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Ukraine Invasion: Part 28

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MagicFox · 24/06/2022 11:38

Thread 28 begins, thanks all for the company and resources

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OwlsDance · 25/06/2022 19:57

Argh, EU are rethinking transit to Kaliningrad ban. Lithuania very unhappy. They have a right to veto it, but it will then really put Lithuania in spotlight. Bloody cowards.

Igotjelly · 25/06/2022 20:39

OwlsDance · 25/06/2022 19:57

Argh, EU are rethinking transit to Kaliningrad ban. Lithuania very unhappy. They have a right to veto it, but it will then really put Lithuania in spotlight. Bloody cowards.

Where have you seen that? I’ve seen some softening of language by the EU Commission but nothing official.

Tillsforthrills · 25/06/2022 21:18

OwlsDance · 25/06/2022 19:57

Argh, EU are rethinking transit to Kaliningrad ban. Lithuania very unhappy. They have a right to veto it, but it will then really put Lithuania in spotlight. Bloody cowards.

Just more bowing to Russia and made to look weak. Awful to leave Lithuania in the lurch.

OwlsDance · 25/06/2022 21:30

@Igotjelly on Lithuanian news and Russian too. They are obviously saying now how "Russia has won" although nothing is decided yet.

Igotjelly · 25/06/2022 21:37

OwlsDance · 25/06/2022 21:30

@Igotjelly on Lithuanian news and Russian too. They are obviously saying now how "Russia has won" although nothing is decided yet.

That’s really interesting to hear! Thanks. It’s great to have people on this thread able to follow other news sources!

MissConductUS · 25/06/2022 21:45

Ijsbear · 25/06/2022 12:49

I dont think the US is going to forget about Ukraine at all, at least not while Biden is president.

it's back to the Cold War, warm version.

I agree completely. It is not off our radar whatsoever.

Thereisnolight · 25/06/2022 21:52

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MagicFox · 26/06/2022 08:05

Russia tracked residential buildings in central ukraine last night. Meanwhile Putin made an unusual late night dash to the Kremlin. Reports suggest he was making some kind of emergency statement but Peskov denies this without saying why Putin was ushered there so late.

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MagicFox · 26/06/2022 08:05

Attacked, not tracked sorry

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Ijsbear · 26/06/2022 09:04

Key Takeaways

The Russian Ministry of Defense stated that the leadership of its central and southern groups of forces fighting Ukraine has changed, confirming ISW’s previous assessment that the Russian high command is restructuring the leadership of operations in Ukraine.

Ukrainian intelligence officials emphasized that Belarus remains highly unlikely to join the war in Ukraine.

Ukrainian sources confirmed that Russian forces have taken full control of Severodonetsk and are fighting within Lysychansk.

Russian forces made measured gains to the north and southeast of Bakhmut.

Russian forces continued unsuccessful attempts to advance southeast of Izyum toward Slovyansk.

Russian forces continued positional battles north of Kharkiv City.

Russian forces attempted to strengthen their defensive lines and recapture lost positions on the Southern Axis.

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Kyiv Independent Telegram channel

⚡️Greece no longer accepts visa applications from Russian citizens.

⚡️New York Times: Allied commandos coordinate supplies and train Ukrainians.
The New York Times cites official sources who state that special forces operatives play a large role in organizing and delivering armaments into Ukraine to help stave off Russia's invasion, as well as providing training. The same sources report that the CIA has been playing a significant role in delivering crucial intelligence to Kyiv.

⚡️BBC: Russia's debt deadline approaches threathening default.
Russia is on the verge of debt default - the first one since 1998 - if the country fails a June 26 deadline to make its $100 million interest payment. Although BBC reports that Russia has the funds and is willing to pay, it cannot transfer the money to international creditors due to sanctions.

⚡️Russian military reportedly kidnaps families of Ukrainian soldiers in occupied areas of Mykolaiv, Kherson oblasts.

⚡️CNN: Biden visits Europe to rally support for Ukraine as international attention fades.

⚡️Energoatom: Russian missile passed 'critically low' over nuclear power plant.

⚡️Biden confirms G7 to impose ban on Russian gold imports.

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UkraineNOW

⚡️The President of Lithuania Gitanas Nausèda said that Lithuania won't make concessions to Russia concerning the issue of transit of the goods to Kaliningrad.
"We've discussed this issue with Ursula von der Leyen, the Head of the European Commission, in Brussels. It's clear that Lithuania must and will apply EU sanctions. Lithuania must and will maintain control over the goods transported through its territory, and there can be no talk of any "corridors," just as there can be no talk of Russia's concessions in response to threats by the Kremlin," Nausèda said.
A reminder: Lithuania has restricted the transit of sanctioned goods to Kaliningrad Region through its territory.

The Indonesian President will visit Ukraine and Russia on a peacekeeping mission. Joko Widodo said that the Russian-Ukrainian war has catastrophic consequences for the whole world, so he invites the parties to sit down at the negotiating table, reports Reuters.

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MagicFox · 26/06/2022 09:07

Don't suppose anybody has a share token for this Times article? www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nato-has-no-choice-but-to-support-kyiv-our-future-security-depends-upon-it-sndxq5j32

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Hillsmakeyoustrong · 26/06/2022 09:22

The carrot approach 👆

Igotjelly · 26/06/2022 09:29

Seems a bit tame in comparison to nuclear tidal waves that were promised last month 😂

thereisonlyoneofme · 26/06/2022 09:40

Russia are not being attacked inside are they ? Perhaps if the people saw their homes and infrastructure being destroyed they MIGHT come out against the war ?

Igotjelly · 26/06/2022 09:43

More reports in the last few minutes of fresh strikes against Kyiv. Russia seeking to send a message ahead of the G7 meeting.

Ijsbear · 26/06/2022 11:41

thereisonlyoneofme · 26/06/2022 09:40

Russia are not being attacked inside are they ? Perhaps if the people saw their homes and infrastructure being destroyed they MIGHT come out against the war ?

There have been a few against oil depots etc. Not many (that are reported) - one handful maybe.

in non-Ukraine news, this is unbelievable

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/26/illinois-mary-miller-roe-wade-abortion-verdict-victory-for-white-life-trump

Illinois Republican Mary Miller told a crowd at a rally held alongside former president Donald Trump that the supreme court’s decision to overturn Roe v Wade was a “victory for white life”.

“President Trump, on behalf of all the Maga patriots in America, I want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in the supreme court yesterday,” she said, drawing cheers from the crowd in Illinois.

MagicFox · 26/06/2022 11:57

What's happening in America is very worrying. Can you imagine a US with trump or a trump puppet in power while all of this is going on?

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MagicFox · 26/06/2022 11:58

Putin-stoked civil unrest. The exploitation of ideological difference is...very well done

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Ijsbear · 26/06/2022 12:15

MagicFox · 26/06/2022 11:58

Putin-stoked civil unrest. The exploitation of ideological difference is...very well done

Yes :(

I am getting to the stage that with the constant provocations by Russia that I think NATO needs to take stronger action (eg Estonian airspace, the Lithuania situation). I think Russia is wanting to provoke a full out war and there are 3 choices:

  1. do nothing, carry on as we are
  2. take measured action
  3. declare war

I would go for 2 at this stage. Blockade Russia ports, declare that any incursions into airspace will be considered a directly hostile action and they will be shot down. Isolate Russia further and let them know that NATO -has- teeth.

The noises from China about Taiwan are worrying but so is the situation generally.

MagicFox · 26/06/2022 12:25

A full out war with nato/the world? How would their military manage it, unless nuclear?

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MagicFox · 26/06/2022 12:26

The sino-US stuff is another related issue too. Hope we don't see a China-Russia alliance actually coming together militarily

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Hillsmakeyoustrong · 26/06/2022 12:44

Agree @Ijsbear

DuncinToffee · 26/06/2022 12:45

Is there anything in this thread, eg unusual for Putin to arrive in this fashion?

twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1540795050279534593?t=O0PWBIKnTjue4Yy6Xx8RbQ&s=19

Putin urgently came to the Kremlin, the reason is unknown.
The cortege with Vladimir Putin arrived at the Kremlin at 23:00.

Yarnasaurus · 26/06/2022 12:50

MagicFox · 26/06/2022 09:07

Here you go:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7faf2760-f3e9-11ec-aa2c-ffef8d17929b?shareToken=e781f6b7b3a9e95857bf1dc3ff10f569

(I guess I've de-lurked! Huge thanks to everyone on this thread)

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