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So exhausted with ex and his wife “managing me”

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LissyBooks · 29/05/2022 16:16

Divorced 10 years when children were very small (3 DC). Ex DH was useless, never bothered unless it was the ‘fun’ stuff, didn’t get up at night or in the mornings, was unemployed for two years whilst I go up to work at 5am.

We divorced and ex met his now wife. He started his own business and the pair of them are very successful financially. Beautiful house, 3 holidays a year, no children of their own. My life is the absolute opposite, I live in a run down rental, work all the hours I can and I’m single.

We share the children 50/50 - no maintenance paid.

Over the years ex has morphed into a “perfect parent” along with his wife. Whereas every decision I make is critiqued and criticised by them. Nothing I ever do is good enough. It’s almost like they see themselves as the saviours of the children from me. They complain I shout, they complain I’m not home enough, they advise me on parenting strategies, books to read, food to eat. I was criticised for giving paracetamol for a headache instead of giving it time to go away on its own (they are both health/gym obsessed).

I am certainly not a perfect parent, I do shout, I do lose my temper but I am by no means some benefits Britain mum who needs to be told how to raise my kids. I work in a senior job with above average wage, my children are
healthy, happy, good school attendance and well rounded kids.

Ive just received an essay from the stepmum that they are “concerned” about returning the children on Monday because I had an argument with the 16 year old (because I won’t be shouted at or disrespected in my own home). But any lashing out or “fuck off” from me is taken as proof of my awfulness

Theyve never had to cope on their own with 3 children. They have money, a cleaner, extended family and resources and they are looking down their noses at me constantly and judging the way I breathe

I feel like I’m living in the twilight zone!

OP posts:
yourestandingonmyneck · 29/05/2022 19:21

TwinklingFairyLights · 29/05/2022 17:19

I'd be asking them to put their money where their mouth is - help you with a deposit to buy a place. Your kids deserve a nice home and it'll all be going to them as inheritance anyway.

You think the OP's ex's new wife should buy OP a house? 🤣🤣🤣

No, I think the dad should though.

No way would I want my kids spending half their time in sub standard housing - can't understand why anybody would if they had the money to avoid it.

I also feel, from what the OP has written here, that he owes her from when he sponged off her when they were together.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 29/05/2022 19:22

Through what means is she making these comments to you?

I think delete and ignore anything that doesn’t directly need to be discussed about the children. Don’t engage with it. Literally just ignore it. don’t get into verbal conversations.

in reply to the essay she sent about 16 yr old and arguments I’d simply reply something along the lines of “ please let me know if there is any change to drop off time, otherwise I’ll assume the children will return at 12 as usual”.

i would chat with your 16 year old when they get home. Not to put him in the middle but just to ask if he was worried about coming home and how you can work together to make home life a bit more harmonious.

BraveryBot9to5 · 29/05/2022 19:23

Miscfeminista · 29/05/2022 19:17

By reading this and responses separating sounds like effing nightmare. I don't know if it's worse living with a person like OP describes or having to share custody with them. Just a heads up for us who want to separate

It's sad but true. 18 months after I left my x, I was still ''enmeshed'' still defending myself. Even five years afterwards when I had cut him off, I was still reading books about narcissism and nodding. It was a good TEN years after I left him before I was ready to do the work I needed to do for myself. But it's still worth it. If I were still with him, still being criticised 24/7 I would be a basket case by now. It can take a long time to get to mental freedom though. It's not as quick as walking away.

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Catfordthefifth · 29/05/2022 19:24

@yourestandingonmyneck you've got to be joking? You'd say this if op was a man? Somehow I doubt it.

He owes her nothing. She accepted him doing nothing, then outside of the marriage he's done well. That's nothing to do with her, is it?

Beaucoup · 29/05/2022 19:25

Perhaps your 16 year old doesn’t want to be “lashed out” at, asked to “fuck off” and doesn’t share the world views of a parent who sneers at benefits recipients? Perhaps that’s a legitimate position to hold?

AnneLovesGilbert · 29/05/2022 19:30

It sounds like you’d rather your ex was skint, unemployed and a disengaged shit parent. Surely it’s better for your children that he’s professionally successful, healthy, happy and engaged, that the children get nice holidays. Especially if they can’t enjoy some of these things with you. You sound very resentful of how he’s changed his life.

You don’t need to have any contact with his wife, if you don’t want to hear from then block her and tell your ex you’ll only liaise with him.

If their parenting doesn’t involve shouting, swearing or losing it then good for them and lucky for the kids. You’ve got to know that’s better than the alternative.

If you’re jealous of what they have and how they are it might be healthier to funnel it into improving your situation however you can. Being bitter and angry only hurts you, I doubt they care, and it’s likely hurting your children.

Crazyhousewife · 29/05/2022 19:31

There are many judgemental comments as well as judgemental ex and partner. I think you need to take some time to yourself and evaluate your situation. Maybe the eldest would benefit from some more time spent with dad, this will give you time to reflect on your situation and how you are handling it. You clearly have a lot on with work and running the home and children and this may lead to you lashing out as you state, although not from a place of hate just from frustration in your everyday life. Your 16 year old may get a shock at dads and dad may get a shock about what the teen years are like full time and may be more supportive. I would also suggest that you leave them a message stating that there parental opinions aren’t necessary as you would not offer yours to them. Also, have you spoken to your landlord about your rental. Good luck mama and remember to breathe when in situations that are testing with your children, these teen years will be a test to you.

Andouillette · 29/05/2022 19:31

Beaucoup · 29/05/2022 19:25

Perhaps your 16 year old doesn’t want to be “lashed out” at, asked to “fuck off” and doesn’t share the world views of a parent who sneers at benefits recipients? Perhaps that’s a legitimate position to hold?

Perhaps you need to go and read the OP again? Nowhere does it say that she told her child to fuck off.

CruCru · 29/05/2022 19:32

I think this is a good idea. Also, having someone send a factual one liner in response to a long essay on the OP’s faults will really annoy the ex’s wife.

CruCru · 29/05/2022 19:34

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 29/05/2022 19:22

Through what means is she making these comments to you?

I think delete and ignore anything that doesn’t directly need to be discussed about the children. Don’t engage with it. Literally just ignore it. don’t get into verbal conversations.

in reply to the essay she sent about 16 yr old and arguments I’d simply reply something along the lines of “ please let me know if there is any change to drop off time, otherwise I’ll assume the children will return at 12 as usual”.

i would chat with your 16 year old when they get home. Not to put him in the middle but just to ask if he was worried about coming home and how you can work together to make home life a bit more harmonious.

Sorry, my message was in response to this one.

Catfordthefifth · 29/05/2022 19:34

CruCru · 29/05/2022 19:32

I think this is a good idea. Also, having someone send a factual one liner in response to a long essay on the OP’s faults will really annoy the ex’s wife.

Ah yes, being petty and childish is the answer. Dear me.

DelphiniumBlue · 29/05/2022 19:35

If ex is that much better off than you, then he should be contributing maintenance even if you do have the dc 50:50.
The children should have a similar standard of living wherever they are.
HTH

CruCru · 29/05/2022 19:35

Nothing childish or petty about not engaging in drama. A long essay is designed to create drama. A factual response will remove the OP from it.

Blowthemandown · 29/05/2022 19:36

Get him to pay maintenance. Ignore anything else not contact related. Remember kids over 15 can choose where to live - if your kids choose them, you have to accept it. Ultimately they will know who did the hard stuff, even if it feels unjust to you. Sounds like you need a break from it tbh. You haven’t helped yourself with the ‘benefits Britain’ comment but I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply all people on benefits are lazy scroungers, perhaps you feel the ex thinks that way and you were just including yourself, but I
can see why people would be offended. As for them being well off and successful, again you have to let that go. It will just eat you up otherwise. I am sure you’d like some acknowledgement/apology from the ex but realistically it won’t happen, even if he has some kind of epiphany - if you want that out in the open you need to have a sensible conversation with him.

Catfordthefifth · 29/05/2022 19:36

Blowthemandown · 29/05/2022 19:36

Get him to pay maintenance. Ignore anything else not contact related. Remember kids over 15 can choose where to live - if your kids choose them, you have to accept it. Ultimately they will know who did the hard stuff, even if it feels unjust to you. Sounds like you need a break from it tbh. You haven’t helped yourself with the ‘benefits Britain’ comment but I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply all people on benefits are lazy scroungers, perhaps you feel the ex thinks that way and you were just including yourself, but I
can see why people would be offended. As for them being well off and successful, again you have to let that go. It will just eat you up otherwise. I am sure you’d like some acknowledgement/apology from the ex but realistically it won’t happen, even if he has some kind of epiphany - if you want that out in the open you need to have a sensible conversation with him.

He doesn't owe her any maintenance.

CruCru · 29/05/2022 19:39

Yeah, if he has the children 50:50 then he won’t pay any maintenance.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:39

I'd take the above posters who are on benefits than a snob who "lashes out" and swears at a 16 year old.

Can't think why they have concerns.

You mention their school attendance and being well rounded - how is their mental health?

whynotwhatknot · 29/05/2022 19:41

Reminds me of my dsis ex-left when their child was 3 sporadically saw him on and off and now claims hes the best parent in the worlds because he throws money at his dc and slags off my dsis saying she doesnt look after them proerply

i wouldnt take that shit from his wife though bugger all t do with her

ballsdeep · 29/05/2022 19:45

BlackTourmaline · 29/05/2022 16:54

Perhaps the 16 year old wants to live with them. Older children should choose how and when they want contact. That’s how it worked with my 2 dcs at that age.

I think youre saying this to be nasty to the op. MN loves beating people when they are down.

OP it must be really hard for you. As pp suggested I would be asking for maintenance. I hope youre ok

candlesandpitchforks · 29/05/2022 19:46

So the mum part in me would pretty concerned about you "lashing out" and telling your child to fuck off.

The step mum part in me wonders why they are saying this at all. The kids maybe ? Or maybe they are actually concerned. I would be but isn't mention it unless my SDC had said they were being abused ect.

Tbh you sound a bit jealous that your partners done a u turn on his life and you think their life's easy. That's a pretty easy judgement call from outside looking in.

Maybe the SM is a good influence, maybe she's ready to kill him. Who knows what brought about this change, but surely your grateful as it will benefit your kids ?

Either way though the emotions you are feeling will spill over to the kids. I wanted to put this in a kinder but the benefits comment as really gotten to me tbh. If you judge people expect to be judged. Reap what you sow and all that jazz

Fifi0102 · 29/05/2022 19:46

Just ignore her nothing to do with her but stop lashing out at your DS. So many men do this can't be bothered, but when a new woman comes on the scene they morph into super dad. I wonder why that is?

yourestandingonmyneck · 29/05/2022 19:47

Catfordthefifth · 29/05/2022 19:24

@yourestandingonmyneck you've got to be joking? You'd say this if op was a man? Somehow I doubt it.

He owes her nothing. She accepted him doing nothing, then outside of the marriage he's done well. That's nothing to do with her, is it?

Eh? Yes, I'd say it regardless of whether she was the mother or father.

The kids should have a decent standard of living with each of them. Can't understand why any decent parent wouldn't want that.

If he doesn't want that, fine, but he really needs to stop criticising then, which was my initial point.

itwasntmetho · 29/05/2022 19:48

My child is not that old yet, but from friends older children and the challenges they have I thought it was very normal to have conflict in the older teen years. I also remember at college age me and many of my friends butting heads with parents, why does the OP have to be so far above things that are so normal to other parents of teens?
The thing with them not returning the child would be cruel, every relationship has ups and downs and if they don't return the child as planned then the OP's relationship with her Son will be suspended at it's lowest point.

Beachbreak2411 · 29/05/2022 19:49

You told your child to “fuck off”??? I was so in your corner initially but this reads like you are jealous of ex and their life. I’m a broke single mum and was made homeless by my parents whilst they were building 5bedroom houses for my brothers. Your kids are who is important. Not your ego

Fifi0102 · 29/05/2022 19:49

yourestandingonmyneck · 29/05/2022 19:47

Eh? Yes, I'd say it regardless of whether she was the mother or father.

The kids should have a decent standard of living with each of them. Can't understand why any decent parent wouldn't want that.

If he doesn't want that, fine, but he really needs to stop criticising then, which was my initial point.

That's child support works in the USA they want the children to have the same standard of living in each home. Doesn't apply here though.

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