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ADS and the winds of change

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justasking111 · 09/10/2022 10:35

All set onward and upward friends

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thenightsky · 04/03/2023 18:01

justasking111 · 04/03/2023 17:53

I'm getting the rage again.

wow... number 3 on that WHO list!

EmmaEmerald · 04/03/2023 18:08

Their own documents answer that, though ironically I don't feel able to quote them.

justasking111 · 04/03/2023 18:16

I started to wade through the 197 page document but I've a problem with my right eye and it's all blurry.

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JenniferBooth · 04/03/2023 18:20

I remember saying at the time that they were enjoying the power and laughing at us.

twitter.com/RealDeniseWelch/status/1631955077635211265?s=20

justasking111 · 04/03/2023 18:21

Held behind closed doors so we won't know for a while the answers. However with the what's app furore and the truths coming out the media colluded with the government to scare the bejaysus out of us, so I don't hold out much hope that they'll whistle blow.

Gleaning a bit they're replacing the word may with shall in regards to respecting the sovereignty of countries. So the WHO directives will trump the government wishes

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justasking111 · 04/03/2023 18:24

ID cards and QR CODES are sought by them going forward. We're all gonna be tagged if they pull this off

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EmmaEmerald · 04/03/2023 18:34

just this might save your eye strain, apologies if you know it already

from a source that no one will object to I hope.

obviously we all know how treaties work in practice

www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-who-pandemic-treaty-draft-reaffirms-nations-sovereignty-to-dictate-health-policy/

Buzzinwithbez · 04/03/2023 18:45

I'll give it a day or two because I'm sure someone is going to look at the data

twitter.com/northerness/status/1632071872467673093?t=bX8jMYC6E2PZQvtcjG41jQ&s=19

justasking111 · 04/03/2023 19:04

They were all high on the ease with which many countries willingness to go with their government advice. It was a "SIMON/MATT SAYS" scenario here

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JenniferBooth · 04/03/2023 22:07

Ive a fucking good mind to send that to the bloke who PMed me on facebook at the time. Was creepy.

JenniferBooth · 04/03/2023 23:54

Wonder how his Im A Celeb fangirls feel now.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/04/project-fear-covid-variant-lockdown-matt-hancock-whatsapp/

EmmaEmerald · 05/03/2023 00:22

Hancock is pretty much public enemy no1 for me in this, in terms of England - and there's a lot of competition.

I've heard it said that he was a pawn who couldn't cope. I don't see that at all. I saw a man revelling in the control he had.

EmmaEmerald · 05/03/2023 01:46

Bloody 'ell Del

I thought this was a mocked up satire but what I can see of Telegraph, it's real?

twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1632127772909883392

justasking111 · 05/03/2023 08:31

twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1632018168175624192

Brussels and the Netherlands farmers facing a difficult future. The Netherlands are compulsory purchase every farm!!

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JenniferBooth · 05/03/2023 13:38

@EmmaEmerald I saw the same thing. Every time i saw him at the podium at those press conferences and being interviewed on TV. Wonder how ITV are feeling now given they commisioned him for Im A Celeb. Because they look like complete idiots.

Buzzinwithbez · 05/03/2023 14:39

Here we are. Death increased in September and throughout Autumn, much like Italy and France, with Germany trailing but following a similar pattern.
It's almost like there was a seasonal illnesses about.

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justasking111 · 05/03/2023 14:49

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

anyone remember this? UK are not even giving figures now

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JenniferBooth · 05/03/2023 14:54

Labour MP doubling down.

twitter.com/sAugust06/status/1632320621089550336?s=20

BogRollBOGOF · 05/03/2023 16:00

I'm finding it quite surreal how on the ball we were at reading the patterns of what was going on and how rapidly it's being exposed. It would be a relief if it wasn't for the vitriol we faced for holding our opinions and the time. I'm glad that we were right, but I can't even articulate the double injustice of having to exist through unnecessary measures, their negative consequences, and the toll of having to supress our thoughts about it or face abuse/ alienation for it.

Heck we even got to the stage of reading the cycles of stories and predicting how they'd preceed new restrictions/ vaccine drives. Want to push people to take up the booster? Publish stories about "healthy" morbidly obese teenagers that died a month earlier to remind people that no age group is safe. It's weird seeing it confirmed that we were absolutely correct about the game that was being played in the media and with our lives.

I spent so long simmering in anger or numb, and that's not healthy. It took so much life and energy from me and I don't want it to consume more of me, but they can't just walk away like it never happened either.

What I still fail to wrap my head around is that it's not just Hancock and his cronies throwing their weight around, it was a global political contaminent with few governments resisting. I went to another Eurpoean country in 2021... I thought the UK had been bad, but it was like going back 12m to summer 2020.

And in the meantime I never saw MiL again because of the travel/ health/ care restrictions then the fragility of her health. The DCs were 9 & 11 when they went to her funeral... they were 6 & 8 the last time they saw her in late 2019 before her rapid decline facilitated by isolation and neglected healthcare (not NHS).
I don't know how influential restrictions were towards the depression and suicide of my younger cousin last year.

ISaySteadyOn · 05/03/2023 16:12

I think the impact of restrictions on every aspect of life will reverberate for years to come. You can't put society on pause and expect nothing to happen. People aren't a video game.

Me, I struggle to go anywhere outside my borough now. DH is actually really worried about me. I am trying to push myself out both for him and me but it is really hard. And I used to be expert at it with babies in slings and toddlers in the pushchair and on buggy boards. I was just starting to manage with children when lockdowns hit. Which is all a long-winded way of saying that restrictions hurt people.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 05/03/2023 17:00

I was at a party last night and talking to friends and we were all saying how we can't believe the things we did, agreed to do, fought against etc. Pubs opening before schools, having to eat a scotch egg in a pub, wearing masks in restaurants unless seated, not seeing friends and family....I mean the list is extensive. And people wanted MORE!!

EmmaEmerald · 05/03/2023 17:52

Bog spot on...double injustice is so true.

I have also wondered what the deal is in other countries. America seems very attached to masks.

ISay is it being out that makes you nervous, or going to unfamiliar places?

It's good for me to have limited conversation about this to understand the mindset of others. I think there are people who have been broken by it but don't know that they have been affected so much.

justasking111 · 05/03/2023 17:52

I wonder what happened to all the perspex screening in businesses.

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