Fucking dogs!

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I am so fucking done with dogs

I am sick of being jumped all over by dogs when I'm out running. I always slow to a walk when a dog approaches, I stand still if they seem aggressive. I have lost count of how many dogs that have jumped up on me and have made me muddy, left scratches from their nails on my arms and thighs
or ripped/pulled my clothing. I'm actually very lucky never to have been bitten.
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I am so fucking fed up of avoiding piles of dog shit - on some of the routes I run or walk I can count up to a dozen piles just left on the path.

I am so fucking fed up of my neighbour's dogs barking. I can't complain as they are the kind of people who will make my life hell but on the regular occasions they are out they bark CONSTANTLY. Sometimes all night long.

I am fed up of having to pass a neighbour's house where they let their dog shit in the front garden and don't clear out for days and days. I walk past daily and it stinks to high heaven.

I am fucking fed up of dogs in cafes, pubs and restaurants. I, like many people are allergic and it leaves me sneezing for hours and hours. One pub we were in you literally had to clamber over 6 dogs to get to the bar.

Now today on here there are loads of people saying they think it's ok to put their dog shit in someone else's bin.

This is even without the terrible dog attacks that happen.

I know this will rile entitled dog owners but seriously has anyone else just fucking had enough?

(Ps my current username came from a thread where a poster's dinner of cottage pie had been given to the dog where everyone piled on to say dogs can't eat onions. I don't have a dog 🤣)

@FreshFreesias you are luckier than this man

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/bbc-dj-mike-sweeney-bitten-21449491?fbclid=IwAR0PGa4Hw5sRJtnfRINFouCC-BhqTyTUbfOZoIZOKV4ETOI47dfdUjbDzlM

Bitten by a dog in a pub and was blamed by owner for walking past it.

I am lucky to not been bitten but have been jumped up on many times. Never an apology either..My DH says I should never expect an apology.

@RicherThanYew

Dog poop is fucking infuriating, I will give you that much. Dogs shouldn't be jumping on people either (unless that person is me, I will take all the dog love I can get), it really is the owners fault though.

The whole furbabies thing is cute, just can't get worked up about it. It does make me smile when people on here find it rage inducing.

It's vomit and pity inducing, not rage inducing.

Not all dogs

[quote onlychildhamster]@AllThingsServeTheBeam just curious, in the 1970s,1980s and 1990s, did dogs go to restaurants and pubs and cafes and hotels in the UK? I wasn't living here in the UK at that time. If they didn't, what has changed about dogs that they were perfectly happy not going to these places but now it is their right to go to these places.

If they did, well fair enough..[/quote]
No idea. I was only born in 1990. I know dogs in the 80s roamed the streets though according to my mum. I can remember taking our staffie to the pub when we were on holiday in the 90s though.

if they didn't, what has changed about dogs that they were perfectly happy not going to these places but now it is their right to go to these places

In the early 90s a group of dogs got together and demonstrated outside various pubs and cafes in Devon. They demanded entrance rights to restaurants and pointed out that they were called Man's Best Friend for a reason. The government eventually caved under the pressure, and in 2001 cafes and pubs started admitting dogs in large numbers.

@onlychildhamster just waiting for @kkikomam to say it was the man’s fault and the dog had the perfect right to bite him. 😂🙄

@@AllThingsServeTheBeam I was born in 1992 but I did travel to Paris as a child and I don't remember dogs being taken to cafes. Like the only person that I heard of taking her dog everywhere was Paris Hilton and that's why she put her dog in a tote bag right (+ was Paris Hilton and did lots more loony things). Also fictional characters like Elle Woods who took her chihuahua everywhere

[quote Trixiefirecracker]**@onlychildhamster* just waiting for @kkikomam* to say it was the man’s fault and the dog had the perfect right to bite him. 😂🙄[/quote]
Well, you'll be waiting a long time for me to say that, but do feel free to settle down.

@onlychildhamster

@*@AllThingsServeTheBeam* I was born in 1992 but I did travel to Paris as a child and I don't remember dogs being taken to cafes. Like the only person that I heard of taking her dog everywhere was Paris Hilton and that's why she put her dog in a tote bag right (+ was Paris Hilton and did lots more loony things). Also fictional characters like Elle Woods who took her chihuahua everywhere

Dog shit everywhere in Paris in the 80s and 90s and dogs definitely in seating areas outside cafes at least.

@Kikkomam reminds me of that movie legally blonde 2 where Elle Woods changed the law regarding animal testing so that she could invite her dog's mum (who was being used for scientific research) to her wedding. Ok if you are an Elle Woods like character with a chihuahua in a LV tote bag, I would love to see you and your dog in a pub. Would be quite amusing. Could you and your dog wear matching Christmas jumpers?

@Kikkomam but does sound like something you’d say. 😂

[quote onlychildhamster]@Kikkomam reminds me of that movie legally blonde 2 where Elle Woods changed the law regarding animal testing so that she could invite her dog's mum (who was being used for scientific research) to her wedding. Ok if you are an Elle Woods like character with a chihuahua in a LV tote bag, I would love to see you and your dog in a pub. Would be quite amusing. Could you and your dog wear matching Christmas jumpers?[/quote]
Sadly my dog and I are nowhere near as stylish as Elle and Buster.

@QuiteQuaint

Dogs aren’t the problem. Bad owners are.

Yep.

The venn diagram of owners who don’t put their dog on a lead, coo ‘don’t worry they’re friendly’ and who don’t train their dogs is a circle.

I love dogs but some drip of a woman just watched as they’re huge dog bounded towards me and jumped ruining my clothes with their muddy pass and then just simpered a ‘oh sorry’ couldn’t even look me in the eye. 🙄🙄🙄

@Kikkomam

Given the amount of times my kids have been chased by dogs, held at bay by snarling, barking dogs and the fact my eldest was bitten after been chased by a dog, I suspect it happens more often than you realise. Those bites don't make the news but they still happen. I was bitten by a dog as a child too, and have two friends who were bitten as well

Your kids have been "held at bay" multiple times by snarling barking dogs?? OK then.

Yes, they have. Let me tell you about one of those times. I was in a wooded path behind our house. I was lifting my baby out of the pram to put him in the carrier when a dog ran up to us barking and snapping at us and doing that thing where dogs lower themselves then leap towards you barking and snarling. I didn't have my hand free as my baby was half in and half out of the carrier, my toddler was terrified and I had to tell him to hide behind me. The owner was down the path on her phone, ignoring this. I called to her to call off her dog, she glanced up and calls in that feeble voice lazy uninterested dog owners use but the dog,, unsurprisingly completely ignores her, and continues to bark and snap at us. Meanwhile the owner ambles along still on her phone. I call her again to retrieve her dog, she does the same with the same lack of result. So I call again and tell her that I will start kicking her dog is she does not move herself and get it under control. That got her moving, yelling as she does, ' Fuck you! Fuck You! Fuck you! Don't you dare touch my dog, Fuck You Fuck you'

This has happened multiple times where a dog corners my children whilst barking and snapping and the lazy owner does fuck all. My children have been chased multiple times, screaming and terrified by barking dogs. It is bloody awful. I live in a 'nice' middle class area. The entitlement of the dog owners who think their dogs can behave as intimidatingly as they like is unbelievable. Most of them don't even try to get their dogs under control but just amble along feebly calling 'Fido, fido' whilst being utterly ignored by 'Fido'.
So yes, I've completely lost my patience and if your only argument is to pretend this did not happen then you have no case do you?

You've been very unlucky.

@Kikkomam

You've been very unlucky.

I really haven't. And being as I have had these incidents in multiple locations, in two UK countries I have lived in, I think its not 'unlucky' but just that there are a lot of oblivious middle class dog owners who think their 'furbabies' are just so friendly and don't stop to think the three year old being barked at or chased is seeing things differently.

Given the number of people on this thread with bad experiences I think you need to realise that this is common, caused by a common attitude and behaviour by an awful lot of dog owners. Or you can just continue to pretend to yourself that all these people are 'unlucky' and there's nothing to see here.

@Kikkomam

if they didn't, what has changed about dogs that they were perfectly happy not going to these places but now it is their right to go to these places

In the early 90s a group of dogs got together and demonstrated outside various pubs and cafes in Devon. They demanded entrance rights to restaurants and pointed out that they were called Man's Best Friend for a reason. The government eventually caved under the pressure, and in 2001 cafes and pubs started admitting dogs in large numbers.

If you are on holiday and take your dog with you, you can't leave them in the accommodation when you go to the shops, or go out for a meal

why not? How long does it take you to have a meal? Most times you're there for two hours at most.

Same goes for shopping. Would you really be more than a couple of hours at a time, if you are on holiday?

@ColinTheKoala

If you are on holiday and take your dog with you, you can't leave them in the accommodation when you go to the shops, or go out for a meal

why not? How long does it take you to have a meal? Most times you're there for two hours at most.

Same goes for shopping. Would you really be more than a couple of hours at a time, if you are on holiday?

Some holiday let's don't let you and I go in a motorhome so we are out all day. There is no way I am leaving him in the van or awning all day when you're allowed to take him to pubs and cafes etc.

Given the number of people on this thread with bad experiences I think you need to realise that this is common, caused by a common attitude and behaviour by an awful lot of dog owners

Well, I could say the same. I've had dogs for 50 years and never once seen a family held at bay by a snarling snapping dog. So I think you need to realise that your experience is very rare. Badly behaved dogs jumping up are a PITA but not life threatening and quite different to the Cujo style situations you seem to constantly experience.

I don't think it's rare at all, and I don't think minimising people's experiences is fair - you wouldn't minimise the experience of people who got mugged/assaulted saying it's rare and they're unlucky. There are many dog bites and incidents recorded every year, and since lockdown dog ownership has gone up hugely, so it makes sense these incidents will happen more and more.

One of my friends got a lockdown puppy and was shocked to find out about them needing a cage/having to sleep most of the day/not being able to go for 2-hour walks while still a puppy. She got told off by a dog trainer for not doing her research, and said, "but who actually does research before buying a puppy?". She's a smart lovely person who has now managed to train her dog up with help from trainers, but was really clueless when buying him. So many people don't do research, aren't that bothered, think "it's OK, I can just give him away when I can't deal with him" and hence the number of badly-behaved dogs out there. Also the amount of people giving them human traits and treating them like children.

@Kikkomam

Given the number of people on this thread with bad experiences I think you need to realise that this is common, caused by a common attitude and behaviour by an awful lot of dog owners

Well, I could say the same. I've had dogs for 50 years and never once seen a family held at bay by a snarling snapping dog. So I think you need to realise that your experience is very rare. Badly behaved dogs jumping up are a PITA but not life threatening and quite different to the Cujo style situations you seem to constantly experience.

Wow. Firstly you need to exaggerate to undermine what I said ('constantly experience').

Secondly, its one thing to say you did have not experienced something. Its quite a leap to say that because you have not experienced something hardly anyone else has. And by the way, in the experiences I have had there was usually no-one else there to witness them, so I am not quite sure why you think you not having seen them is a killer argument. I have never seen anyone being mugged .I don't claim its rare or mock people who say they have been.

Thirdly, if you are a small child and a dog is as big or bigger than you are, a dog jumping at you, or running up to you, is not a PITA. It is fucking terrifying. Imagine yourself being charged by a rhino. Its a bit like that.

Your responses really are akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying ' LA LA LA, Can't hear you! Not happening! LA LA LA'

Not impressive.

No. I've heard what you are saying and I don't believe your children have been "held at bay by snarling dogs" multiple times and if it is true, then as I said, you've been unlucky. If a dog has run up to your children and sniffed at them or jumped up that is hardly being held at bay and although I can see it might be frightening, if the dog is not aggressive then you are over exaggerating.

It’s still shows bad ownership if you are letting your dog jump up at people. That’s not acceptable so please stop minimising it,