Lauren Goodger beaten after her babies funeral

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Good God that poor, poor woman. How much more suffering can one woman take? First the loss of her baby and now this it's just horrific.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lauren-goodger-hospitalised-facial-injuries-27672451

If she did fight back she would be branded "just as bad as him"
Victims of sexual assaults are asked why didn't you fight back?
Victims of DV are asked why did you fight back?

We can't win.

Sending love to Lauren and hope that she has support around her

This is so true. If she fought back she would get equal if not more blame and all the misogynists would be loving it as usual.

Even the story as it is has people sympathising with him and asking what she did to trigger him.

It is difficult to articulate this without sounding like I am making excuses for violence
if it sounds like you are doing something, it is probably because you are.

Firstly, society has moved on and it is quite common to hear men expressing their emotions now, including those in the public eye. Jordan Peterson, hardly ever stops crying, for example. There is a lot of role modelling of men expressing their emotions, a lot of men's mental health support around.

Secondly, even amongst men who choose not to talk about their feelings, most of them do not then need to beat up the women they are in relationships with. It is simply not true that men are attacking women because they are unable to articulate their feelings with words. There are other causes. Among them a societal belief that men are less able to manage their emotions and so more excused in beating up their partners when things get too much for them.

Its not a twisting of your narrative. It was an attempt to point out how irrelevant your example was. There is no equivalence to someone getting drunk as a grief response and a man beating up his grieving wife or girlfriend. One is a fairly normal and recognised, if not advisable, response in our society deep pain, one is not.

Actually, they aren’t. There have been hateful posts about Lauren and, in particular her appearance over the years. Those who tore her down are now likely falling over themselves with sympathies now.

The poor girl has been through so much. More than anyone should ever go through in a lifetime. I hope she is getting the help and support she desperately needs and the time she needs to heal.

This is an absolutely disgusting post. Women like you are part of the problem. Women who are so completely unable to centre women. Who always need to centre men and their feelings, no matter how terribly a man has made a woman his victim.

This mother had been to her baby's funeral that day too. But all you can think about is how hard it must have been for him, so no wonder he snapped and beat the crap out of the grieving mother. Its all about him.

Utterly disgusting. Women absorbing misogynistic, man-excusing crap like this is why society is in the mess it is regarding women.

And yes, that has made me angry, and no, I am not going to beat up someone smaller and weaker than me just because I feel angry.

His grief does not allow him to beat up his partner! What is it with people trying to excuse shitty behaviours because of grief?!

Yes grief makes it OK to break a bereaved mother’s eye socket only weeks after she gave birth. Why are there so many domestic violence apologists, I am horrified.

I am so so fucking tired of women being told they need to change men's aggression. No. I spend enough of my time and emotional energy navigating a world that is not built for me and dealing with interactions from men who think I owe them time, and attention and 'pretty'. They can sort their own shit out frankly.

If a woman can't go to her own babies funeral without being beaten up and then women being told that 'we need to change this' then thats fucking bullshit.

If you want to go support men be better men then go do that somewhere else instead of crawling all over a thread of sympathy for the woman that got beaten up.

Men and women behave differently. It is socially acceptable for women to express sadness. It is not socially acceptable for men to lay bare their emotions. That is one of the reasons that we, as a society, have such a big problem with male violence. So many men are emotionally inept. we need to change the conversation from blame and shame to mental health and family violence.

Do you mean “we” as women have to do this? Because it sounds like you do. If it’s not socially acceptable for men to lay bare their emotions, that is something that, first and foremost, needs to be addressed by men. I’m not sure we do need to stop shaming men who beat up women, tbh.

Hmm... strange how these men only "snap" behind closed doors.

They never "snap" out in public.

It's almost as if they are able to control themselves until they are in a place where they can beat up someone much eeaker than them without any witnesses or intervention 🤔

No one has forgotten than he has also lost his baby. No one will doubt his pain regarding that. Now, please explain how that is a reason to put his partner and the mother of the child that they lost and their other child, in hospital. Can you?

If you want to go support men be better men then go do that somewhere else instead of crawling all over a thread of sympathy for the woman that got beaten up

I agree with this whole heartedly.

Whilst there’s absolutely a discussion to be had around the culture societal expectations placed on men and the consequences along with possible solutions, a thread or space where women are dealing with the consequences of it isn’t the right platform.

women aren’t the ones that can ‘fix’ this, that’s for men. With womens support I’m sure but it needs to start and grow from somewhere much more deeply embedded.

If anyone ever wonders why women find it so hard to leave abusive men, look to this thread for answers. Imagine some of these male apologists and sympathisers here are sisters, mothers, healthcare professionals, educators. Imagine confiding in one that you’ve been beaten by a partner after losing your baby, and they respond by explaining to you that’s he’s grieving too😟
There can not be enough education around DV.

I went through this last year with my children’s father. They morning I walked through the police station doors that morning I knew it was done- I knew social services would be involved as a matter of protocol and I would never be taking him back. Why would I want to anyway?

I still had people like his stepmother pleading with me to drop the charges as it was the ‘kind’ thing to do. And telling me how ‘distraught’ he was when he was finally charged etc. A lot of women are brainwashed- usually by appalling relationships of their own- as can be seen here.

Lauren- I wish her the very best. I’m rooting for her to make the comeback of all comebacks- and if karma is truly a thing to completely outshine that dickhead Mark Wright in the future.

Can I just point out, again, that Laura, nor any other woman, was NOT beaten up because society does not ‘allow’ men to talk about feelings, nor because of grief, nor because of any other stress the man was under. Because other men deal silently with their feelings, and grief and stress without beating up women.

This is an issue with some men internalizing a belief that they can beat up women, and other men internalizing a belief that they cannot, no matter what life throws at them.

What needs to be addressed is why some men internalize the belief that they can beat up women. Focusing on stress and grief or inarticulateness around emotions is just a distraction from the actual issue.

This!

Yes, I agree with all of this. I think I worded my comment insensitively. I shouldn't have even mentioned CD. It's about Lauren, about women, about DV women face, about society being unsympathetic, about other women, institutions and professions being unsympathetic and patriarchal, about people questioning the truth in the statements of women and even going so far as insinuating a woman has provoked the guy when it's been proven (seriously?) 🫣

Fuck that.

Hundreds of parents very sadly lose babies. They somehow manage to not all "snap" and beat the grieving other partner.

He's violent and abusive and nobody should be giving him any slack.

Very true.

In the heat of the moment women rarely fight back as they know it will ‘inflame’ their aggressor. Plus they stand no chance anyway. Poor Lauren and Larose 😞

I am absolutely appalled by the DV apologists on this thread.
There is no excuse for violence. Grief is most certainly not an excuse. Particularly when the violence is directed at the other parent FFS .

@Whatagrapefruit156 are you okay? He has literally hospitalised the mother of his children. Strange how his rage didn't manifest in him beating up a man or someone bigger than him.

Nope, you're wrong.

Bloody hell, some people really will excuse men of everything won't they