Would you report racism? Re: Savills employee

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Following on from the Savills tweets where there employee used a racial slur regarding football last night and then made another tweet about domestic violence.
Would you report it if you saw a family member / friend etc posted something racist publicly? I think i would - i believe we should be actively anti racist not just let it slide past. I would feel slightly guilty but not overly to be honest. I also don't agree with the 'cancel culture' that goes on but people need to be held accountable for their actions!

@Xansaf

If it’s on Facebook or something then I’d report it to the relevant platform.

To report it to their employer is nasty, wrong and underhand. They may have views you don’t share, they may not even be very nice views but they don’t deserve to lose their livelihood over them.

Nasty, wrong and underhand... are all words I would use to describe the person posting racial abuse, not the one reporting them. He should have thought about his livelihood before being abusive.

Would you feel the same if this was sexual assault??

Racism is a hate crime, it's not a matter of not sharing the same same views with someone 🙄 Sick of people making excuses for perpetrators like this.

Mind you, this guy was also sharing posts making fun of the domestic abuse women would receive from their angry partners because England lost.

Racism is a hate crime

Is it always?
If we positively discriminate, this isn't borne of hate, but it's racism still.

Of course, in the context of nasty social media posts, it's another matter, but I am not sure all forms of racism are matters of hate.

yep, report them all day as far as I'm concerned, and if I heard their employer hadn't taken action then I would be boycotting that company.

When I was 19 I was working alone in a shop and some man came in and made some horrible racist comment towards me, his wife then said ‘you can’t say that or she’ll call you a racist.’ It’s stuck with me and at the time I didn’t report it because I was young, shocked and didn’t want to cause trouble. I’d like to think that if there had been another person there, they would have helped me to report it, and in turn, I as an adult would now report it if I saw something life this.

For those going on about people having kids to feed and losing their job, I’m not really sure it’s a great environment for kids to grow up in with a parent like this. If you’re going to make comments that could get you sacked, you are hardly a responsible parent and your child deserves better.

For those going on about people having kids to feed and losing their job, I’m not really sure it’s a great environment for kids to grow up in with a parent like this. If you’re going to make comments that could get you sacked, you are hardly a responsible parent and your child deserves better so what we should take all kids of racists into care?

Yes I would in this case. It was very extreme and will no doubt result in his sacking, once they're sure he can't wriggle out if it.

It's hard to say for every eventuality. I see a lot more sexism posted than racism on public sites. That seems to be acceptable. But then I don't follow football topics, maybe racism is rife in those sort of subjects.

@VerticalHorizon

Is it always?
If we positively discriminate, this isn't borne of hate, but it's racism still.

Of course, in the context of nasty social media posts, it's another matter, but I am not sure all forms of racism are matters of hate.

Of course racism is always hate.

Positive discrimination and racism are totally different concepts.

You think discriminating positively is racist?

@VerticalHorizon

Racism is a hate crime

Is it always?
If we positively discriminate, this isn't borne of hate, but it's racism still.

Of course, in the context of nasty social media posts, it's another matter, but I am not sure all forms of racism are matters of hate.

The word racism itself has never had any positive connotations. You can't be serious. 🙄

Give us examples of when someone has been racist in a positive or loving light..

I worked in property for a while, it's like living & working in the 1950s. Never progressed due to spectacular sexist attitudes, so this doesn't surprise me in the least. One of the last bastions of your face needing to both fit & be related to someone with connection to the profession.

Also, the company would want to know if someone was bringing them unto disrepute like that. There's all the other employees to consider too. Why should they have their reputations tarnished!

Yes, it's wrong and there needs to be consequences

People lose lives because of racism.
To lose a job is nothing in comparison.

I am utterly against trial by social media, vigilantism.

@VerticalHorizon

Racism is a hate crime

Is it always?
If we positively discriminate, this isn't borne of hate, but it's racism still.

Of course, in the context of nasty social media posts, it's another matter, but I am not sure all forms of racism are matters of hate.

You sound like a really nice, thoughtful person Vertical but what you’re saying is obfuscating the matter. No one here is saying that positive discrimination is bad - inclusion and equality policies are a direct result of society recognising that racism has a negative impact on career and financial opportunities. Inclusion isn’t racism.

Lots of people are saying that calling a black man a n* on social media, with your employers name directly linked, will and should have repercussions.

There are posts on Snapchat right now saying that na lost is the euros and then a point system - like 1 point for spitting at a n, 10 points for raping one. I fully believe that these people should be reported, to the social media platforms, the police and their employers.

Give us examples of when someone has been racist in a positive or loving light..

"Black people do gospel so well!"

It's racist, but without malice. It's meant to be a compliment, but it's racist all the same.

This is the thing about racism. It's not all about abject hatred. This is every day racism that seeps into society and often goes under the radar, because there isn't ill-will behind it. It does however, perpetuate stereotyping and myth.

I am utterly against trial by social media, vigilantism.

What about abuse by social media?
WELP. If you use social media to abuse others, you should be ready for it to bite back.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 😏

There was also that report the other week about white working class boys being left behind and disadvantaged, at an appalling rate, because theres been so much focus on minorities.

@VerticalHorizon

This is the thing about racism. It's not all about abject hatred. This is every day racism that seeps into society and often goes under the radar, because there isn't ill-will behind it. It does however, perpetuate stereotyping and myth.

…which makes it all the more important to call it out when it’s overt.

@3Britnee

There was also that report the other week about white working class boys being left behind and disadvantaged, at an appalling rate, because theres been so much focus on minorities.

It didn’t take long for the ‘what about the white boys’ brigade to come out!

I am utterly against trial by social media, vigilantism

Live by the sword, die by the sword

@HauteGirlSummer

I am utterly against trial by social media, vigilantism.

What about abuse by social media?
WELP. If you use social media to abuse others, you should be ready for it to bite back.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 😏

I'd totally against abuse in any form.

As for 'be ready to bite back' - I disagree on that. Two wrongs do not make a right, and you reduce yourself to the level of the racists.

They SHOULD be called out, by reporting it, not by engaging with morons who thrive on the notoriety. You feed their craving IMO.

People who post overtly racist comments want them to be seen. They want them to have impact. They should be reported and for my money, jailed, but done so by a court of law, not by a howling mob.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

For those going on about people having kids to feed and losing their job, I’m not really sure it’s a great environment for kids to grow up in with a parent like this. If you’re going to make comments that could get you sacked, you are hardly a responsible parent and your child deserves better so what we should take all kids of racists into care?

Tbh yes. If that’s how you behave you shouldn’t be in charge of kids.

@3Britnee

There was also that report the other week about white working class boys being left behind and disadvantaged, at an appalling rate, because theres been so much focus on minorities.

And I'm sure there was LOTS and lots of evidence in this report of these 'minorities' doing so fantastically well at the disadvantage of working class white boys. We've finally dismantled the proverbial patriarchy. Good to know. 😒

Live by the sword, die by the sword

It's a very dangerous thing to do.

Want to get someone sacked? create a twitter profile in their name and post racist or sexist remarks... and let vigilantes do the rest.

Now, absolutely true perpetrators should be punished, but it's important that it's done the right way. Investigated properly and punished properly.
It is so dangerous to go down the vigilante route.

@3Britnee

There was also that report the other week about white working class boys being left behind and disadvantaged, at an appalling rate, because theres been so much focus on minorities.

Yes there was - but there is a significant distinction:

White boys being disadvantaged was an unforeseen consequence of focussing elsewhere.
Racism is much more of a deliberate discrimination in many cases.

The unforeseen consequence can be remedied (perhaps not for those already affected) because everybody wants to tackle that issue.
The intentional discrimination is much harder to tackle, because some folks don't want to tackle it and some of it is ingrained in personal racism.