Prince Andrew stripped...

[Sarahlou63]

Of all royal patronages and military titles.

Guess mummy has finally had enough.

Good on her Maj. It must be incredibly hard to think your own Son could do these things.

He's a scumbag and deserves everything he is getting and more.

We have no room in the RF (or tax payers money) for people like him.

@Aldinho57

That's such a shame, can we not do the same to Harry,

Oh get a grip @Aldinho57. Says a lot about you that you put Prince Harry in the same category as someone accused of sex crimes. You sound obsessed!

That's such a shame, can we not do the same to Harry, don’t be so fucking pathetic.

Why must every thread include at least one poster who feels the need to slag off harry. Get a fucking life.

@Aldinho57 - Well, I agree with you!!

It's how we produced the "officer class" - men with enough arrogance and insensitivity (both to violence and to the rights of other people) to colonise a quarter of the globe, from a small wet island off Europe

And to have so little regard for the "lower orders" to think nothing of sending them to near-certain death in futile battles.

I actually feel sorry for the queen.

It’s very easy for us to sit here and criticise her for doing/not doing in terms of Andrew, because she’s a public figure.

But at the end of the day he is her son. And while we can easily hypothetically say “If that was my son I would….” In truth there are likely a lot more parents who would support their children than abandon them.

The people who say ‘can’t we do this to Harry’ have apparently not picked up a newspaper / watched TV in the past few years.

This IS what they did to Harry - removing military titles and patronages. Andrew is now in the exact same position title wise that Harry (and Meghan) have been in since they left.

He is still HRH Andrew, the Duke of York, he just no longer uses the HRH in any official capacity. This is EXACTLY THE SAME as the rules that apply to Harry and Meghan.

It’s why they didn’t have a leg to stand on. The official position is that Harry’s military roles and patronages were stripped when he stopped working for the RF. The fact Andrew kept his while also not working for the RF made it look like they thought H & M’s behaviour was far more serious than Andrew’s. Seeing child rape as less serious than at worst buggering off to make bank overseas - not a good look.

Also, I was on a racism training course shortly after they left. Going through the racist comments in the papers (as multiple examples of micro aggressions) was eye opening.

Kate and William’s Flybe stunt didn’t cover the Cambridges in glory either. I’m not sure I’d want to keep working to support a sibling who cheerfully publicly stabbed me in the back.

@nancy75

It’s interesting that people view the Queen as never having put a foot wrong - that certainly wasn’t the view of her when Diana died. She was often seen as sour faced but now she’s become a cute old lady nobody can say a word against her

Yes she was roundly criticised at the time.

And it was the first time she put family ahead of duty, and stayed with the young Princes in private for the first few hideous days. And I think, with the passage of time, there has come to be greater understanding of what she did then.

Back to the Duke of York - this is couched in the language of courtly protocol, but it's a sacking.

Harry relinquished the use of HRH and his military and royal appointments were ended when he chose to stop being a working royal and to end his participation in royal duties.

For Andrew, it's a sacking, and a statement that he's on his own as far as the rest of the legal action is concerned

And all done just before the start of the Jubilee year

@ChargingBuck

About time too. At least HRH has taken swift action. Wish the cabinet would do the same.

HRH has been actively supporting her son in trying to find ways of evading court, has stubbornly held on to his 'right' to his titles & honours, & has stated that she believes him innocent.

Her action has been anything but swift.
The justice system is clearly for the plebs, not her favourite son.

Are you seriously trolling me on two threads simultaneously. Just write your own opinions, it's ok. We don't have to agree

@AlternativePerspective how many parents would wait before their son was found guilty before dropping their support of them

I dont know about the US courts but in the UK of be lost and she had his costs, she could also be held liable for costs of opposing party..Im not sure if they'd also be able to go after her for damages but I'd not be entirely surprised

I wonder how his daughters feel about all this.

@SiobhanSharpe

His dear old mum funds him to the tune of £250,000 a year. Plus he has a Navy pension of 20k. That's all he has. Apparently.

I wonder if he'll get state retirement pension as well when he reaches state retirement age? That'd give him another £10k or so.

I could live comfortably on those 2 pensions, especially if I could live in one of the family's spare houses for nowt.

@Talia99

The people who say ‘can’t we do this to Harry’ have apparently not picked up a newspaper / watched TV in the past few years.

This IS what they did to Harry - removing military titles and patronages. Andrew is now in the exact same position title wise that Harry (and Meghan) have been in since they left.

He is still HRH Andrew, the Duke of York, he just no longer uses the HRH in any official capacity. This is EXACTLY THE SAME as the rules that apply to Harry and Meghan.

It’s why they didn’t have a leg to stand on. The official position is that Harry’s military roles and patronages were stripped when he stopped working for the RF. The fact Andrew kept his while also not working for the RF made it look like they thought H & M’s behaviour was far more serious than Andrew’s. Seeing child rape as less serious than at worst buggering off to make bank overseas - not a good look.

Also, I was on a racism training course shortly after they left. Going through the racist comments in the papers (as multiple examples of micro aggressions) was eye opening.

Kate and William’s Flybe stunt didn’t cover the Cambridges in glory either. I’m not sure I’d want to keep working to support a sibling who cheerfully publicly stabbed me in the back.

Quite. Thickos are going to thick, though, aren't they. And so the Do It To Prince Harry and Meghan Too twits will continue.

@Aldinho57

That's such a shame, can we not do the same to Harry,

🥱

He's always been a bit of an arse without a true purpose. Very disappointing for the Queen but common sense has prevailed.

I wonder why 'it's such a shame' that the Queen has done this?

I'll ignore the Harry bit as it's too pathetic to answer

@AlternativePerspective

I wonder how his daughters feel about all this.

Outraged at the injustice of it, I expect.

Didn't one of them help him prepare for the disastrous Maitlis interview? She wouldn't have done that unless she believed him to be innocent, surely?

Took her long enough !
She had to be publicly shamed by an open letter from the military that came out a few hours ago - after much protestation from them for the last few weeks.

Swift as she was with Harry and Meghan , who did infact offer to work in commonwealth Canada and were refused - it took her years to deal with Andrew.

He has lost HRH and so will have fall back on His Grace 🤷🏼‍♂️

What WERE you thinking, OP?? 😵‍💫😵😵‍💫😵

How’s about Ponce Andrew? Or Nonce Andrew? Fits better.

Don't engage with the Harry commenter! They are trying to get this thread deleted because a bunfight about M&H always ends up in deletion on MN.

This is a monumental moment of disgrace for PA (or A) and it deserves all the publicity it can get, and not another "not in the spirit of MN" deletion. Including the fact that a thread is finally in the main section due to being headline news rather than shoved over to Royal Family.

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

nancy “The Duke of York has been stripped of all military titles and patronages and will no longer use his HRH title, Buckingham Palace has said.”

Moot point if he has lost HRH or has agreed not to use it.

It amounts to the same thing, surely?

The HRH is just a 'style'. It comes with no tangible privileges. If he has 'agreed' not to use it, then to all extents and purposes he has lost it.

And given that he's such an entitled arrogant brat, no longer having people call him HRH and being a mere 'private citizen' is going to sting. Badly.

Wow, that's a very strong letter - including the piece about the dishonourable discharge.