ADS and the winds of change

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All set onward and upward friends

OH and cdiff. Just reread the announcement . Feeling sorry for the patients 😞

Thanks, I will see if I can find it.

@EmmaEmerald Show is from Thursday 9th March. And it was around 5pm so one hour in as Vanessas Monday to Fridays shows on there start at 4pm.

Jennifer thank you, I will look tomorrow.

Can't believe the lockdown lovers are still on about how much they loved it.

my family are convinced most people think it was wrong, I can't see that.

David Davis was on Triggernometry tonight, hopefully I'll get to watch that tomorrow.

Have your politics changed at all as a result of lockdowns and COVID panic? Because I think mine might have a bit. I think I am more open minded to other views than I was.

I don't get the lockdown love either. They closed playgrounds.

My politics remain broadly the same (I lean libertarian, I suppose) and support no UK politicial party as there isn't one I really agree with.

What I think has changed for me is I'm more cynical. I used to think people I disagreed with politically were, on the whole, trying to make the world better but disagreed about how to do it. I'm not sure I do think that anymore.

Whenever I do those political compass thingies, I come out as left libertarian.

I think I may be more cynical as well. But on a different note, how are your little ones and you?

DD1 has settled into secondary, DD2 doing fine as usual except for school messing her about and DS finally has friends! Multiple!

The temptation to start a thread called "things we warned you about with lockdown" is very strong.

Politics - I dunno, I think the main thing is I've realised voting makes an even smaller difference than I thought.

I know what you mean. There are a ridiculous amount of 'We told you so!' s

With the ones on here who accused us of all sorts - they'd just shout us down and resume accusing us of granny killing regardless.

I am STILL unable to carry out some client visits as homes go in and out of lockdowns - the potential for abuse is horrific, as is the impact upon residents who periodically discover they're not allowed to see their relatives again and again randomly and are having swabs shoved up their noses constantly.

With our hospital locking down again because of covid, cdiff and norovirus I'm concerned that vulnerable patients whose families friends would visit and notice that they hadn't eaten, drunk, been washed would alert someone well that's all out the window again.

@EmmaEmerald Im tempted to do that too. Im practically having to sit on my hands.

YY @CoffeeWithCheese they will just keep doubling down.

I think most of the COVID tests we have knocking about have either expired or are about to.

I really wish someone would
The cognitive dissonance will probably just make it another bowl of crazy though.

Government has passed a bill that cats must be microchipped.

www.gov.uk/government/news/treasured-pets-now-safer-as-microchipping-for-cats-becomes-compulsory

From June 24.

Now what was interesting was the comments section in an article. That in the case of another perceived pandemic the cats would be rounded up and destroyed. Many people now truly believe that. Matt Hancock's WhatsApp has planted the seed.

I remember when we were called conspiracy theorists for doubting aspects of covid.

Are they mad or prescient?

Do you mean they'd look at microchip records to be sure you'd killed your pet?

I don't think anyone on the WA message threads have even mentioned the pet thing.

Sidebar - I started a thread about LTNs being found to be based on faulty data. No replies. 🤷🏻‍♀️A lot of London LTNs were set up during lockdown, I think they hoped no one would question it.

Its the fact that no one seems to acknowledge that alot of the current bin fire of an economy is linked to the covid madness and lockdowns too.

Printing money left right and centre because you shut everyone down was never going to be a good thing long term. Higher inflation was inevitable .

And whilst everyone was panicking that 98yo Doris might due "before her time" no one was watching Putin and the warning signs coming from Russian govt.

And trying to push through Brexit when you locked up our own workforce, knowing full well that many of the critical worker roles were filled by Europeans was just blanket insanity (well, all of Brexit was to be fair).

ADs had said it would be our children and grandchildren paying for these decisions and no one cared. Now they moan that their kids can't find a house of afford a car.....well DUH!! You shut thr economy for months on end and print money to pay for it, it fucks up everything for generations!

I have mixed feelings about LTNs as a non driver, I must admit. However, I think the way councils have gone about it is completely wrong. I don't think things should be imposed on people in the way it has been. And I don't think it's been thought through properly.

@ISaySteadyOn we're all doing well thank you. Dd1 is just starting her terrible twos, but she's not too bad with it! Generally a happy little person, but we've had the odd incidence of throwing herself on the floor screaming. Dd2 is a lovely contented baby to be honest. She's six months now and loving food so that's good fun. Both of them like each other so far (except when Dd2 makes a grab for Dd1's hair!)

I don't drive either. But forcing traffic on to a smaller set of roads means you sit on the bus for a lot longer. People living on the roads where the traffic is now are basically living in a Super High Traffic Network. Tradesmen and other essential workers are taking much longer to get from A to B.

it's another way to privilege the laptop classes and shit on ordinary people, except if you post about it on here, you get told you want people to die from air pollution.

the Mayor produced the most astonishing video saying that traffic had "disappeared". Turns out their measurement doesn't measure traffic going below 12mph, I think traffic is going at less in a lot of cases.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4760779-ltns-and-the-disappearing-traffic

government by gaslighting. Anyone living in a High Traffic area can tell you that.

There's a hell of a lot of staff working in my area (adult learning disabilities) now who are very very openly angry at what all the lockdowns DID - even some who have "long covid" are still fuming at the impact of it all.

We have care homes still going in and out of outbreak containment measures (duh - it's been winter and people get bugs), we have a referrals list longer than Santa's naughty list of people with challenging behaviour when they've lost all of the stuff that was their daily routine. We have people who substituted their day centres and animal therapy and everything for smacking their heads against the wall - but have pages and pages of notes about how "Jenny understands it is important to stay at home so she can be safe" - when Jenny understands none of it - particularly since it's being barked at her from behind a mask, visor, rustly PPE apron and she has no fucking clue who's talking to her anymore!

And we are really fucking struggling with the 2 year hole in DD2's social development meaning that she's completely floundering now, and DD1 isn't navigating the tweenage bit with any degree of good grace either.

Post university DS he's so timid. Has a good job lovely girlfriend nice flat. BUT when asked about his employer and assessment six months won't ask. He needs to know because of the lease on the flat. His driving test is in may hasn't booked lessons even though we're paying. His girlfriend is exasperated with him. He faffs around his flat at the weekend, she goes home or goes out with friends. We're really worried she'll get fed up with her hermit and dump him

Hello - Im not a regular poster - but you guys kept me sane through lockdown where I worked in a supermarket delivery team (we were challenged shall we say) and tried to juggle the care of my father (82, and in South Wales - I'm in the Mids) and my MIL who was in sheltered accomodation

Seeing that post upthread about hospitals really triggered me - my MIL went into hospital in March 2021 just after a small fall, walking and talking and with mild Dementia (It was mild according to the sheltered accommodation staff who were lovely, during lockdown I have to say) Anyway we weren't allowed to visit her until she lay unconscious, dying two weeks later a shadow of her former stature - she looked like she hadn't been fed or watered in weeks. When they put IV access in (as my husband complained about her cracked lips - she rallied, so he was sent home because she looked like she was improving. Only for him to be called back in two days later where she was sedated, no IV access/hydration again and she died that evening.

She was neglected in hospital, we were unable to speak to her over the phone - it was always the "wrong time" when we called at the "right time" nobody answered. When my husband went in to see her the first time - she roused and said she thought he'd deserted her, she claimed that no one had told her he'd called. It was heartbreaking. There may have been a dementia reason for her not remembering, however it was evident that no-one had cared for her at all when she was in. Such a shame. I can't bring it up and add to my Husband's distress, but I am furious that she was basically murdered by neglect. How can someone who he spoke to on the phone the night she was taken in, and the next day on the ward, die 2 weeks later of COPD/Chest infection (On death cert)