022 22:54

Morris:

one rhymes with shone and gone and (maybe) scone; and wan; and won ton

one does not rhyme with done; or won or ton

one does not rhyme with lone, or phone or tone or hone or (maybe) scone

I naturally say giraffe to rhyme with naff, but I can switch with barely a thought if the text calls for it. Same as I can say GARRidge or gar-AAJH interchangeably (but I prefer GARR-aajh, just to mix things up).

S1 had his own idiom as a small child - bath with a short a (from me) and room with the almost-rum clipped vowel (from his dad).

MY personal bugbear is from Bedtime Bear, which is otherwise delightful:

An owl
in a towel

I couldn't do it. H thinks I'm weird.

This post reminds me of cat in the hat

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