Prince Andrew sued by Virginia Roberts ll

[Blossomtoes]

Continued from previous thread

That's the root of his entitlement.
It also explains his attitude during the Emily Maitlis interview.

The lawyers letters comes from more than one source...

Palace sources confirmed to the Daily Beast that the letters had been sent out to media organizations, but insisted that similar letters are sent out whenever the royal family is on their annual summer vacation in Balmoral and are therefore “not remarkable,” but The Daily Beast noted that the queen has been on holiday at Balmoral since July 24, while the letters weren’t sent until Aug. 10

10th August is when PA arrived there

I don't think the Daily Beast is particularly dubious. It's no Info Wars!

PA is arrogant, a bit thick and entitled - this is what led us to this situation.

However the "benign" RF never reigned him in and instead are protecting him from CSA allegations with the connivance of our media. And we get to pay for it all as tax payers.

There is no excuse or justification. Why do we indulge a system where we are reliant on the integrity and good judgement of a family who have demonstrated that they have none even when we are discussing CSA. I just cannot get over this. It is disgusting.

I don’t suppose the RF reined him in because they probably had no idea what he was up to. Would any of us know if one of our relatives was doing something sleazy or immoral? I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t.

I’m obviously a bit more cynical than you @nottodaybatman because it doesn’t shock me particularly. It’s pretty much what I’d expect of the RF. I know I’ve mentioned it before but I’m really shocked by the US sequestering one of their citizens who took a life from justice.

@Blossomtoes someone posted on the other thread that his security team would have been vetting a lot of the people he interacted with. Even when he was doing his trade envoy role he was definitely involved in dodgy things with unsavoury characters. It was covered up and minimised. Epstein was being investigated for trafficking, sexual assault and child abuse etc in 2005.

I am not American so not sure what is normal wrt to what that government does and again I just do not think it is relevant. PA has slithered off the hook because the British press consistently distracts and ignores what he is doing. I appreciate you are raising interesting broader points but I think the victims deserve the focus and the 15 years of coddling needs to be looked at.

And again we are paying for this through our taxes. The RF are tolerated because they are "good for Brand Britain etc.". This is not just about a deluded mother covering for her sleazy man child son. This is about us and the world watching in vivid technicolor as the establishment continues to protect PA from the consequences of his repeated actions. It is embarrassing and disgusting and it has been happening for over a decade. If they have been covering for him, it's because they knew.

@Blossomtoes
I doubt very very much no one in the Palace, be it the Queen, family, courtiers, spokespersons and the like..didn't have a clue what he was doing. As a trade envoy or who he was mixing with.
His wiki page is a revelation, dodgy dealings, extravagence, back handers...it's too much if a stretch to imagine no one knew.

Gone are the days that this sort of thing can be covered up, the royal family are accountable to the people, quite rightly.

These threads have become a complete echo chamber. This - The RF are tolerated because they are "good for Brand Britain etc”. - simply isn’t true. The RF is greatly loved in this country, regardless of whether you share that love or think they should be despatched to the guillotine. They also wield a great deal of soft power in the world.

The world isn’t remotely interested in a bloated, privileged, late middle aged man and his dubious sexual proclivities. It’s concerned with a pandemic, hell being let loose in Afghanistan and the prospect of it becoming a training ground for terrorism again.

The real test will come when Maxwell goes on trial and if there’s any benefit to her in dropping Andrew right in it. I’m sure if there was a plea bargain to be had she wouldn’t hesitate. There are plenty of other men of the same ilk to be dropped with him. Personally I’m content to wait for that.

I think the world can multi task. There are threads covering all these topics and more.

I think some people are big fans of the RF and I think a lot more are quietly indifferent and some are greatly opposed.

However I would say imo whichever camp you find yourself in I think all would say that trafficking and CSA and a decades long cover up is something worth thinking about and discussing especially in relation to the RF soft power.

FWIW I was in camp indifference, 2021 has moved me into camp get rid of them. We don't agree on this and that's fine.
However I think most people draw the line at child abuse and those facilitating it.

Agreed that the Maxwell trial will be very illuminating but I stand by my points.

The point I was attempting to make is that if the world is watching in vivid technicolor, this will be a long way down the list of reasons for its interest.

Didn't reign him in, or didn't see too much wrong with it?

Didn’t know is my guess.

@Blossomtoes ok varying levels of people following along with PA etc I take your point there and agree. But the internet is forever

HMQ’s lawyers should not have sent that. Highlighting the issue.

Photographers often capture the Cambridge family landing at Aberdeen on their Loganair flight from Norwich - or Flybe (who one year specifically swapped their branded plane in to get the Cambridge’s from Norwich instead of Loganair branded planes after the Sussexes were criticised for private jet use).

No one managed to get pics of PA arriving at Balmoral so he either drove all the way (a man who cannot be bothered to drive one mile to use the back gates but would rather ram his own gates with his £60k Range Rover instead)…. Or took a helicopter to avoid paps.

I agree. And things will get very hot for him at some point. I’m looking forward to it immensely.

Of course the world is interested! It is incessant the interest, especially in the US. There isn't a day that goes by when something doesn't pop up about this.

But that doesn't take away from everything else going on in the world... the situation in Afghanistan is far far more tenuous, worrying and important. And Covid of course... I discuss these other subjects frequently away from these threads, as do others I'm sure.

Apparently PA didn't fly to Balmoral for fear of being snapped. Maybe he was driven who knows. But I think there is a pic of him in a Range Rover getting to Balmoral. And there's photos of the trail of cars off on their first grouse shoot. I imagine it was a drone that took it.

Well, the world doesn’t seem very interested to me but then I don’t trawl the Internet looking for coverage. 🤷‍♀️

Nor do I.

It pops up on feeds.

Not mine. I rely on you to provide it!

Only if you want to know Blossom !

This is an interesting article and yes Blossom it came up on my twitter feed
It's not from the mainstream press, but looks at the bigger picture of women in the RF, as opposed to Andrew and what's going on at the moment.

theconversation.com/prince-andrew-the-monarchy-has-a-long-history-of-dismissing-womens-suffering-165927

I don’t suppose the RF reined him in because they probably had no idea what he was up to. Would any of us know if one of our relatives was doing something sleazy or immoral?

They'd have had to be reading the papers with their eyes closed not to be aware of the tax payer funded junketing and jaunts tacked on to 'business meetings' that earned him the nickname 'Airmiles Andy'.

Do we know what happened to the ski chalet?

Reportedly paid off by mummy to avoid a court case.

Oh, the irony.

Randy Andy. That was his nickname back in the 80s

Yes... he was being sued £6.7M and now there is no debt.
So it would lead us to believe that debt has been paid off.

It is not sold yet as I understand it (happy to be corrected) Price tag £19.6m dropped from £23m

How in god's name did he afford this in the first place.

As with all things - the deeds and misdeeds are deliberately opaque or plain ignored. Instead our media drives reporting based on courtiers / royal sources who are curiously focussed on particularly narratives and become suddenly silent about all things PA except insofar as how sad / upsetting it must be for the Q and RF.

It's the media manipulation that is so brazen. I fully expect the RF to behave in a way to suit themselves i.e. covering for PA and lobbying for changes to laws to suit themselves (exempting themselves as recently as 2010 equality act covering race and sex).

What is significant is the way in which the british media has this odd dynamic with the RF. It makes the media look ridiculous and us corrupt and backward. The media should be keeping the monarchy honest instead this behaviour runs rampant and critics are gaslit.

I said in the previous thread but the media desire to protect the monarch at all costs has dragged public discourse backwards. The victim blaming and minimising of CSA; the dog whistle racism amplified in respectable newspapers and tv. For me this is unforgivable.