Scarf and Giraffe don't rhyme

[SliceOfCakeCupOfTea]

Another night ready Julia Donaldson books and another frustrating non-rhymey rhyme.

Scarf and giraffe don't rhyme. Neither do plant and can't.

Anyone else??

They rhyme for me. A giraffe in a scarf in the bath having a laugh with a calf. All rhyme!

Scarf and giraffe rhyme in my accent. Plant and can’t don’t.

Pretty sure that as well as the rhotic accents, some (non 'posh') southern accents give it two syllables 'draw-wuh' or 'draw-wah'.

I'm from Newcastle and it's "draw" to me. Well both are.

It's in the 'draw'
I'm going to 'draw' a picture.

Is it just drawer that's the same as draw @SliceOfCakeCupOfTea?

What I mean is, what about words like borrower or interviewer, are they said the same as borrow and interview? And if not, do you know why it's different for drawer?

1. They rhyme for me.
2. It's also slant rhyme.
3. This is slant rhyme

Absolutely no idea why it's different other than it just is.

Same as look and book don't rhyme in my accent. But then pour and paw are pronounced the same, but poor is different.

So
Luk and booook
Por, por and pou-ah

And
Borrow and borrow-ah
Interview and interview-ah

Can't think of any other examples of the top of my head, but traditional Geordie is quite different from most other places in the UK with words like "gan" for "going" and "oot" for "out". Apparently linked to our accent being more Dutch and German influenced

Obviously, borrower, interviewer etc have the 'er' pronounced as a separate syllable, denoting there's a person performing an action. I think most/all people if referring to someone who'd drawn something eg a cheque would in that context also pronounce 'drawer' differently to 'draw', regardless of how they pronounced 'chest of drawers'.

Maybe my examples weren't very good 🤔
What about a word where the addition of an er doesn't denote a person performing an action (or not usually anyway). Words like sticker or voucher...is the er pronounced then? Is drawer the only case where it isn't? Just wondering...

I suspect it’s just that draw-er is a little hard to pronounce . The aw and the er are hard together, especially for British people, so we just got lazy and say draw. I suppose a similar example would be rawer. Like this steak is rawer than the other. I guess a lot of Brits would say roar or ro-ra rather than raw-er.

I’m Scottish and pronounce it drawer, not draw. I never understood how people would right things like ‘in the draw’ till I heard people say it like that and thought ohhh. To me it’s said draw-ur, with an r on the end.

To be honest I hate JD anyway. I work in a nursery and always put her books to the back of the shelf before I ask the kids to choose a story for story time. They’re always massively overlong and quite boring/hard to follow for younger kids, and quite often the rhyming is awkward. The Gruffalo was alright, but I’m not worshipper at the altar of JD.

In my accent they almost rhyme.

Plant and can't definitely rhyme to me.

Is this another dreary snooty thread that can't understand different accents mean that sometime we pronounce things differently?

WRITE things, obviously. Gosh I must be tired, or losing my mind or something 😂

We moved south for jobs in our early twenties. It was supposed to be temporary. But we didn't get out in time. Or at all.

When our kids started saying bahth and grahss, it was like we'd given birth to little aliens. The horror...

And you're right OP, of course.

I’ll be so glad when this drops out of chat because I’ve been singing ‘there is. Giraffe in my loft’ all night.
They manage to rhyme giraffe, scarf and laugh as well 😂

Yes, they do!

Accents are irrelevant, the ‘a’ in plant is a short monopthong (or pure vowel) so it cannot rhyme with can’t. Sorry, southerners you say it wrong 😁

Ah but people who speak properly like me say can't with the same short a as plant. No plahhhhnt or cahhhhnt here thank you.

The vowel sound is actually long, so it’s just as well you crossed out ‘properly’ 😁

Says who?

No its a light-hearted thread that yet again I sound like an arse trying to rhyme 2 non-rhymey words at bedtime and my 5 year old wanted me to explain the history of the different UK accents as a way to prolong bedtime.