Gas & electric has trebled - surely it's time to vote the Tories out now?

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I've been waiting to see how much it'd go up by and the bill's arroved - it's now just under £300 a month. That's more than 10% of my monthly income.

I've had very low gas readings recently as our heating isn't working properly. We just had a cold winter as we couldn't afford to get it fixed, I guess next winter is going to be cold too. This is the UK in the 21st Century, FFS!

What is it going to take for people to vote these fuckers out? They're bleeding us dry and destroying our children's future. And, how many dead under Covid, due to their mismanagement of the crisis? More concerned with giving lucrative contracts to their mates than lives or well being of the general population. Their parties are a symptom of this attitude. We are absolutely not "all in it together".

Does anyone really still think this group of entitled, self-serving, priviledged wankers have our best interests at heart?

My local ward is a Lib Dem-Tory marginal. I don't usually vote Lib Dem, but I will this year in the local elections to get these fuckers out.

Who's joining me for some tactical voting?

but seriously, if you vote Tory, then clearly your wealthy enough so things like womens refuges, cost of living and the nhs are of no concern to you

And yet I here I am - grew up in working class house in a very working class Northern town, I used to work in a safeguarding role in education, I now work for the NHS, and I also know people who work in roles with vulnerable women. I also have a disabled child. So I can vouch that it’s not just wealthy people with no interest in the NHS or vulnerable women or children planning to vote for the Tories.

I agree.

New story from the end of last year:

Tories received £1.3m from fossil fuel interests and climate sceptics since 2019

OP is proving why some people shouldnt get a vote- it’s not one less Torie ffs, you have council elections not a general, your MP will remain the same. This sending a message to Westminster nonsense !

Last post should say odd not one*

I don't agree Onlyfools. Not everyone has an interest in politics and actually I think one of the 'purest' ways in is when you see how fucked over everyone is getting and not just your own suffering. It's power in numbers.
That's just my opinion though.

I'm not voting back in our corrupt labour councillors just so they can give backhanders to their mates and sign off dodgy planning deal
This doesn’t happen. Just because you don’t like the decisions made, doesn’t mean people are taking backhanders. I’ve been a councillor, trust me, we don’t get offered them and if it did happen the Audit Commission would be investigating in seconds.
if you genuinely think there are dodgy deals then report to The Audit Commission.

What's is got to do with the Tories again?

How far back or abstract do you want to go?
Privatisation? (Seen Sid?)
Windfall tax?
Boring old Capitalist cronyism?

I have so many issues with your posts I don't know where to start...... let's pluck some stuff out. Windfall tax, great in principle, but the Oil and Gas companies are leading investors in renewable energy, they already pay super tax on extraction, and are already moving away from fossil fuels. The biggest investors in Oil and Gas are pension companies not individuals, Tory or otherwise. It is in all out interests to keep private and civil service pensions affordable.

Stop trotting out the Covid deaths. We are pretty much in line with everyone else, and no-one did anything much different. It has yet to be proven that anyone in the Tory party had any benefit from any Covid contract. If they did, it will have come out by now surely?? Yes, lots of money spiffed away, but then again, so did everyone else.

Energy price increases, cost of living, Covid, these are all global issues. Past governments were complacent, current governments are have slightly different solutions, but at the end of the day, no-one, no-one, has a perfect solution for any of it. Not the Tories, not Labour, not the EU, not any European country, not the US.

OP what is your perfect solution?

Sorry I had a brain fart moment, yes you're right, and I do know that really, honest!

Doesn't change my question though - I can't believe people still support them given all they've said and done (or not done).

They're parasitic chancers, I don't understand how that's not obvious at this point?

I would rather freeze and starve under right wing misogyny that have my sex based rights, and in fact my existence as a woman, written out of law in order that I can be made to do sex work and have my children mutilated and made dependent on drugs under left wing misogyny.

Yeah. Life is way more comfortable as one man's property, thank you. Or no man's property. That's an option the Left doesn't seem to offer any more.

I've never yet voted Tory but I'm getting close, especially being told that it's patronising to think that the majority of people don't know what they are voting for. I'll sit on my privilege then.

Nothing will change unless it gets to the point where Rishi is unable to heat his new outdoor swimming pool complex.

The Lib Dems can be good local councillors as individuals, but are collectively bound to get rid of male and female separate changing rooms in swimming pools and in other buildings, including for young people.

And Layla Moran ‘sees souls’. None of them seem troubled by the interim Cass report. Even Wera Hobhouse has swallowed the gender woo wholesale and spouts shit in agreement with the likes of Crispin Blunt, Caroline Nokes and Lisa Nandy.

A Party captured by such a problematic ideology worries me.

And locally, yes I do want to retain female only changing rooms and showers in council run facilities, thanks.

I honestly wish there was a better Opposition to the Tories. I’m angry there isn’t tbh.

I don't have enough loyalty left towards Labour to even vote for them in the Locals. I vaguely got to know my Labour councillor and he is useless.

What do you think Labour/lib dem/whoever would do to change the situation?

I feel disproportionately annoyed whenever Ms Pansexual Layla Moran appears on my screen. How utterly juvenile for a mum of teenagers to publicly proclaim herself to be something fictional like that.

This!

I don’t want to vote Conservative but I have no idea what Labour/Lib Dems policies are. I would like them to come out and tell us what changes they would make if elected but instead all they want to do is bitch about Partygate. Just wish Starmer etc would give us something to vote for!

I have so many issues with your posts I don't know where to start...... let's pluck some stuff out. Windfall tax, great in principle, but the Oil and Gas companies are leading investors in renewable energy, they already pay super tax on extraction, and are already moving away from fossil fuels. The biggest investors in Oil and Gas are pension companies not individuals, Tory or otherwise. It is in all out interests to keep private and civil service pensions affordable

Monies they never expected to get and when this has happened in the past, even Thatcher had a windfall tax... needs must.
Energy companies account for less than 4% of the monies invested in UK pensions, so that argument is null and void.

Stop trotting out the Covid deaths. We are pretty much in line with everyone else, and no-one did anything much different. It has yet to be proven that anyone in the Tory party had any benefit from any Covid contract. If they did, it will have come out by now surely?? Yes, lots of money spiffed away, but then again, so did everyone else

who is "everyone else" ? the billions wasted on CV recovery funds and then written off is scandalous, then there is billions in PPE destroyed....
Our economy hit the hardest, recovering the slowest according to the latest data.

Energy price increases, cost of living, Covid, these are all global issues. Past governments were complacent, current governments are have slightly different solutions, but at the end of the day, no-one, no-one, has a perfect solution for any of it. Not the Tories, not Labour, not the EU, not any European country, not the US

Yet energy prices rises in much of europe far lower than here.... we get £150 of CT, 5p cut in fuel duty, much of it not even passed on and a very odd £200 loan.
Energy cap is £1800 is, set to go to £3300.

BUT i agree, there is no perfect solution, doesn't mean we have to accept the very worst ones though.

Obviously it is. The French government has protected its population from these extreme rises and the Labour Party has a plan to do the same.

So, if you had a car that kept breaking down, you'd stick with it? or would try a different make?

All parties promise far too much and deliver far too little but the Tories have been in now for 12 years, yet everything they said they said would get better, has got worse.

Name one thing that has improved in this country since 2010?

This. I can't vote for a party that denies my existence as a female and has no care for my safeguarding, or that of my daughters.

Years ago if a government was inept and corrupt the electorate would simply vote it out. Simple. Now it’s excuse after excuse. But but Labour….. No credible opposition blah blah blah. How can anyone be as corrupt as Johnson and his hopeless cabal. Maybe take a look at Labour’s policies when they publish their next manifesto ?

Just excuse after excuse.
And the notion that the tories respect women what a joke. That left leaning women could ever vote for them on one issue just shows what a load of hypocrites they are. Obviously not affected by cuts to public services, schools, benefits. But no let’s get indignant about a 0.00001 % transwomen prison population when biological female prisoners are already shafted by an abysmal legal, prison and probation system, cut to the fucking bone .

@Tagliatellme so you are saying that tories have treated women well, better than new labour ever did ?

They know at least that women exist. That’s something.

I said that Labour deny the existence of women as a sex. I didn't say anything else.

If Labour said there was no such thing as gay, would you expect a gay person to vote for them?