A woman is being sued for being disabled

[MrsPear]

Seriously the world has gone mad - a woman who is disabled is being sued by her air B and B guests for triggering them.

see her explain here

Message from MNHQ - please read the updates before posting as it appears that not everything may be as it first appears with this news story.

Anyone got a subscription to the Irish Independent?

Jade must be 33-34 now, btw. I envy her young looking skin.

@lljkk Absolute ableist finger pointing and victim blaming

You're trying to justify disabled people making your child VOMIT? Come on.... If we disgust your child so much then you should keep her inside, rather than insist that all disabled people stay inside to accommodate your child's disgust.

Infuriating

Just to say Huntingdons is often diagnosed in 30’s/40’s so everything else aside not sure what relevance that has?

Writer.

Prize winner.
Delayed diagnosis, symptoms
Podcast
She has buckets of mentions on webpages about using adaptive technology

CJW says that her disease is a lot like Alzheimers which would go a long way towards why she makes little mistakes, such as citing the wrong legislation for country where she lives.

Also - and I’m not aware of this condition prior to this thread - but that sounds quite serious and disabling in itself. I presume they have received medical investigation/diagnoses - whereas in this case they have ‘self identified’ ie. self diagnosed, and that is part of the issue?

If something illicits such as strong reaction, and given the prevalence of encountering that in society, almost everyone affected would have sought professional medical attention right?

I refute that I am victim blaming. You can enjoy believing that if you like, of course.

Due to being old in tooth, I would like to hear "both sides of the story" before I decide who is right or wrong in a story. Though I am not interested in deciding right/wrong. More interested in evolution.

Are guests actually suing her for mental anguish, or are they suing her for defamation and part of the harm (they claim) she has caused them in defaming them, is anguish because of the things she said about them?

I'm not sure who the guests are, now. One version of the story implied it was a male-female couple but one of the summaries says the guests were 3 men... AirBnB lists a female (Charlotte) who did the guest-feedback. So much of the "other side of the story" is unclear.

This says "ableist couple" and "three men" were the guests. So I'm totally confused.

Has anyone sat & listened to her videos, which was it? A couple or 3 men (or 2 difficult parties on same day, maybe?)

I believe it was a couple and their adult son. your snide little ‘observations’ are only embarrassing you. your lack of shame over your ableism is shocking

I would like to hear the other side too. I've tried to find it and failed. I've found the whole thing so confusing (and yes, I have first hand knowledge, as a disabled person, of ableism) and want to hear the whole thing.

Not blindly believing everything you're told doesn't make you ableist, however much you insist it to be so.

I'm sure plenty of people said that about people skeptical of figures like Belle Gibson, as well.

It's very weird to fervently insist that just because someone is disabled means they cannot possibly be disingenuous. Or even just mistaken. or that implying that they might be mistaken or even the slightest bit economical with the truth - is irrefutable proof of prejudice.

I sometimes wonder what it's like to go thru life with unshakeable beliefs. Doesn't seem to be working out so well for Liz Truss right now.

Seems like a lot is missing from the story, as others I'd be interested in hearing from air bnb and the guests.
If its exactly like how is being portrayed that's bad obviously, but it seems like it might not be, based on the review etc

I can't believe people are defending someone who is suing a disabled person for being disabled. This is outrageous. I know there's more to it, but I still think if that's their reason for taking her to court that's stupid

Charlotte’s response to Jade’s review refers to “enfants”.

Absolutely no one in this thread has done so. Not one.

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The world is crazy isn't it! I met someone once who was literally terrified of fat people. So scared couldn't shop in big supermarkets or go to fast food places or the types of towns where there were lots of fat people and told me a story of a fat person standing by them in a queue for a long time and this person not being able to control it but trying to, but eventually spontaneously projectile vomiting right by this fat person and it went on their shoes. Honestly, you couldn't make it up.

@Lessofallthisunpleasantness

Wow. Surely that’s a disability in itself?

I suppose so. It was quite a bizarre story. To begin with I was laughing as thought it was a joke. I dunno. Nuts.

Are guests actually suing her for mental anguish, or are they suing her for defamation and part of the harm (they claim) she has caused them in defaming them, is anguish because of the things she said about them

I've read some crazy comments from you recently but this takes the biscuit. It wouldn't matter because her anguish is absurd. Emotional support dogs? Adult colouring books for life?

Either the legal action is entirely fabricated or it's as crazy as it seems. There is no middle ground where it makes sense, no matter how shrewd and knowing you wish to appear.

YOU COULD!

Reading this I think it might be one of the American far right Christian rights groups who are round about trying to challenge self-id mental illness vs. physically recordable equality groups (like disabled people or funnily enough biological women)

It’s an interesting one because in a sane world this should just be laughed out. But she’s right, the world isn’t sane. And there is a precedence for this with self Id trumping recordable physical groups rights.

In Jade's response to the review she states that Air BnB offered to move the guests. This aligns with their safety policy regarding hosts in shared situations. If a live-in host contacts Air BnB and states that they feel unsafe, Air BnB will remove the guests, no questions asked!! Jade states she declined to do this as she didn't want them to be 'out on the street'.

She also states that Air Bnb offered to do a formal review, which would probably mean the guests would be removed from the site (eg their Air BnB account suspended), Jade also declined to do this. So not sure where all the blame on Air BnB's actions is coming from, her review at the time completely contradicts this.

Does not add up, at all. Personally I think this started as a dispute over smoking and the guests behaviour, and unmet expectations on both sides, and has escalated from there.

right, and do you think it’s acceptable that it escalated so much on the guests’ side that they’re now suing her for being disabled?