Bye Bye Big Dog. Who is going to take over? Truss V Sunak Thread 12

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Here we are.

The trouble is, they've painted themselves into a corner by letting him stay on. It is ludicrous that, having said they couldn't work with him because he has no integrity, so many of them suddenly discovered that maybe they could manage for a few weeks longer. So inevitably he's still in the spotlight, he's their leader, they're going to have to field questions about him. If they had any sense of morality or even straight self-preservation they'd have seen this coming and booted him as soon as he resigned. As they didn't, they really should at least have the courtesy to answer those questions.

It would be good if the msm didn't cover Johnson's dress up jollies. No more photos printed from the official Downing Street photographer. It won't happen obviously.

At least while he’s in the news we have a vague idea what he’s up to. We all know what it means when a child goes very quiet.

Truss knows what a woman is. It's someone who shouldn't have rights over their sexual and reproductive health.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/jul/27/senior-tory-urges-liz-truss-to-explain-deletion-of-abortion-rights-from-statement-caroline-nokes

Liz Truss may talk about law and order, but look at her record as Justice Secretary, demoted by Theresa May after being ineffective.

So here is Liz... desperately appealing to her fanbase...

Very worrying

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-leadership-liz-truss-racial-b2132420.html?r=22666

Liz Truss has been accused of planning to put the fight for racial and gender equality in Whitehall “back 30 years” under a shock plan to axe anti-discrimination roles.
The Tory leadership race favourite is under fire over a civil service shake-up that would also embrace US-style “political appointees” in top roles – undermining effective government, it is claimed.

When is the next leadership tv debate ?
Anyone know ?

That is very true.

It is funny we all just think of a grown man in his late 50s , Boris Johnson , as a two year old toddler. I guess he'll forever be known as the Peter Pan of politics ( amongst other things)

Wasn't the politicisation of the civil service also an aspiration of Cummings?

Liz Truss is terrifying.

That article is worrying Rousette.

"The 2020 submission also called for private lawyers to be brought in to challenge the civil service’s “highly risk averse” legal team."

So they want to spend more public money to buy legal advice that tells them what they want to hear (although any advice will come with massive caveats and warnings). There will then be further legal actions etc which they will blame on leftie lawyers/judges applying the law.
Great for private practice lawyers. Not so good for fiscal responsibility.

I think there should be severe consequences for MPs who do this. Walking out of an interview to avoid answering uncomfortable questions should be a sackable offence. It wouldn't wash in any other job.

MPs are accountable to us, we are their boss. The media are asking them questions on our behalf. How dare they refuse to answer. If HR had me in an interview and were asking me questions about why my department were doing stuff which put the company at grave risk, I'd be out on my arse if I walked out and refuse to explain.

Quite. You know the saying "only in America!", well I'm guessing people say that about us now 🤔

Does anyone know when the next debate is? I think there is a Sky one next week. To be honest I haven't been able to face watching one yet but I feel like I should look at one. Might be a mad idea.

Just seen that Keir Starmer has sacked the shadow Transport Minister for joining the RMT's picket line. Keir Starmer has lost the bloody plot and if he carries on like this we're going to be stuck with the tories for another decade. FFS!

Starmer is becoming more conservative by the day :(
He has sacked Sam Tarry for speaking on tv in support of the strikers.

I thought he'd been sacked for changing the party message during a tv interview, not for attending the picket line.

I don't necessarily agree with the Labour message but it's basic collective responsibility. It won't have come as a surprise to Sam Tarry.

He didn't sack him for being on the picket line but for speaking to the media without prior oppproval.

Labour: "This isn’t about appearing on a picket line. Members of the frontbench sign up to collective responsibility. That includes media appearances being approved and speaking to agreed frontbench positions".

I am not sure what to make of it but if MPs were warned then it didn't leave him with much choice.

And something tells me those private lawyers will be paid at rather higher than the legal aid rates they allow for people needing help with trivia like their freedom, their children's safety, their homes, nonsense like that.

Certain parts of the media and their adherents will put their spin on the sacking of the truth don't suit

*if the truth

This is very worrying, crisis point

twitter.com/MartinSLewis/status/1552333029951131648?t=CYDPXhwrxlu8pM21i_RvXg&s=19

NEWS: It gets worse!
I've just got uodated price cap predictions from Cornwallinsight

The latest spike in year-ahead wholesale price means the OCT cap prediction is now UP 78% (so £3,500/yr on typical bills) & likely up again in Jan.

Its will be desperate. Intervention needed

energy bills hitting £500 in January alone.

😂

An unflushable turd

EXCL: Boris Johnson allies are plotting to find a safe Tory seat for PM for a potential comeback to No 10 - amid concerns his Uxbridge constituency could be at risk.
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