Boris and his fines part 4

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Previous thread. More to come on the subject matter

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Well.... Johnson was wandering around shaking hands and ignoring it all. Nothing surprises me about him. There is no way he would adhere to any restrictions and as they say... the fish rots from the head down. So that would creep through his cabinet and all those civil servants that the rules didn't apply to them.

100 plus FPN's is a drop in the ocean to what really went on I think.

Will we ever see the full Sue Gray report?

Covid was rife at number 10 before Boris Johnson ended up in hospital , they all caught it. Carrie was about 8 months pregnant with Wilfred and he was born a few weeks after BJ came out of there.

God knows. I can only imagine there are so many parties to look at, and that's why it's taking so long. They're up to Christmas nearly aren't they...

I don't think the police investigation is going through the parties in date order. Unless I missed the November Abba party?

Well given that they avoided publishing the Lebedev papers, despite being instructed by Parliament to do so, I have my doubts that the Grey report will be published in full.
If it is published I suspect it will come out in August when Parliament is in recess.

I'm not sure. There was publicity about Johnson interviewing someone next door to Abba music in the flat a couple of weeks ago. So I imagine it's been done but who knows, they're only our government, and we're kept in the dark

2 by elections on Thursday that didn't go well for the Tories

We had Nicola Sturgeon who had a daily televised update. No doubt most of you trust her much more than BJ. Same rate of death and higher numbers of elderly patients sent to their deaths in care homes. The virus didn't care about who ate cake or had parties. What they probably knew more than most in No 10 was that this is a disease that kills the elderly in the main. No 10 is full of young workers

Oh @derxa do stop. I’m beginning to think someone’s hijacked your account. You used to be so sensible.

What they probably knew more than most in No 10 was that this is a disease that kills the elderly in the main. No 10 is full of young workers

So do you think they ignored the workplace risk assessments because it's full of young people?

Boris Johnson - 57 years old

And he 'nearly died ' - so you would have really hoped that Number 10 would have had a risk assessment that protected ALL its occupants.

Remember when Johnson and Sunak got pinged and they initially tried to get out of isolating by claiming they were piloting a new system?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/18/boris-johnson-and-rishi-sunak-will-not-isolate-after-being-pinged-says-no-10

We should have known back then that they were following a different set of rules to the rest of us.

The virus didn't care about who ate cake or had parties

If you have a virulent disease, you try to reduce contact between people. Some contact may be essential but you try to minimise contact.

So in a sense, having parties would give the virus more of a chance to spread than if there were no parties.

The care home scandal affects the whole of the UK and Sturgeon included.

I haven't heard of any parties in Holyrood

What they probably knew more than most in No 10 was that this is a disease that kills the elderly in the main.

Given that it's the elderly who are more likely to vote Tory, you might think that they would have taken more care with them.

Does this help to account for their recent disastrous election results - which they tried to pretend hadn't happened.

What they probably knew more than most in No 10 was that this is a disease that kills the elderly in the main.

They did, which is why the way they handled care homes is so horrific.

It's really not very clever to go and kill your supporters off though, is it?

Partygate had the most damage re local elections

over elderly people dying (bit blunt all that obviously awful for families and so on)

It's never been about cake or canapés - it is about setting emergency public health legislation to minimise contact between people and then flagrantly ignoring it. The subsequent cover up compounded the lies and misdirections.

If you insist people restrict their lives you damn well follow the same laws - or answer why they shouldn't apply to you.

No 10 is full of young workers

Is it?
I doubt that.

The virus didn't care about who ate cake or had parties

What? I don't understand. It was passed on through human transmission so what do you mean?
You won't be catching it if you aren't in proximity of someone else... parties would be the easiest way to catch it.

Partygate had the most damage re local elections

Partygate was the last straw

The care homes deaths were worse in Scotland. No parties in Holyrood it's true. A completely different culture with alcohol banned at work I should imagine.

Donors over voters

I find the polling chart interesting if you look the biggest dips are Cummings in 2020 then partygate

Together with Brexit he’s managed to impact so much

graphical summary here for anyone interested

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

I totally agree strange as it may seem.