Who should replace Johnson? Explain your answer.

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Who should replace Johnson? Explain your answer.

Because she's been pressured into it by the ridiculous media feeding frenzy that was whipped up.

So a woman is now paying extra tax, above and beyond what the law of our land requires to prop up her husband's career.

Not sure that's what Mumsnetters should think is a great thing.

If people don't like the tax law in this country, the answer is surely for the law to be changed. Not to pressure someone's independently wealthy wife to pay tax she doesn't owe?

She didn’t pay tax because for tax purposes she was a non-Dom. Despite living in this country. Had she been like me and you, she’d have paid taxes from the start. HTH. Greedy couple.

How do you propose one changes the law. The Tories will keep the laws to advantage them.

Also, it's easy to say greedy bastards but show me one person (other than Rishi's wife) who voluntarily pays more tax than they're required to by law?

This wasn't some kind of tax scam or tax avoidance scheme a consultant had dreamed up. It's how everyone who was born in another country pays tax.

Income earned in your birth country = pay tax on it there
Income earned in the UK = pay tax on it here

She was paying both. She was paying all the tax owed on all the money she had.

I think we’re going round in circles. Should have paid her taxes. She has millions and the wild is not at the door. Her husband even had the green card escape plan to USA.

Greed will be his downfall.

*wild meaning wolf

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas There you go. £20 million avoided with non-Dom status. Greedy, wouldn’t you say?

She did pay tax from the start. In the land of her birth.

Has it occurred to you that she might be proud to be an Indian? That she might not want to give up her status as an Indian woman?

I might live elsewhere one day, I highly doubt I'd give up my UK citizenship if I did.

And non-dom status has been in place since the time of the French Revolution so there have been plenty of years Labour Govts could have changed it if they wanted to...

India doesn't allow its citizens to have citizenship in another country and she has said, on record, that she intends to go back to India to live as her parents get older.

99% of Tory sleaze is true. This story should never have been a story (ditto, the green card. What's the problem with having a green card in the Govt? It's not a life commitment nor a commitment not to ever work in the US again).

"Had she been like me and you..."

Well, if I was Indian and had only moved here six years ago, didn't want to give up my Indian citizenship and intended to go back to my birth country in the not too distant future I would be non-dom too. Because that's the law here.

I'd do exactly as she was doing - follow the law and pay tax on my Indian income in India and tax on my UK income in the UK.

I'm pretty sure India need the tax income of an Indian person on money earned in India through an Indian company on Indian soil more than we do.

So you didn’t actually read the article. She avoided up to £20 million in tax by declaring she is non-Dom for tax purposes. Despite living here. I don’t care if she’s a proud Indian or not. Truly, couldn’t give a tiny one. She’s been greedy. Greed seems to be the overarching issue with the Tories. Sleaze as well.

I'd be more interested in Sajid Javid's non dom background than Akshata Murty's family wealth tbh or Rishi & J-Dog's offshore interests which I'm sure are legal but are undoubtedly rich retaining wealth.....

Tax is more likely to have been paid outside of India. Mauritius or similar tax havens benefit very nicely from offering low tax arrangements.

If you are wealthy you can generally choose where you pay tax or at least orchestrate your payments carefully.

All legal.

The article I linked to above explains how it is legal to pay thousands per year to declare yourself non-dom so you can then avoid paying millions in tax in the country you live in Sorry for the bold. It boils my piss to see the greed in these people.

But hopefully that will be his downfall. Greed.

I can hardly bear to read about this sort of thing, because it's so unjust.

Plus the FPN.

I think putting him up against an opposition who think if you get one you should resign (fwiw I agree) is just giving them more ammunition.

I have no interest because they are all Tories and ergo politically all scum to me.

I am vehemently anti-Tory, @SmellyWellyWoo - but I am interested in this, because whoever they choose will be Prime Minister, and will affect everyone’s lives!

To me they are all bad people. Just because someone might be a bit bad rather than very bad doesn't make it any better. They're all vile.

Totally agree.

I don’t disagree with you about the awfulness of the Tories, @SmellyWellyWoo - but one of them WILL be PM - I feel that I have to take an interest in who will be governing the country - if nothing else, because whoever they choose will lead them into the next General Election, and that will have a direct effect on how electable or unelectable they are.

I actually think this is dangerous shit put out by the Boris apologists, who want to convince us that they're all as bad as each other. I have a very low opinion of most politicians, and especially of most Tories, but I do think that there are many of them who have far more integrity than our current PM. I don't subscribe to the idea that they're all as bad as each other. He is far, far worse than the vast majority.

I wouldn’t want to see either Sunak or Zahawi as British Prime Minister.

How can rich people - and Sunak is from a rich and privileged background compared to many in the U.K., as are all with professional parents - represent the descendants of miners in places like Bolsover, Oldham or Stoke. Zahawi is from a very rich foreign banking family and wasn’t born here. Neither of them could possibly represent the ordinary British worker who can’t afford to travel to the next town nowadays.

Javid is a better option than either of those, although his opportunism would worry me.

I’d rather have Tugendhat: military and foreign office experience combined with some sort of integrity, I hope.

If I can pick a fantasy team then Rory Stewart and Baroness Warsi.
I liked Kemi Badenoch’s article in the Times today and I agree it needs to be someone who wasn’t in a cabinet job under Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson because if you went along with it then you condoned his behaviour.

Out of the big hitters so far Sajid Javid would be my least worst option.

Grant Schapps is now standing - heaven help us.

IIRC he’s the one who introduced Help to Buy, which was bound to push up new build prices - expensive enough anyway - and just put even bigger bonuses into builders’ pockets.