Omg Christian Ericsson. Collapsed. CPR.

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I’m sobbing. Totnum player. Superstar. live on the euros. Finland v Denmark

MissLucyEyelesbarrow

That's reassuring to read

Sadly I don’t think he’ll ever be playing again.
Fabrice Muamba was advised to retire and he was 5 years younger than Erikson.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

Sorry to say it but they need to find the reason it happened else its likely to happen again if it was a Cardiac Arrest. Unfortunately the stats for these are horrific

Not really (I'm an A&E doctor and GP). I'm not going to speculate on the underlying cause, but there is a good chance in someone of this age group that the problem is one that can be cured. Failing that, an implantable defibrillator can protect him in the event of further episodes.

But some people are idiopathic and no cause is found. And yes an ICD can help save someone if it happens again but they are not 100%. We was told by the specialists that the 2nd at 18 months was a long time to go between the 2 events and cause still not found

I've already said I'm not going to speculate on the underlying cause, @PurpleMustang. It's in bad taste. I would point, however, to Fabrice Muamba who had 78 minutes from cardiac arrest to return of circulation, yet is fine. It is almost unheard of to survive a cardiac arrest of that duration (except if hypothermic). Young, fit people often do very well in circumstances when the average patient doesn't. And athletes who have cardiac arrests typically have a good prognosis, provided they survive the initial arrest.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

I've already said I'm not going to speculate on the underlying cause, *@PurpleMustang*. It's in bad taste. I would point, however, to Fabrice Muamba who had 78 minutes from cardiac arrest to return of circulation, yet is fine. It is almost unheard of to survive a cardiac arrest of that duration (except if hypothermic). Young, fit people often do very well in circumstances when the average patient doesn't. And athletes who have cardiac arrests typically have a good prognosis, provided they survive the initial arrest.

I wasn't speculating either just stating fact that it may not be a one off and a cause needs to be found. And yes 78 is definitely exception to the rule. And although on the outside he does seem fine, due to the lack of oxygen many suffer long term affects of things like memory issues/energy levels. Some things improve with time and some don't. It's a long recovery and have to deal with their new normal.

Fabrice Muamba was extremely lucky that there was a local cardiologist in the stands who perform treatment and persuaded the ambulance to go to a different hospital that had the life saving treatment he needed. Had they gone to the closest hospital, as planned, it is thought he would not had survived.

15 defib shocks and no heartbeat for 78 minutes, then going on to live a normal life, is almost unheard of.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

The majority of sports related cardiac arrests in young people are not caused by curable conditions! Inherited heart conditions are the leading cause of collapses in these circumstances and they require lifelong specialist care and management.

[quote plowlom]@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

The majority of sports related cardiac arrests in young people are not caused by curable conditions! Inherited heart conditions are the leading cause of collapses in these circumstances and they require lifelong specialist care and management. [/quote]
Some inherited heart conditions are curable though, they may have lingering effects but many can be fixed surgically.

It's human nature to want to discuss something like this with others - it helps to process it and it was happening as we were watching the match. I am wondering whether the continued filming at the stadium was to document what was happening. There will be a protocol. It's unfortunate that the live feed continued to be broadcast though the BBC did cut away to the studio before Eriksen was stretchered off.

I wish him a good recovery.

@Quirrelsotherface

Gosh what a strange, strange thread. Mixture of football, tragedy and yes, some voyeurism. It's why traffic slows every time there's a road accident and then suddenly speeds up again as soon as the site is passed. The thread should be wound up now, wishing the poor lad a speedy and full recovery.

Are you a mod? Stop policing the thread!

I watched through the whole thing with my hands on my heads, very shocked and willing him to pull through. I was in disbelief really. Just so glad he looks like he will pull through.
It is worrying because you look at someone like Eriksen and he seems like such a fit and healthy lad. I play football competitively and I worry about things like this. (And dementia). But I guess these things can happen anywhere.

It reminded me of when Marc Vivian Foe collapsed and died whilst playing for Cameroon

I sadly know three people who died from heart attacks as young adults, and another two who survived and are now both back playing sport — one had successful surgery, the other with medication.

In every case, they or their families have raised awareness of, and money for this charity.

[quote plowlom]@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

The majority of sports related cardiac arrests in young people are not caused by curable conditions! Inherited heart conditions are the leading cause of collapses in these circumstances and they require lifelong specialist care and management. [/quote]
It depends what you mean by curable, doesn't it? 'Treatable' would probably have been a better term but I was deliberately being vague because I don't want to get into speculation about the underlying cause.

If you look at 5 year survival for athletes who have had cardiac arrests, it is several orders of magnitude greater than for pretty much any other group, other than people who arrest during cardiac procedures.

I posted this on the the football thread but I'll put here as well as it might catch the attention of a few others:

www.c-r-y.org.uk/

"Every week in the UK at least 12 young people die of undiagnosed heart conditions. Since its formation in 1995, Cardiac Risk in the Young (CRY) has been working to reduce the frequency of young sudden cardiac death (YSCD). CRY supports young people diagnosed with potentially life-threatening cardiac conditions and offers bereavement support to families affected by YSCD. CRY promotes and develops heart screening programmes and funds medical research. CRY publishes and distributes medical information written by leading cardiologists for the general public. CRY funds specialist referral, screening and cardiac pathology services at leading UK hospitals."

There was an excellent BBC documentary recently called "My Sister's Silent Killer" which is worth watching if it is still available.

If you have young people, particularly if they are involved in sport, please look to get them screened. Tragically my local football team, Tonbridge Angels, have been directly affected by this more than once in recent years so it is a cause very close to our hearts in this neck of the woods.

Thank you for posting this

How do you go about getting them screened?

Is this specifically a male problem

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Thank you for posting this

How do you go about getting them screened?

Is this specifically a male problem

I think if you go on to the website it will tell you for your local area. Near me a Defibrillator charity raises money each year to screen kids that want to be done. Have a feeling they have to be 14 or over but do check. My son has his through hospital consultants and other tests as was younger when his Dad had his 1st Cardiac Arrest

And no not specifically male. Happens to women aswell

They used to run screening events around the country and you just book yourself onto a local one. Don’t know if that’s changed to covid. I think they have an e-mail to register interest if they are fully booked. They’ll then let you know next time they are in your area.

They’ll screen people between the ages of 14 and 35.