ADS and the winds of change

[justasking111]

All set onward and upward friends

[justasking111]

@EmmaEmerald . I'd love to go just to get a feel as to why the buggers misused and abused the powers they'd given themselves. I'd keep my ears open and my mouth shut though.

[EmmaEmerald]

@justasking111

@EmmaEmerald . I'd love to go just to get a feel as to why the buggers misused and abused the powers they'd given themselves. I'd keep my ears open and my mouth shut though.

None of the speakers are from that side though

David Davis MP will be there, and I was wondering if some anti lockdown MPs - not that there are many! - will be on the audience.

Good thing you posted about it, I'm completely brainless. It's tomorrow night and I haven't RSVPd - well, I have now, thank you!

Honestly, I am worried if I attended I would just get too upset. I still have to keep lockdown and related things on the edge of my brain or I get too upset. I think Jennifer saw me lose it on a couple of threads here.

I was very pleased to see Djokovic win today. I am not anti vax, I had the vax though I probably won't have more. I don't know how Australian citizens feel about it all now.

[JenniferBooth]

@EmmaEmerald Do what feels right for you. I hope you have been doing ok.

[EmmaEmerald]

@JenniferBooth

@EmmaEmerald Do what feels right for you. I hope you have been doing ok.

Thank you , I go through periods of being fine and then get a bit odd! I had lunch with a friend today who thinks social media is making people odd. I know I still see everything through a lockdown frame so probably biased. I do wonder how many people are acting oddly because they can't admit the extent of what happened.

Triggernometry did a really good end of year podcast where they, naturally, talked about this a lot. Francis Foster was saying many people will never admit, even to themselves, how dreadfully they behaved, because they'd have to face facts and they can't.

definitely not going to the event, glad the report was done though. Still can't believe that even mentioning the rational book on here got threads pulled.

[justasking111]

Feels like some weird dream now. I think that I've blocked a lot. And I'm an awful sceptic, haven't bothered voting for years because whoever wins it's more of the same.

We're being bashed over the head daily now NHS wise. Don't drink, don't smoke vape, don't eat junk. Don't bother the hospital, GP, go to the chemist. It's your fault the NHS is buggered because you don't do as you're told. Well maties I don't believe you. The disengenous dismantling of the NHS has been going on for decades. Covid being a Bloody great excuse you revelled in.

[CoffeeWithCheese]

@justasking111

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11687675/Army-spied-lockdown-critics-Sceptics-including-Peter-Hitchens-suspected-watched.html

OH dear, I'm glad we're not politicians or journalists we'd have been thrown in the tower for some of our observations

I read that report and it felt really strange to know that my feelings about how things were being monitored and silenced were right. I kept a diary through the lockdowns to remind me what had been said, agreed, promised and then written out of history as I started to doubt my own sanity at times.

[JenniferBooth]

Francis Foster was saying many people will never admit, even to themselves, how dreadfully they behaved, because they'd have to face facts and they can't

Totally agree with this.

[JenniferBooth]

Well in light of very recent news i think Mumsnet should reinstate those threads. People on here were very wrongly and nastily painted as Nazis and conspiracy theorists. It was abuse. They also used obfuscation to try and say that people who didnt agree with lockdowns were also anti vaxxers. Many of us are the former but not the latter. People were called conspiracy theorists for suggesting that they were being spied on. Laura Dodsworth wrote about the 77th in her book so this is not new news. But Laura and her book was dismissed as an anti lockdown book by the bullying abusive fuckers who didnt even read it.

[thenightsky]

@JenniferBooth

Well in light of very recent news i think Mumsnet should reinstate those threads. People on here were very wrongly and nastily painted as Nazis and conspiracy theorists. It was abuse. They also used obfuscation to try and say that people who didnt agree with lockdowns were also anti vaxxers. Many of us are the former but not the latter. People were called conspiracy theorists for suggesting that they were being spied on. Laura Dodsworth wrote about the 77th in her book so this is not new news. But Laura and her book was dismissed as an anti lockdown book by the bullying abusive fuckers who didnt even read it.

👏Absolutely this. The AD threads kept me going through dark times, but I still recall the awful attacks we had to put up, being called anti vaxxers, covidiots, covid deniers etc. Won't hold my breath for an apology though...

[ISaySteadyOn]

Me neither. But, tbh, all of those names have lost their power for me. Much like being called far right on FWR. It just means 'I can't stand you having an opinion that differs from the Good Beliefs'

[justasking111]

I recall the odd interloper on here. Followed quickly by a slew of rude vegetables. That was amusing at a grim time. The insanity threads I studiously ignored. Family and friends at the time I gently reassured or ignored. I wasn't immune at the beginning myself.

[JenniferBooth]

twitter.com/BareReality/status/1619666054481088513?s=20&t=9IgGyxZV3EZx5e-f1HMK0g

[BogRollBOGOF]

@EmmaEmerald

Bogoff do you mean she blames you for being in that other area?

No, I just live away from where I grew up and have little natural reason to pass through the area. I can make time to visit at an invitation, but it's not a distance where I can speculatively drop in.

It looks like she bought in to the children being dirty disease vectors narrative though 🙄

[BogRollBOGOF]

@justasking111

I recall the odd interloper on here. Followed quickly by a slew of rude vegetables. That was amusing at a grim time. The insanity threads I studiously ignored. Family and friends at the time I gently reassured or ignored. I wasn't immune at the beginning myself.

I was thinking about the vegetables when I read the article yesterday. I'll admit to smiling at the thought of top-secret conversations about what we're up to and being bamboozled by aubergines.

These threads really were the final thread of my sanity. I think I would have been on the prescribed type of ADs otherwise. I think I was clinically depressed in the first half of 2021. Totally lethargic and numb, with occasional bursts of anger. It was the knowledge that it was situational and would pass that stopped me calling the GP. The drive that got me through summer/ autumn 2020 and making the most of every scrap I could do was quenched when the schools were shut in the January.

[EmmaEmerald]

so last night's event was pretty good, I hear.

the lovely Adam B shows this document, must be so weird to see yourself on this

www.instagram.com/p/CoDjpU7soGr/

I deleted my Twitter account early in lockdown, and some of my most significant followers didn't want to know when I rejoined. All passionate pro lockdowners. I have a sideline which I had been hoping to make into my next career, but it's an industry completely lost to the dogma of rightthink and wrongthink.

[EmmaEmerald]

Bog I've been on meds for years but while they keep me going in normal life, I haven't noticed much help for dramatic situational stuff. Booze and tranquillisers are better. I think you did the right thing because using those meds and then coming off them is quite hassly and faffy.

I'd be so interested to hear to hear from people who will admit they feel conned but I suppose we never will. I am starting to wonder if that's got something to do with my disappearing "friends".

[justasking111]

I've friends who admitted they'd gone off the deep end logic wise. They're now angry all trust in the establishment, government, lost. Cummings nudge theory has backfired somewhat because it was forceful shoving as they grew in confidence.

[EmmaEmerald]

just phew. I was beginning to think they were unicorns 😂

[ISaySteadyOn]

That is good to know.

[EmmaEmerald]

I think I'm starting to recover

famous last words. I'm really down but certain things don't provoke a reaction any more. I think I might be heading for some light at the end of the tunnel.

[JenniferBooth]

@EmmaEmerald that sounds hopeful

[EmmaEmerald]

@JenniferBooth

@EmmaEmerald that sounds hopeful

Thank you 🤗

[CruCru]

I loved these threads. Everyone in the world appeared to have lost their minds - and, frankly, the ability to debate in a civilised way - apart from you guys.

Re the old friend who wasn’t keen on meeting up. I used to have a rather marvellous book called The Rules. It was largely about dating and got a bad press (it was written in a twee American way) - but really it was about investing in people who invest in you. If your sister doesn’t call you or your boss doesn’t seem to like you all that much then just get your head down and get on with your own stuff.

This person hasn’t invested in you for a long time. It is all right to decide that you’ve had enough.

[justasking111]

I agree about the investing in those that give back

Watching Biden bragging about shooting down a Chinese balloon after it had wombled over Canada, America past sensitive military establishments was a yeah right you're all bonkers moment