Would you report racism? Re: Savills employee

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Following on from the Savills tweets where there employee used a racial slur regarding football last night and then made another tweet about domestic violence.
Would you report it if you saw a family member / friend etc posted something racist publicly? I think i would - i believe we should be actively anti racist not just let it slide past. I would feel slightly guilty but not overly to be honest. I also don't agree with the 'cancel culture' that goes on but people need to be held accountable for their actions!

To report it to their employer is nasty, wrong and underhand.

No it's not- especially when they advertise where they work.
If I'm going to give an Estate Agent a chance to earn £1000s by selling my home, I do not want it to go to an openly racist scumbag.
Savills were right to ask the police to investigate and hopefully whether or not he was hacked can be established quickly.

@TedMullins

Yes, 100%, and I find it truly disturbing that there are people who think a racist losing their job is worse than a racist hurling racist abuse at people. It’s hate speech, not free speech. Some of it was inciting violence. Such attitudes embolden and encourage the kind of people who were filmed punching and kicking Italian fans and those who’d do the same to black people. Racists may not loudly espouse their views in the workplace but you can be sure they’re discriminating in other ways - throwing CVs in the bin because someone has a foreign name, for example. These people absolutely deserve to lose their jobs and friends. Black people have suffered long enough in a society that protects racists and it’s time for that to change.

Exactly this.

No I wouldn’t. I’d delete them and tell them why to their face if the subject was raised. But if they are that stupid to be so ignorant then they are probably stupid enough to have work colleagues on there too. But no, I wouldn’t be contacting their workplace- I think that’s ridiculous to be honest.

However, he denied knowing her and said it was mistaken identity.

In this case he should have said something like "yes 20 years ago when I was 19 and stupid and immature I did and said things I should have apologise for at the time. And I am truly sorry that I used racist language against you. Since then I have matured and blah blah"

Maybe his employers would want a word or maybe they'd see that he's not like that now. Denying it, knowing how people dig? Absolute idiocy

@igelkott2021

To digress slightly - I saw something on LinkedIn yesterday and wondered what MNers' views on it are. A guy had posted something about the football racism and how it was terrible and he stood with the footballers etc (can't remember the exact wording) and a woman had screenshot his post and said he was a hypocrite because 20 years ago when they were at uni together he called her the p word - twice.

I am a bit uncomfortable about doing something like this - people can change their views - we sort of hope that we can reeducate people - and now he may lose his job for something that happened 20 years ago when he was about 19. I thought capital punishment should happen for murderers when I was a teenager, I grew out of that idea. Not quite the same, but people can and do change their views.

However, he denied knowing her and said it was mistaken identity. People instantly noticed they had been at the same university at the same time. Now universities are big places, and his name isn't that uncommon and there could have been two of them there at the same time - but that doesn't play well with me either. If it was him, he should have accepted it and apologised.

I think that's a bit different because times have changed so much in the interim. Use of that word was more widespread and accepted then. So he could genuinely have changed his views. Also possible he didn't remember her or saying it after all that time.

Yes. But I did find the performative sanctimony of many Twitter users rather tiresome; eg '@ savilles, I hope you find this as appalling and upsetting as me, what are you going to do about it?' Of course they will, in the first instance, be alarmed that one of their employees, having behaved repugnantly, has been associated with them; no doubt it will fly fully in the face of their values and codes of conduct; and if proven, dismissal will be likely. You can raise these issues without prancing about the internet making a smug show of yourself.

You call it "performative sanctimony" (eye roll)

I (and many others) call it "sick to death of racist twats"

Anybody using the phrase 'performative sanctimony' is almost certainly exemplifying it.

@Annoyedandirritated

I actually know that guy that posted that who works for Savills. I’m so shocked, and other people that know him think he may have been hacked. It’s despicable either way. What was the tweet about DV?

It doesn't appear to be hacking as he presented himself at a police station today and has been arrested on suspicion of a malicious communication.

They walk amongst us and unless you are on the receiving end of or see their abuse you would never realise...

metro.co.uk/2021/07/14/euro-2020-man-37-arrested-in-manchester-over-social-media-posts-14928153/

They walk amongst us

They absolutely do.

In my opinion, I think the vast majority of us know people who'll whisper racist comments in specific circles.
We probably all know even more who'll absolutely claim to utterly devoid of racism, but they won't move into an area with a high percentage of ethnic minorities, or will make a 'nice comment' about well behaved the Pakistani children are... etc

And if we are ultra honest - are we absolutely sure this has never been us?

Brefugee, you mean this surely , the most over-used, witless emoji on this site. Enjoy your sanctimonious prancing, it's even in your username. Everyone needs a hobby.

I would report to the police not the persons employers. You’d be surprised how many people would let it slide and I wouldn’t assume reporting directly to their employer would have any consequences.

I don’t use SM and only have FB because the school use it for most of their communication. But if I saw a racist FB post I would report to Facebook, screenshot and report to 101 via the online form.

Brefugee, you mean this surely hmm, the most over-used, witless emoji on this site
no @midsomermurderess i meant not to use the emoji. I don't see how my user name is sanctimonious. Did you vote for Brexit? you cost me a lot of money and effort, if so, thanks for nothing.