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Policeman kicks 15 year old girl in the stomach

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GreekTragedy · 01/10/2021 09:58

I couldn't see a thread about this so thought I'd start one.

I am completely shocked at this video.

This "officer" came out of nowhere and did a flying kick to a young girl!!

Now I can understand police getting a it violent in the heat of the moment but this? This is outright disgusting.

That officer should be charged.

What the fuck has happened to our police force??

www.aol.co.uk/news/cop-fly-kicks-15-old-123400054.html

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ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 16:44

Except she didn’t kick anyone’s ass and it seemed like she no intention to do so either. She was grappling with the Officers to get them off of her friend

This is a stupid, stupid thing to do though! If these girls had done as was asked and gone home, none of this would have happened.

ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 16:47

Is that a lack of size difference?

She's shorter than the male. If she had been holding a knife in the hand that is hidden, the female officer could be dead. He has about 2 seconds to risk assess the scene.

SpindleWhirl · 02/10/2021 16:47

Well it DID happen, @ILoveJamaica, and the police officer is being investigated.

WormYourHonour · 02/10/2021 16:48

@ILoveJamaica

Is that a lack of size difference?

She's shorter than the male. If she had been holding a knife in the hand that is hidden, the female officer could be dead. He has about 2 seconds to risk assess the scene.

And yet, he arrived at the same time as the woman...
LuaDipa · 02/10/2021 16:50

@ILoveJamaica

Except she didn’t kick anyone’s ass and it seemed like she no intention to do so either. She was grappling with the Officers to get them off of her friend

This is a stupid, stupid thing to do though! If these girls had done as was asked and gone home, none of this would have happened.

Well yes, but if the Police Officer involved wasn’t a violent sociopath who thinks kicking children is acceptable it wouldn’t have happened either.

An adult in a position of responsibility holds far more responsibility for preventing the escalation of a situation like this than a 15 year old child.

Kids do stupid things because they don’t see the consequences of their actions, and while I agree there should be a punishment, it shouldn’t involve an act of extreme aggression.

WormYourHonour · 02/10/2021 16:51

He has about 2 seconds to risk assess the scene.

Officer on ground flags van with siren at 48 seconds into the video.
Officer kicks girl at 59 seconds into the video.
11 seconds to assess...

GiddyNorthernBird · 02/10/2021 16:53

He didn’t want to assess the risk though, he just wanted to give a kicking.

ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 16:53

I'd be interested to hear what you would do, in order to get a 15 year old bully off your child? What if you knew they could have a knife in the hidden hand? Would you ask them nicely or kick them off?

Leibham · 02/10/2021 16:54

@GiddyNorthernBird

Exactly, and knew he had the power to do it, as have demonstrated the abusers apologists on this thread.

SequinsandStiIettos · 02/10/2021 16:54

He saw a girl attacking his female colleague who had gone in to help?

Leibham · 02/10/2021 16:55

@ILoveJamaica

Your reasoning doesn’t really warrant an intelligent response.

Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 16:55

@Fangdango

Nobody gets kicked in the stomach in this video.

Nobody is defending random kicking on this thread - just accepting that there may have been a need to act fast while a policewoman was under attack.

Nobody on this thread has justified the Met's dealings with WC and associated officers, and nobody here has a monopoly on grief and rage about Sarah Everard's killing.

Nobody deserves to be demonised because they draw different conclusions about the sequence of events in this video than others do.

People are being demonised for suggesting the police are reasonable. They’re not. It’s time for a change - and attitudes like yours stop that change.
Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 16:59

@ILoveJamaica

Except she didn’t kick anyone’s ass and it seemed like she no intention to do so either. She was grappling with the Officers to get them off of her friend

This is a stupid, stupid thing to do though! If these girls had done as was asked and gone home, none of this would have happened.

This is swerving a bit too close to ‘women should protect themselves from violent police officers’ - have we not seen enough of that this week?
Fangdango · 02/10/2021 16:59

@WormYourHonour

He has about 2 seconds to risk assess the scene.

Officer on ground flags van with siren at 48 seconds into the video.
Officer kicks girl at 59 seconds into the video.
11 seconds to assess...

11 seconds to stop , get out - I'd guess he comes around from driver's side, get to his colleagues, and risk assess an attack on them that starts with the girl running forward to the group on the ground, raising her right arm to the policewoman twice, within six seconds before he kicks her off.

Could you risk assess that from the kerb and decide the policewoman wasn't at risk? When the girl has run over to attack her?

ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 17:00

Your reasoning doesn’t really warrant an intelligent response

Well, you can't answer truthfully - you know you'd kick a dangerous teen off your child, you just can't really say so now.

Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 17:00

@ILoveJamaica

Except she didn’t kick anyone’s ass and it seemed like she no intention to do so either. She was grappling with the Officers to get them off of her friend

This is a stupid, stupid thing to do though! If these girls had done as was asked and gone home, none of this would have happened.

And, as we’ve already established, he didn’t ask her to go home before he kicked her.
WormYourHonour · 02/10/2021 17:00

@ILoveJamaica

I'd be interested to hear what you would do, in order to get a 15 year old bully off your child? What if you knew they could have a knife in the hidden hand? Would you ask them nicely or kick them off?
The 15 year old wasn't attacking a child. The child was holding on to an adults arm.

Why are you making false representation to make the kick justified?

SpindleWhirl · 02/10/2021 17:01

It's up to the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) and an investigation is ongoing.

"The IOPC confirmed that it received a referral from Norfolk Police on Tuesday morning."

They'll assess the evidence, against a background of the police officer's training and public duty.

Doesn't matter a fuck what anyone says on here.

Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 17:02

@ILoveJamaica

Your reasoning doesn’t really warrant an intelligent response

Well, you can't answer truthfully - you know you'd kick a dangerous teen off your child, you just can't really say so now.

I’m not allowed to kick dangerous teens off other dangerous teens at work. I’d be sacked for that.
ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 17:03

Perhaps imagine that the female officer is your daughter? She is being grappled by the girl, and we can't see if there is a weapon. You would want that person off your daughter as soon as humanly possible. You wouldn't care whether they were 15 or 18 - just get them off ASAP.

WormYourHonour · 02/10/2021 17:05

Could you risk assess that from the kerb and decide the policewoman wasn't at risk? When the girl has run over to attack her?

The female officer did, she assessed the risk and aided her colleague...

The male offocer had more time than the female officer.. but he came to a different conclusion and decided to kick a child instead of any other course of action.

If there was any evidence or suggestion the teen might have knife, why would the female officer ignore it?

ILoveJamaica · 02/10/2021 17:05

And, as we’ve already established, he didn’t ask her to go home before he kicked her

The first Officer (the one now on the ground) will have asked these girls to go home, many many times. By the time the van arrives, that ship has sailed!

Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 17:05

@ILoveJamaica

Perhaps imagine that the female officer is your daughter? She is being grappled by the girl, and we can't see if there is a weapon. You would want that person off your daughter as soon as humanly possible. You wouldn't care whether they were 15 or 18 - just get them off ASAP.
If the female officer was my daughter, I’d expect her to use her training to diffuse the situation. If my daughter was a police officer and thought kicking fifteen year olds was ok, I’d be absolutely sickened. If she then justified why we should continue to trust the police I’d tell her she was an idiot.
Pumperthepumper · 02/10/2021 17:06

@ILoveJamaica

And, as we’ve already established, he didn’t ask her to go home before he kicked her

The first Officer (the one now on the ground) will have asked these girls to go home, many many times. By the time the van arrives, that ship has sailed!

So he didn’t ask her to go home before he kicked her?
nannannanana · 02/10/2021 17:06

That kick is vile.

Unwarranted. She may have needed restraining but wtf that's not how it is done.

The police are trained in how to restrain, pretty sure that's not how the training goes.

Vile.

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