Prince Andrew stripped...

[Sarahlou63]

Of all royal patronages and military titles.

Guess mummy has finally had enough.

It's not surprising that the men of this family would turn out like Andrew though, is it? It's pretty much a foolproof recipe:

1. taught from early infancy that they belong to the very elite, are better and more important than everyone else, and will never be expected to clean up their own messes because there are minions to do that

2. sent to traditional English public schools, where they are systematically divorced from their own emotions by institutionalised bullying and macho culture, while simpultaneously being told that if they are good at History, for example, then they are already a "great historian", because they are the elite and everything they do is amplified

3. made to conduct themselves as spouses, parents and children as though the only things that matter are power, appearances and the maintenance of the family image

It's how we produced the "officer class" - men with enough arrogance and insensitivity (both to violence and to the rights of other people) to colonise a quarter of the globe, from a small wet island off Europe.

It's how we produced Boris Johnson, David Cameron and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Andrew is not an anomaly. His behaviour is a feature, not a bug.

@something2say

Who will pay his legal fees?

The sale of some chalet in Switzerland if I’ve read correctly.

@sadpapercourtesan

It's not surprising that the men of this family would turn out like Andrew though, is it? It's pretty much a foolproof recipe:

1. taught from early infancy that they belong to the very elite, are better and more important than everyone else, and will never be expected to clean up their own messes because there are minions to do that

2. sent to traditional English public schools, where they are systematically divorced from their own emotions by institutionalised bullying and macho culture, while simpultaneously being told that if they are good at History, for example, then they are already a "great historian", because they are the elite and everything they do is amplified

3. made to conduct themselves as spouses, parents and children as though the only things that matter are power, appearances and the maintenance of the family image

It's how we produced the "officer class" - men with enough arrogance and insensitivity (both to violence and to the rights of other people) to colonise a quarter of the globe, from a small wet island off Europe.

It's how we produced Boris Johnson, David Cameron and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Andrew is not an anomaly. His behaviour is a feature, not a bug.

^ This. In spades.

@x2boys

What does that actually mean in reality?

Fuck all.

@FlibbertyGiblets

Thank you sliding. Great explanation, much appreciated.

@AlecTrevelyan006

In ye olden tymes he’d have been given a pistol, or a sword, and told to find some woods and go off to do the decent thing.

Short of locking him away in the Tower, Stripping him of his Royal patronage is probably about as humiliating as it gets in the modern day.

He deserves no sympathy from anyone.

In ye olden times, a prince taking advantage (or alleged to have taken advantage) of a 17 yo commoner against her will would not have been newsworthy.

I'm imagining him properly losing his shit about this. The mental image is making me smile.

Thought he was so fucking untouchable, the prick.

It’s interesting that people view the Queen as never having put a foot wrong - that certainly wasn’t the view of her when Diana died.
She was often seen as sour faced but now she’s become a cute old lady nobody can say a word against her

Does this mean he doesn’t need protection officers now?

@FlibbertyGiblets

The BBC website says handed back not stripped, indicating he chose to rather than had them taken? Idk the importance of the phrasing?

It's ambiguous, isn't it? He may have handed them back of his own accord, or he could have handed them back because he was told they'd be removed from him if he didn't.

I think he agreed to give them up because he knew he'd lose them anyway, personally. He's a lying, abusive sleaze, whatever.

@sadpapercourtesan

Well said

His dear old mum funds him to the tune of £250,000 a year. Plus he has a Navy pension of 20k.
That's all he has. Apparently.

Does this mean he doesn’t need protection officers now?

Interesting one. I hope that's addressed. They cost us £300,000 p.a.
3 PPOs round the clock.
But maybe that bill's been reduced given he can't go anywhere, certainly not abroad.

I suspect he's partly bewildered and partly outraged that a 'commoner' has dared to do this to him and how very dare they ?

Yes, I imagine him being completely baffled that it has got this far, that it didn't all just die down after his brilliant Emily Maitliss interview and that some woman has this sort of power over him.

I feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie - they seem like fairly normal women, what must they be feeling about all this?

sent to traditional English public schools

Gordonstoun isn't English - it's north of Inverness! And was chosen because it wasn't a traditional school

I think Fergie could do with a bit of help. I think she is trauma bonded to him. He's treated her very badly over the years.

@the80sweregreat

I don't blame Harry and Meghan for bailing on this crowd ! He hasn't done anything as bad as these allegations are. Just decided to live a different life. Leave them out if it.

I know it’s amazing the lengths people will go to in their bizarre hatred of this couple.

Oh this pedophile is being pointed out? But what about the man who married an American woman and published a holiday card where he had NO SHOES ON!!!! Equally disgusting crime!

Very well said sadpapercourtesan

@Sprucewillis

About time too. At least HRH has taken swift action. Wish the cabinet would do the same.

HRH has been actively supporting her son in trying to find ways of evading court, has stubbornly held on to his 'right' to his titles & honours, & has stated that she believes him innocent.

Her action has been anything but swift.
The justice system is clearly for the plebs, not her favourite son.

@SiobhanSharpe

His dear old mum funds him to the tune of £250,000 a year. Plus he has a Navy pension of 20k. That's all he has. Apparently.

Is that it? How on earth will he cope ?? ( I am being sarcastic here )

Good - she's not paying for his lawyers either apparently.

I do feel for an elderly women having to deal with this. He's a disgrace. HRH gone and having to deal with this as a private citizen.

at the turn of events.

But to be honest I don’t think it’s exactly a fitting punishment. He raped a trafficked teenager and now he… won’t be called HRH. This is not really going to affect his lovely lifestyle at all, he’s hardly being banished to live in a tiny flat with no running water or electricity.

HRH = Hopeless Relegated Halfwit.

I think Fergie could do with a bit of help. I think she is trauma bonded to him

I think she's bonded to him alright. But bonded by £££££. Who wouldn't want to live in a 80 acre, 30 roomed Royal property whilst paying tiddly squat for it?
Without him, she'd be bankrupt in my opinion.