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Lauren Goodger beaten after her babies funeral

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PutinSmellsPassItOn · 06/08/2022 01:17

Good God that poor, poor woman. How much more suffering can one woman take? First the loss of her baby and now this it's just horrific.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lauren-goodger-hospitalised-facial-injuries-27672451

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NetWithHoles · 06/08/2022 08:34

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I wondered also.

Dragmedown · 06/08/2022 08:35

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His need to exert control over a woman is what triggered him. Bastard.

Ducksinthebath · 06/08/2022 08:41

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 06/08/2022 08:32

Smashing someone’s face in is not a grief reaction!

I didn’t say it was, I simply said my reading was that marblemad was questioning if it was.

Dragmedown · 06/08/2022 08:42

Ducksinthebath · 06/08/2022 08:16

I feel people are piling on @marblemad somewhat unnecessarily. It may have been slightly clumsily worded but I absolutely didn’t read that comment as asking if or implying that the victim had precipitated the assault in some way. I read it more as whether this was a grief reaction. That isn’t remotely acceptable but it’s very different from suggesting it was the victim’s fault.

In any case, speculating about why an assault took place isn’t in great taste so maybe it’s time to draw a line under that aspect of the discussion.

It’s absolutely necessary to pile on @marblemad for the way he/she framed that comment. Any intelligent and sensitive person would not have posted such wording on a thread about a recently bereaved mother who has been beaten up. They quite rightly deserve all the feedback they are getting and will hopefully learn from it.

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 08:43

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I can answer that! It’s because he is a violent man with poor emotional regulation who believes it is justified for him to beat up women when his feelings get too much for him.

Hope that helps!

crochetmonkey74 · 06/08/2022 08:45

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Doesn't matter

Thesearmsofmine · 06/08/2022 08:45

Awful. I feel so badly for her.

minuette1 · 06/08/2022 08:46

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Are you serious?? You think she must have brought it upon herself??

Mumsyxxx · 06/08/2022 08:47

Terrible hope lauren is ok Sad

OneFrenchEgg · 06/08/2022 08:51

ShirleyPhallus
Wtaf. You think the problem is women who don’t fight back?

I think this means that women in a relationship with domestic violence are scared and mentally and physically broken down. Send the man to a woman who is ready to give the perpetrator what he deserves.
Its not a criticism of the women!

what he deserves would be a police investigation, not some woman who thinks she's hard or something ridiculous like that. Honestly wtf. So I should have asked a female friend to punch my ex husband and all would have been well?

BlueWhaleBay · 06/08/2022 08:53

Such a terrible chain of events for Lauren. I must admit I did not know who she was until I read she had lost her newborn right after her ex had died suddenly, and I was impressed with the dignity of her response.

I really hope that she receives all the love and care she so obviously needs, the pain must be unbearable.

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 08:56

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Poor men. Just can’t control their feelings. He greiving too. There was context to why he beat the crap out of the grieving mother, context you understand.

I was thinking it was because he was a violent man who beats up women, but now I see he was probably just a good man under pressure. I mean when I lost a baby my Ex, bastard though he was in many ways, never expressed any anger or violence to me. I also don’t notice this as a regular feature in the pregnancy loss boards either.

I guess this young man must be an especially compassionate and sensitive soul to have reacted the way he did to loss. And the most sensitive of people react to loss by beating up their fellow grievers. It’s odd you don’t see this more frequently as a feature at funerals? I guess other people are just not as sensitive and caring as this young man.

BlueWhaleBay · 06/08/2022 08:58

crochetmonkey74 · 06/08/2022 08:45

Doesn't matter

Lots of posters have picked up on the victim blaming tone of this post. I don’t want to add to that. Just to share that when my cousins baby died her husband got drunk, sped around the city and rained abuse on the police officers who picked him up. Terrible for everyone involved. Kudos to the officers who treated him with compassion as he screamed about the pain of holding his dead daughter.

I do not share this story to mitigate violent or criminal behaviour, just to say that I wonder whether such reactions from some men are to do with the macho stance to grief considered admirable by some.

Maray1967 · 06/08/2022 08:59

Pylon pal above has it right. He’s a pathetic person who takes his grief out by beating up a woman. There is no way he would take it out on his boss or a bloke bigger than him in the pub.
I hope she is being well looked after. She needs to be surrounded by love and compassion not violence.

Ilovemycatalot · 06/08/2022 09:05

Sadly Lauren seems to go for these bad boy types… She said in an interview once she likes these type of men. Her last ex was in prison for GBH. She really needs therapy and to stay away from these types of men but sadly I don’t think she will.

crochetmonkey74 · 06/08/2022 09:09

Lauren and others like her really worry me. The reality tv people seem to show no duty of care to people they make into celebrities. Likewise her agent etc. She is so vulnerable and we have seen this story before with other people. I know she is her own person and maybe the industry is broken but she needs better looking after

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 09:10

Ok, I have read a few more of the posts on this thread now.

I have now another reason why he beat up the grieving mother. Its because he is feeding off an undercurrent of belief in our culture that thinks it is 'understandable' for men to lose control of themselves and beat up women when they are under stress. This legitimises men behaving this way as they. 'can't help themselves'.

Of course, this rationale is nonsense. We all know that normal decent men, who have internalised how wrong it is for men to be violent to women, do not beat up their fellow grieving partner or are violent to their wives and girlfriends when they are under 'life stress'. Only men who already believe it is ok for them to beat up women to relieve themselves of 'bad feelings' do this.

So to posters seeking to 'understand the context' that 'triggered' this assault, look no further than yourselves. The attitudes you are espousing are the ones in our culture that this young man fed off to justify that assault.

Restawhile · 06/08/2022 09:11

Poor lovely Lauren 💐 she does not deserve this.

Arnaquer · 06/08/2022 09:12

I don't know much about Lauren but women like her who are reality tv stars do seem to attract a certain type of man. Same as Katie Price / Kerry Katona. Users and chancers on the make more interested in the lifestyle than the women themselves. Very sad.

MabelMoo23 · 06/08/2022 09:13

The minute I saw the news I knew it was her partner.

i really hope she has support around her

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 09:14

Just to share that when my cousins baby died her husband got drunk, sped around the city and rained abuse on the police officers who picked him up

You can surely see the difference between this and if he had beaten the crap out of your cousin? Would you be praising the compassionate response of the police if he had done that?

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/08/2022 09:19

Poor, poor woman. She's been a victim of blokes and trashy tabloid culture all her adult life. I hope this gives her an opportunity to reappraise and rebuild her life.

Mythologies · 06/08/2022 09:20

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 09:10

Ok, I have read a few more of the posts on this thread now.

I have now another reason why he beat up the grieving mother. Its because he is feeding off an undercurrent of belief in our culture that thinks it is 'understandable' for men to lose control of themselves and beat up women when they are under stress. This legitimises men behaving this way as they. 'can't help themselves'.

Of course, this rationale is nonsense. We all know that normal decent men, who have internalised how wrong it is for men to be violent to women, do not beat up their fellow grieving partner or are violent to their wives and girlfriends when they are under 'life stress'. Only men who already believe it is ok for them to beat up women to relieve themselves of 'bad feelings' do this.

So to posters seeking to 'understand the context' that 'triggered' this assault, look no further than yourselves. The attitudes you are espousing are the ones in our culture that this young man fed off to justify that assault.

Yes to all of this
we allow nearly 4 women a week to be killed by partners or ex partners.
a number that has not and is not going down.
They have released him on bail - presumably so he can try again
It’s not what’s wrong with “some men”
it is NOT women’s responsibility to not get killed by men.
there is something very wrong with the very fabric of our society and our attitude to male abuse of their partners

pylonpal · 06/08/2022 09:21

Ducksinthebath · 06/08/2022 08:41

I didn’t say it was, I simply said my reading was that marblemad was questioning if it was.

But that questioning is part of the problem. Because the belief underlying it, is that men experiencing 'difficult feelings' is an understandable mitigating factor in why men are violent to women.

And that dangerous belief does need to be robustly challenged. Because it leads to women being beaten up because men think they can justifiably express their feelings in acts of violence to women.

Staynow · 06/08/2022 09:21

This is just an awful thing to happen to anyone. I hope Lauren gets help for her grief and her self esteem and instead of going down the Katie Price/Kerry Katona path just stays single for a good while and concentrates on herself and her daughter.