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Is anyone not weeping in to their cuppa today?

178 replies

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 09/09/2022 10:02

Or is it just me? My colleagues are all in mourning and apparently can’t concentrate and do their work properly today and I’m all 😑 at the drama of them.

Don’t get me wrong Her Majesty was a legend and she did a really good job, but at 96 it’s hardly unexpected and I don’t think it warrants quite the level of drama some people seem to be displaying.

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oreobiscitz · 09/09/2022 13:24

Another one

Chargingup · 09/09/2022 13:53

I’m struggling to understand how people are so upset. I almost feel like it’s a collective acting/ lying and that no-one can really mean it. I genuinely can’t empathise with the mindset of someone grieving for someone they never met and had nothing to do with them. And who lived a privileged and largely happy incredibly long life. A 40yr old woman literally sobbing on the streets on TV last night. It’s not normal behaviour to me.

I am not her subject (not willingly anyway), I didn’t love her, I don’t think she was an amazing woman particularly. At times like this I feel like most people are aliens with their behaviour!

padfootlives · 09/09/2022 14:06

@Chargingup nobody is instructing you to feel sad. You're entitled to your opinion and your feelings. Personally I think a woman dedicating her life to her country is pretty amazing. She was working up until 2 days before she died. She has prioritised her role as sovereign and done it with dignity for 70 years. I think it's crass to say she's not amazing but that's your opinion.

Many people feel like they knew her because she's been such a long standing presence. I haven't sobbed over it but I do feel sad at her loss.

I do think at times like this people could maybe exercise the option to say nothing a bit more. Like you don't have to think she's amazing, but you also don't have to say that.

LetsGoCrazyPurpleBanana · 09/09/2022 14:08

I'm sad but crying? No.
And I can't believe TV cameras are following Charles driving to Buckingham palace. It's getting a bit silly now.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 14:12

LetsGoCrazyPurpleBanana · 09/09/2022 14:08

I'm sad but crying? No.
And I can't believe TV cameras are following Charles driving to Buckingham palace. It's getting a bit silly now.

That actually feels a bit intrusive if anything. I say this as someone who has no time for the man at all, but his mother has just died.

PlanetNormal · 09/09/2022 14:14

Now there are people outside Buckingham Palace shouting ‘God save the King’. Fucking unhinged imbeciles.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 14:16

I do think at times like this people could maybe exercise the option to say nothing a bit more. Like you don't have to think she's amazing, but you also don't have to say that.

This is such an awful take.

Battybonkers · 09/09/2022 14:17

I’m weeping, but only because I have Covid and just want to curl up infront of the tv and watch something that isn’t an obituary. I agree @JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam the queen was fab and it’s sad for her family but as someone who never met her I don’t feel that it has ruined my week. Covid has already done that.

LetsGoCrazyPurpleBanana · 09/09/2022 14:17

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 14:12

That actually feels a bit intrusive if anything. I say this as someone who has no time for the man at all, but his mother has just died.

Thank you. Glad it's not just me.

FindingMeno · 09/09/2022 14:20

I'm of the stiff upper lip persuasion.
I find all the public mourning awkward, whether it be the Queen or a celebrity.

SnoozyLucy7 · 09/09/2022 14:21

padfootlives · 09/09/2022 14:06

@Chargingup nobody is instructing you to feel sad. You're entitled to your opinion and your feelings. Personally I think a woman dedicating her life to her country is pretty amazing. She was working up until 2 days before she died. She has prioritised her role as sovereign and done it with dignity for 70 years. I think it's crass to say she's not amazing but that's your opinion.

Many people feel like they knew her because she's been such a long standing presence. I haven't sobbed over it but I do feel sad at her loss.

I do think at times like this people could maybe exercise the option to say nothing a bit more. Like you don't have to think she's amazing, but you also don't have to say that.

Why do people who feel differently from you, regarding their Queen, should choose to
say nothing? People should absolutely feel free to say what ever they want to. A lot of people did not feel connected to the Queen or the royal family in general, and in turn will
not feel as emotionally affected by what’s happened and just want to get on with it!

We are thankfully not a dictatorship which means that a person can express themselves and their opinions, when they want to, and don’t have to feign sorrow or grief if that’s really not what they feeling.

This a discussion forum, people are allowed to have and express differing opinions without having to be admonished for doing so.

padfootlives · 09/09/2022 14:42

@SnoozyLucy7 of course they can but I would say that out of basic respect for the dead you don't need to choose this time - literally right after she's died - to say negative things about her. This applies to anyone, not just the queen. Don't speak ill of the dead and all that.

It's crass and unnecessary imo to slag someone off who has just died. Just my view.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 14:54

padfootlives · 09/09/2022 14:42

@SnoozyLucy7 of course they can but I would say that out of basic respect for the dead you don't need to choose this time - literally right after she's died - to say negative things about her. This applies to anyone, not just the queen. Don't speak ill of the dead and all that.

It's crass and unnecessary imo to slag someone off who has just died. Just my view.

It's so arrogant for you to decide you're qualified to make pronouncements on what constitutes respect and who needs to say what in which circumstances.

NewYorkLassie · 09/09/2022 15:08

RaininSummer · 09/09/2022 13:21

I find it sad that an old lady has reached the end of her life but weeping for s person you never knew is very odd.

As many people on this thread have already explained, it brings up other emotions in lots of people, those who’ve recently lost loved ones for example.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/09/2022 15:09

If i had to swear under Oath I couldn't care less. She was 96 years old for goodness sake. No one can say she's hasn't had her life and a bloody good and privileged one at that

NewYorkLassie · 09/09/2022 15:11

Why do people who feel differently from you, regarding their Queen, should choose to
say nothing? People should absolutely feel free to say what ever they want to. A lot of people did not feel connected to the Queen or the royal family in general, and in turn will
not feel as emotionally affected by what’s happened and just want to get on with it

I really can’t see why those who claim to not care seem to be spending so much time on the topic. It’s bizarre. Perfect try find to feel differently to others, but it’s taking up an awful lot of headspace in people who apparently don’t care.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/09/2022 15:13

I didn't fawn over her while she was alive I'm certainly not going to start fawning over her and doing all histrionics and throwing my self now shes passed on. I've never liked or disliked her to be honest

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 09/09/2022 15:17

I am sad but I'm not in bits

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 09/09/2022 15:19

Not to sound snippy but my dad died two years ago so I can't get the same level upset about it. It is sad though and feels weird

dottypencilcase · 09/09/2022 15:24

Me. The 'your majesty, you're the greatest thing that ever happened to this country' bullshit tributes are doing the rounds in full force where I am. She was an incredibly privileged- in every sense of that word- white woman who wouldn't know the trials and tribulations faced by her 'subjects' if they hit her in the face. She never went without. As for service, she had a gazillion advisors telling her what to do and say and she did what they asked and then sat back down!!! And she didn't lead the country- the government did/does. She just made sure her and her family's interests were always protected. End of.

Happylittlethoughts · 09/09/2022 15:29

17 days of this! Jesus wept , I'll go mad Ted

rrtu · 09/09/2022 15:30

what's the difference between this thread and the other thread that got deleted earlier where the OP said exactly the same things said by many posters on this thread. The other thread was the one asking about the bank holiday. I don't get the difference as the sentiments from many on this thread is exactly the same as the OP expressed on the other and she got called vile, horrible etc. and the thread got deleted

tomissmymum · 09/09/2022 15:31

Greyarea12 · 09/09/2022 11:29

@tomissmymum

I am the same. I have been in tears all morning (triggered by all the sad songs playing on radio) but not because of grief for the Queen but grief over my Dad. My Dad died 6 weeks ago and watching the Queens family rush to her and then being to late is very very similar to what happened to my siblings and its very raw for me. Knowing what her family are feeling right now aswell. This is the type of thing I would call my Dad about and just be saying .. oh you got the news on, have you heard etc. The Queen dying is sad, especially for her family with it happening so suddenly but I am upset today because of the raw emotions that are surfacing for me around my Dads death, who also had a very rapid decline.

So I agree that it will be hitting very raw nerves for people who have lost their parent/grandparent, particularly recently.

Flowers I hope you’ve had an OK day x I ended up going down to meet a friend and she read my mood perfectly, had a bit of a giggle with a cup of tea . I think it’s about being gentle with yourself and taking time away from the TV (and radio!) definitely. I said to my friend, I feel daft for being tearful but it’s my mum’s horrendous situation, my grannies and the loss of yet another ‘constant and familiar’ …

TwinGirlsOnTheWay · 09/09/2022 15:35

NewYorkLassie · 09/09/2022 15:11

Why do people who feel differently from you, regarding their Queen, should choose to
say nothing? People should absolutely feel free to say what ever they want to. A lot of people did not feel connected to the Queen or the royal family in general, and in turn will
not feel as emotionally affected by what’s happened and just want to get on with it

I really can’t see why those who claim to not care seem to be spending so much time on the topic. It’s bizarre. Perfect try find to feel differently to others, but it’s taking up an awful lot of headspace in people who apparently don’t care.

Because it's being shoved down our throats? Open twitter, it's there. Open up the internet, it's there. Papers. Magazines, radio. Everything is to do with her

padfootlives · 09/09/2022 15:51

@PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior so you think it's respectful to slag off someone whose just died? I wouldn't call it arrogance, just common sense/basic decency.