Big Dog - Going, going, not quite gone. Thread 14.

[Notonthestairs]

Will it be Continuity Truss or "Socialist" Sunak in charge?

I bet that the right wing press would be up in arms if a Labour government overturned its previous manifesto and wanted to start fracking for gas in leafy suburbs or wherever would allow it to take place! I doubt anywhere will be open to it given how controversial it is.
I remember the protests before about it all, it wasn't pleasant.

Suspect by Christmas you'll be called unpatriotic for not supporting fracking.

I'd love a fracking site to be set up ( or preposed ) close to where Jacob Rees Mogg is currently an MP in North Somerset. . How would they react? Would they suddenly become Russian sympathizers ?

During her campaign to be Conservative party leader, Truss said new sites would only go ahead with local consent. However, those familiar with discussions in the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS), led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, now say that there are discussions about pushing through sites without local approval by designating them as nationally significant infrastructure projects (NSIPs).
This means they would bypass normal local planning requirements. The designations usually apply to infrastructure such as roads, airports, and energy sites.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/22/truss-could-break-fracking-election-pledge-to-bypass-local-opposition?CMP=sharebtnn_tw

They can overturn any opposition to fracking in your area then ( basically)

Emily Maitlis is now doing The News Agents with Jon Sopel and Lewis Goodall

I haven't got round to listen to their podcasts yet but they sound interesting.

Fracking wont happen, the gas produced will be tiny, is years away and the science hasn't changed on the environmental issues.

I see this announcement as just another Tory meaningless policy.

Yes.

As another poster said up thread, why aren't the press all over this?
So many wrongs being done right in front of our faces . Coffey on tv this morning, unbelievable and where do they all get their smug grins from in the face of such appalling governing? YOU WERE ALL IN GOVERNMENT BEFORE !!!!!

I must say I think this is an excellent idea.

I doubt Tory MPs in constituencies where this happens will find it so pleasing though.

There is another thread on aibu about the chancellor wanting to change the amount of hours people work and can claim in work benefits.
I guess more will be said tomorrow about this.

And if you only need 5 supervisors for the whole hospital and 50 cleaning staff how do all 50 get promotion to the better paid position?

I heard in the news later in today it's for those working 12 hours who will expected to find more work and they were raising the expectations for working to the same as those working 15 hours.

I'm not sure if the same caveats will apply for lone parents, caters and those with non school aged children.

The theory of getting people into work is good. We should have a country where people can work hours around their other commitments. I remember when woman could work 10-2 in shops like Woolworths - I did it!

But a) those roles don't exist and it's too many zero hours contracts and b) wages haven't risen with inflation or cost of living.

And most importantly back the original pro lane of their announcement - you need 1 supervisor for X number if staff. Promotion isn't available for everyone. Those low paid jobs still exist.

But they don't like when those low lid workers strike for more pay so they don't need benefits either.

I'm thinking they really don't have a grip on reality 🤦🏼‍♀️

I listened to her on radio 4.

I wanted to scream the the radio she was so unreasonable

So £500 million to social care - good news.
£500 million coming from NHS budgets - not good news.

Changes to Social care were to be paid for from the NI increase (to be scrapped tomorrow).

Excellent explainer on the Truss/Kwarteng "plan"/gamble from Lewis Goodall here -

twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1572964248082325507?s=46&t=cqyzrX9eBHf3rklC7XTcbw

As he indicates so much of this is linked to covering up Brexit related failures.

Just putting this out there (data from end of August).

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

Ha! That website you posted has my areas social position categorised as ‘kind yuppies’ @jgw1 😄

strong Tory hold and a half decent MP (who I would vote out in a heartbeat!)

Thanks for that. I thought that was a very good, informative and balanced analysis of the situation.

My locality are kind yuppies but my ward is strong right. No wonder I hate everyone.

Where did you find social position?

@itsgettingweird if you look down the page linked there’s an option to put your postcode in

Very interesting. Suddenly my Tory stronghold constituency turns marginal if those predictions are correct. I definitely won’t be spoiling my paper next time.

Mine stays the same :(
I think my MP will die in harness .

Mine too, my ward voted Lib Dem though in a very blue county that is predicted to stay blue.

I remember on a Rwanda thread I said the way the government treats asylum seekers matters, because it’s indicative of how the government will treat benefits claimants and disabled people as soon as they think they can get away with it. Someone called me unhinged. I guess you have to be to understand how this government thinks 😁

I did but I think we just got conservative!!!!

Sadly it has meant we get Braverman along with that!