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Scarf and Giraffe don't rhyme

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:26

Another night ready Julia Donaldson books and another frustrating non-rhymey rhyme.

Scarf and giraffe don't rhyme. Neither do plant and can't.

Anyone else??

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LoveJK · 13/10/2022 21:51

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:46

Who rhymes plant with cunt??!!

Plunt?

I was thinking perhaps of cockney for the swear word, “caaahnt!”, but of course they’d use the long “a” in plant.

BlackCatTabbyCat · 13/10/2022 21:51

They rhyme to me in Scotland. My daughter has a book which has Earth and worth as rhyming words. Absolutely not with my accent.

mrsjimhopper · 13/10/2022 21:51

@Shodan well it transpired that shone and dawn do rhyme if your are in the states. It's so weird but it was a bit of drip feed from the op in that thread. The OP English or British.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:52

I say Agen but weirdly sound more Geordie when I say agayne

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pocketvenuss · 13/10/2022 21:52

Totally rhyme for me.

Midnights · 13/10/2022 21:52

This was so confusing to read, I was thinking they clearly rhyme 😂

OrangePomander · 13/10/2022 21:52

I’ve just realised that I use the two different pronunciations of again depending on context, agen and agayen.

ChristmasAtHogwarts · 13/10/2022 21:52

I’m West Midlands and pronounce it

scar-f and girafffff so they don’t rhyme and plant and car-nt so they don’t rhyme either.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:52

BlackCatTabbyCat · 13/10/2022 21:51

They rhyme to me in Scotland. My daughter has a book which has Earth and worth as rhyming words. Absolutely not with my accent.

They 100% do rhyme

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LoveJK · 13/10/2022 21:53

mrsjimhopper · 13/10/2022 21:51

@Shodan well it transpired that shone and dawn do rhyme if your are in the states. It's so weird but it was a bit of drip feed from the op in that thread. The OP English or British.

But they also have Adam and atom as homophones there, the crazy splitters.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 13/10/2022 21:53

Yes they do

Theimpossiblegirl · 13/10/2022 21:53

How do look and soot not rhyme?

I stand with Julia, her rhyming is spot on. I am in the South West though.

LoveJK · 13/10/2022 21:54

Does anyone say “beer can” without sounding like a Jamaican saying “bacon”?

KatRee · 13/10/2022 21:54

They do not rhyme for me either. Glad to have managed to retain a bit of my northern accent despite 6 years teaching English abroad followed by 7 years in London- even if my mum tells me I sound like I've got a plum in my mouth nowadays

When I first went to start teaching English in my early twenties, I had to do an assessment to get on the TEFL course and I remember one of the questions was 'how would you teach learners the difference in pronunciation between 'put' and 'putt', which confused the hell out of me, as clearly the answer is THEY ARE PRONOUNCED THE SAME!

Anoisagusaris · 13/10/2022 21:54

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:29

Plant is a short 'a' sound like in Ant. Can't is a longer 'aarr' sort of sound.

Not in my accent. Plant and can’t do rhyme perfectly for me.

But you are right about scarf and giraffe.

ofwarren · 13/10/2022 21:54

Theimpossiblegirl · 13/10/2022 21:53

How do look and soot not rhyme?

I stand with Julia, her rhyming is spot on. I am in the South West though.

They don't even end in the same letter or sound.

LoveJK · 13/10/2022 21:54

Theimpossiblegirl · 13/10/2022 21:53

How do look and soot not rhyme?

I stand with Julia, her rhyming is spot on. I am in the South West though.

Using DH as an example again, but he says “look” and “luck” identically.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:54

Theimpossiblegirl · 13/10/2022 21:53

How do look and soot not rhyme?

I stand with Julia, her rhyming is spot on. I am in the South West though.

"luk" and "sooot"

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 13/10/2022 21:55

They don't rhyme for me either.

I only recently realised that Shaun the Sheep is meant to be a pun on 'shorn'. For me Shaun and shorn have distinctly different sounds.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/10/2022 21:56

Daisybuttercup12345 · 13/10/2022 21:53

Yes they do

No they don't

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TabithaTittlemouse · 13/10/2022 21:58

TheOrangeOrange · 13/10/2022 21:30

They rhyme for me... I say can't and plant and they both rhyme with ant 🐜

They both rhyme for me but they rhyme with aunt rather than ant 😂

Zogthebiggestdragon · 13/10/2022 21:59

How can we be 90-odd messages into this thread and no-one has mentioned 'certain' and 'curtain' from Scarecrows Wedding?

Although my vote for the weakest line - not rhyme, just line - in the Julia Donaldson ouevre is 'Bill pressed the button and Janet steered' from the Smeds and the Smoos. WTF.

RichardsGear · 13/10/2022 21:59

KatRee · 13/10/2022 21:54

They do not rhyme for me either. Glad to have managed to retain a bit of my northern accent despite 6 years teaching English abroad followed by 7 years in London- even if my mum tells me I sound like I've got a plum in my mouth nowadays

When I first went to start teaching English in my early twenties, I had to do an assessment to get on the TEFL course and I remember one of the questions was 'how would you teach learners the difference in pronunciation between 'put' and 'putt', which confused the hell out of me, as clearly the answer is THEY ARE PRONOUNCED THE SAME!

Put is more like 'poot' though.

RichardsGear · 13/10/2022 22:00

If you're posh.

EndlessMagpies · 13/10/2022 22:00

OrangePomander · 13/10/2022 21:47

So for the people who do pronounce them to rhyme, does giraffe have an ‘arr’ sound in the middle?

No - not like a cross between a pirate and a zoo keeper!

It has an 'ah' in the middle. Jer-ah-ff.

This thread highlights one of the many reasons why phonics is so hopeless when it comes to the English language...