Ukraine Invasion: Part 20

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Thanks to everyone for taking part in the thread.

@katem98 cheers! Just think it could be worse you could be Putin, stuck in a bunker, paranoid and hated by millions. At least we know love and compassion ☺️

www.gov.uk/government/publications/homes-for-ukraine-sponsorship-scheme-numbers-of-visa-applications?fbclid=IwAR3lWDN3eWNPO9bhVMd8u7dZUoY-ed84OCjRkeqFJezPYXz5_1IlZvPQvg8
Latest data on how many visas issued (including local authority breakdown)

Top 20 places for visas:

1. Kent 752
2. Surrey 710
3. Hampshire 684
4. Essex 453
5. Hertfordshire 425
6. Oxfordshire 424
7. West Sussex 422
8. Cambridgeshire 373
9. East Sussex 359
10. Devon 357
11. Buckinghamshire 316
12. Norfolk 276
13. Somerset 257
14. Gloucestershire 252
15. Lincolnshire 251
16. Suffolk 246
17. Warwickshire 232
18. Nottinghamshire 224
19. Lancashire 222
20. Barnet 221

And heres the bottom 20 areas for comparison (and for any demographic / political nerds cos there is a fairly obvious pattern here):
133) Knowsley 18
134=) Rutland 17
134=) Dudley 17
136=) Halton 16
136=) Darlington 16
138=) Rochdale 15
138=) Luton 15
140=) Sandwell 14
140=) North East Lincolnshire 14
140=) Gateshead 14
140=) Blackburn with Darwen 14
144) Redcar and Cleveland 13
145=) South Tyneside 11
145=) Barnsley 11
147) Middlesbrough 10
148=) Walsall 9
148=) Hartlepool 9
150) Slough 8
151=) Isles of Scilly

Samuel Ramani @SamRamani2
BREAKING: India reportedly cancels plans to buy 48 Mi-17 V5 helicopters from Russia

This plan is being linked to India's push to transition towards domestic-made military equipment and is not framed as a rejection of Russia. But the timing of this move, if confirmed, is striking given U.S. pressure over India's Russia ties.

www.indiatoday.in/india/story/make-in-india-iaf-mi-17-choppers-russia-1938341-2022-04-16

The weather may be a give away. Past weather reports indicate partly cloudy during the day on 15/04 and 16/04 in that location and this looks to have been filmed around midday, give or take two hours

Heh. Just been looking in depth. It looks like 10 - 10:30 am from the shadows on the grounds. Yes, the trees look right. If you look carefully there are hints of cloud in the sky which look wispy and high but tend to disprove the idea of an entirely cloudless sky, but I'm not paying for access to the complete past weather in the last 2 days.

Would be interested to work out the bigwig's identity who was standing to the West side at first at 90 degrees to the line of sailors but needs tech skills to halt the video and extract his face that I don't have.

It might filmed to the near direct West of the Monument to the Sunken Ships in Sevastopol.

Whoever filmed it was clearly given permission to. It's not a secret clip. The asiatic looking officer's emotion was homed in on. Presumably this was filmed for some propaganda purpose (?) though in a way it seems a bit informal.

Something still doesn't seem right, but I can't put my finger on it.

[quote RedToothBrush]Samuel Ramani @SamRamani2
BREAKING: India reportedly cancels plans to buy 48 Mi-17 V5 helicopters from Russia

This plan is being linked to India's push to transition towards domestic-made military equipment and is not framed as a rejection of Russia. But the timing of this move, if confirmed, is striking given U.S. pressure over India's Russia ties.

www.indiatoday.in/india/story/make-in-india-iaf-mi-17-choppers-russia-1938341-2022-04-16[/quote]
Nothing to do with the way that Russian Military stuff doesn't actually seem all that good then?

Putin could launch nuclear weapons should he so wish, if they are available and in working condition, which given recent events, I wouldn't bet my life on, never mind Mr antler bath's.

Something still doesn't seem right, but I can't put my finger on it.

The lack of any trauma on the faces. Given the ship they were allegedly on sank a couple of days ago I a war zone.

@ljsbear
Re the video of the rescued sailors and the weather you were noting. Adding to what you said, it also appears, and sounds, a windy day. Perhaps that is normal on any day there though.

So we go from 'bomb the fuck out of Kyvi' on Russian State TV to this...

NEXTA @nexta_tv
On Solovyov's program, they started talking about the withdrawal of troops from #Ukraine, because "the army has fulfilled its task".
twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1515412789698912266

Subtitles read:
"Let the Ukrainians do the denazification for themselves, we can't do it for them. Do we need to get into another Afghanistan but worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their handling of weapons. We don't need that. Enough already. The army has already completed its task. Let diplomats or some other structures solve these problems. The army can't be the decision making organ for all these things."

Jimmy @JimmySecUK
It's very revealing that pro-Kremlin figures are already explicitly advocating a withdrawal and what really stands out here is the comment - "do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse?".

Jane Lytvynenko @JaneLytv
Idk, this is one of about a dozen completely contradictory things they said just today. Not sure about using it as a barometer.

Jimmy @JimmySecUK
Definitely not definitive, for sure. The Afghan reference is pretty telling though, that conflict weighs very very heavy on Russians of a certain age.

Jane Lytvynenko @JaneLytv
That's true. They're probably worried about May 9. But what a "fulfilled task" means is a whole other question entirely.

They know its a shit show. They aren't hiding that its a shit show. They are openly saying its a shit show.

I know, I saw this but...there's so much bullshit and lies it's impossible to know how to read this

And while we're getting into the 90s and before we lose each other - next thread:

Ukraine Invasion: Part 21 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4531511-ukraine-invasion-part-21

[quote ScrollingLeaves]@ljsbear
Re the video of the rescued sailors and the weather you were noting. Adding to what you said, it also appears, and sounds, a windy day. Perhaps that is normal on any day there though.[/quote]
Harbour city, yes, bound to be wind

The army has already completed its task. Let diplomats or some other structures solve these problems. The army can't be the decision making organ for all these things."

That is very clever whoever thought it up.

@RedToothBrush

So we go from 'bomb the fuck out of Kyvi' on Russian State TV to this...

NEXTA @nexta_tv
On Solovyov's program, they started talking about the withdrawal of troops from #Ukraine, because "the army has fulfilled its task".
twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1515412789698912266

Subtitles read:
"Let the Ukrainians do the denazification for themselves, we can't do it for them. Do we need to get into another Afghanistan but worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their handling of weapons. We don't need that. Enough already. The army has already completed its task. Let diplomats or some other structures solve these problems. The army can't be the decision making organ for all these things."

I saw that one of the comments was ‘Someone is going to jail tonight’
Another was that either this is against the line or Putin is preparing his next move.

As in, against the party line? Yeah, I think this is too good to be true

Here's some footage from Sevastopol from yesterday. Any tree experts about?

www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-crowd-mourns-black-sea-flagship-after-sinking-2022-04-15/

Looks genuine to me @BringBackCoffeeCreams

Sevastopol in mid-April.

It's still wear a coat weather. Evergreens are, well, evergreen. Deciduous trees are not in leaf but the buds are coming along well.

This webcam by the ships monument seems to be live, though the clock is out by 5 minutes.

www.geocam.ru/en/online/sevastopol-symbol/

Nakhimov square one keeps panning around and says it is live. 25 second advertisement to endure first.

sevstar.net/oko/#stream=cam_nahimova2

On the front page of the telegraph😂

@VeneziaGiulia45 · 25/04/2022 15:15
On the front page of the telegraph😂

We are on Ukraine Invadion 22 now. Could you move your post there?

@mnhq thread posts aren't limited to 1k anymore 😬